Why Are Stoners Typically Depicted as Stupid?

darkknight9

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TheBaron87 said:
It's all about perspective. If you're an idiot, the people around you will seem smart. If you're smart, the people around you seem like idiots.

You're 16 years old and have nearly twenty thousand posts on a single forum... somehow it doesn't surprise me that you would be confused about this.
That may be the single best thing I've seen in print in many months. A tip o the hat to you TheBaron87.
 

CarbonEagle

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Spinozaad said:
Because stupid, infantile shit is suddenly funny when you're stoned. The most retarded of animated shows, Family Guy, is suddenly hi-fucking-larious when you're stoned. So, yeah. Them stoner movies capitalize on that.

And yes, when you have the munchies, you will do almost anything for some good food.

But when you're stoned, you're not stupid. It's just that your current state inhibits you from fulfilling your intellectual potential.
And if your always in your basement baked out of your mind, your un-stoned intelligence is completely worthless. You might as well be stupid, hence the stereotype.
 

MrJohnson

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More Fun To Compute said:
It's probably anecdotal based on the way that some people who have been smoking heavily for years talk. Maybe a cultural thing based on Cheech and Chong.

I don't really trust people saying that it doesn't affect the brain though. How many people had to smoke cigarettes for how long before it could be officially declared that smoking causes cancer? And you can be sure that people thought that it did based on anecdotal evidence and "correlation is not causation" statistics.
Because there is at least a hundred years of tests and studies that say otherwise. The only reason people didn't know smoking was harmful for so long is that the cigarette companies purposely misled people, while with marijuana it's just scientists observing what people that smoke it frequently, with no one paying them millions of dollars to make it biased and change the results.

Of course, other drugs can make you stupid. And the first slurs against marijuana in ads and commercials as far back as silent movies were that they made you stupid and do stupid things. Also that they made you impulsive. Pretty much they combined other drug symptoms (coke, heroin), and said they were caused by marijuana. And then add in things like murder and being a slut.
 

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Swollen Goat said:
WilliamRLBaker said:
Because a stoner is someone that is constantly high and under pot..you are stupid it is a simple fact that it slows your wits, and reaction times. and I dislike when people post hey this person got A's and B's and stuff...were they constantly stoned? even at school? I doubt it.
Actually, I was completely stoned all through college. And got A's and B's. In a medical field. So....yeah. Quit after school for obvious reasons. In my experience around stoners, I did find most of them to be fucking retarded. I don't think the intelligence spectrum is much different than that of the drug free world though.
I dont believe you. sorry but seeing people that are stoned constantly and their attitudes which is most often hey its okay to sit here and do nothing all day, I doubt you were stoned completely through college and still graduated.

Im fine if you wanna admit you smoked pot, but I just dont believe you if you say you got A's and B's in the medical field while being stoned 24/7.
 

Blatherscythe

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Probably because hard drug use can cause brain damage and using drugs kills brain cells. But your right, they want to make drugs as unappealing as possible because they can do some serious damage to you.
 

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Because there is at least a hundred years of tests and studies that say otherwise. The only reason people didn't know smoking was harmful for so long is that the cigarette companies purposely misled people, while with marijuana it's just scientists observing what people that smoke it frequently, with no one paying them millions of dollars to make it biased and change the results.
I'm as sceptical of some stoner appearing on TV saying that weed is safer than moderate drinking as I am of a tobacco industry spokesman. It has been associated with memory problems, psychosis and lung damage in people. Maybe alcoholics have more problems and many people smoking the occasional joint don't have any problems worth mentioning but a white wash is still a white wash no matter what it applies to.
 

MrJohnson

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More Fun To Compute said:
MrJohnson said:
Because there is at least a hundred years of tests and studies that say otherwise. The only reason people didn't know smoking was harmful for so long is that the cigarette companies purposely misled people, while with marijuana it's just scientists observing what people that smoke it frequently, with no one paying them millions of dollars to make it biased and change the results.
I'm as sceptical of some stoner appearing on TV saying that weed is safer than moderate drinking as I am of a tobacco industry spokesman. It has been associated with memory problems, psychosis and lung damage in people. Maybe alcoholics have more problems and many people smoking the occasional joint don't have any problems worth mentioning but a white wash is still a white wash no matter what it applies to.
*ahem*

Most recent studies on mostly middle-aged people have shown no more significant damage to the brain that can usually be blamed to the brain atrophying over time. I know lung damage is undeniable, but I still maintain that the same level of damage to your lungs can occur from simply being around smoke often.

A lot of the early studies done on marijuana were done on animals, and the results were messed with. In one study specifically, they tested on monkeys. While testing on monkeys, frequently the monkeys would pass out since they would force gas masks on the monkeys for several minutes at a time, so the damage to the brain was due to lack of oxygen rather that the marijuana.

However, younger people smoking a lot of weed can develop brain damage. But by the same toll, so is excessive exercise, too much time studying, too much time working, and too much time doing a lot of things when you're younger since you're body is still developing and can be easily damaged by over exerting yourself, which happens often in today's society with school and sports not allowing children to get enough sleep.

Marijuana has been looked into to actually limit brain damage sustained by injuries. It causes cancerous cells in the brain to kill themselves too. Plus, it's nature's best painkiller.

THC is used to block brain damage, as it is thought that a few of the enzymes found in marijuana prevents the build up of calcium which occurs after head and brain damage, and blocking the protein plaque build-up in the brain causing Alzheimer's.

People who smoke cigarettes and weed? Well, they have an almost 300% increased chance of lung cancer.

Marijuana does not increase lung cancer or damage by itself. Hell's Bell's, researchers at Harvard said that the same things in THC that prevent brain cancers and tumors from developing do the same thing in the lungs, where it kills cells before they turn malignant.

In my opinion, the white wash is about the beneficial effects of marijuana. Marijuana has been used as a scapegoat since the beginning of anti-drug legislation in the 30's, and was more easily seen as evil just because of the immigrants using it, and helping throw off the attention of the fact they had also made cocaine and heroin illegal, two drugs that many people thought were beneficial back then.
 

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Perhaps because of films like Half Baked and How High? where stoners are depicted as being stupid?
Or because people who haven't dealt with pot much look at it as an illegal substance which makes you dumb?

But i've smoked it for a few years now, and i've met people on both ends of the spectrum, and in all honesty I now believe its not even about regulation, I think its more to do with the person who smokes it.

Some people smoke it, (no matter how frequently) and don't experience any lack of motivation, or addiction in the slightest. however some may have it a few times, want it more and more, and give up with everything because they 'wanna get baked'
See I can have a joint during my break at work, feel a bit baked, and get back to it, and I smoked all through school, and still got relatively good results.

Ah its hard to explain, but yeah I would say its down to the person.
And in the words of Bill Hicks "Making marijuana against the law is like saying God did something wrong"
 

meticadpa

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Eh... some are.

But then again, I'm regarded as a "stoner" by most of the people in my entire year, yet I achieved the best exam results in my year for maths, physics, chemistry, English and history.

Of course there are stupid stoners. You can't go anywhere without meeting someone stupid.

Saying that someone is stupid because they smoke weed or whatever is ridiculous though. Consuming a drug does not make you stupid.