Why are The Witcher 2 fans so defensive?

[Smooth Operator]

I find it quite funny people calling it a PC exclusive when it feels very much like a shoddy console port.

- QTE + button mash on every corner
- completely random control setup
- no tool tips
- no control screen
- no controls binding screen
- tutorial thrown in during high action scenes
- retarded item menu
- ...

Honestly who ever was working on the UI has never seen a PC RPG in their lifetime.

 

[icame]

This is simply how fanboys operate. If you don't like their favorite thing accusations of being biased and a shitty reviewer get thrown around. Just so happens that the ones for the witcher 2 are a bit extreme.

 

[Zeriu]

Well, you see, this is a AAA PC *only* game, so PC gamers have to defend it, because AAA games just aren't coming around as often as they used to.

Or at least thats their train of thought. I like the game, its not the second coming of PC gaming, but its good so... yeah.

Coming soon to an XBox360 near you.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Em hard core fanboys(and girls) of everything are quite defensive. There are normal fanpeople even though fanperson is usually used in a derogatory sense.

 

[Snowalker]

Well, you see, this is a AAA PC *only* game, so PC gamers have to defend it, because AAA games just aren't coming around as often as they used to.

Or at least thats their train of thought. I like the game, its not the second coming of PC gaming, but its good so... yeah.

Coming soon to an XBox360 near you.

And a ninja is behind you...

 

[thenamelessloser]

Well, you see, this is a AAA PC *only* game, so PC gamers have to defend it, because AAA games just aren't coming around as often as they used to.

Or at least thats their train of thought. I like the game, its not the second coming of PC gaming, but its good so... yeah.

Coming soon to an XBox360 near you.

Yeah, that's another thing, a patch to help make the prologue easier and an officially announced port were both announced before the review was online. Someone being paid to make a video game funny review, shouldn't they be criticized for being too lazy to use wikipedia or google?

 

[Zhukov]

I have this nasty little suspicion that it stems from the game being PC exclusive.

...

That is, until the 360 version comes out.

 

[Woodsey]

I will point out that Greg's review was not particularly great, regardless of the opinion in it. In 3 pages he didn't even mention that the game has 2 entirely different separate acts, let alone the amount of choice you have within the story. I don't think he even touched upon the writing apart from to comment on the (admittedly weird) LotR reference.

As for ZP, its ZP. The only thing that irked me a little was there were a couple of inaccuracies (cutscenes are skippable).

People defend it because they really like it, and because it doesn't treat you like a moron. Which is really something these days.

 

[LordRoyal]

The Silver Sword/Steel Sword thing was pointless. It wasn't like there was ever a question as to which would be effective in a given situation. Humans & Humanlikes - Steel, Monsters - Silver. It didn't add tactical depth, it was just annoying.

It was lore from the novels. In the novels monsters are damaged properly with silver and humans with steel.

 

[synobal]

Well the ZP review was inaccurate and whiny. Mostly though I defend it because I think it's a genuinely good game and doesn't suffer from most the afflictions that are coming to the RPG genre lately. Just take a look at DA2 to see what I mean.

 

[Mr. Omega]

It's simple math.

PC Elitism + Console (or in this case, PC) Exclusivity Defensiveness + RPG Snobbery + "Hardcore!" Mentality + Old-School-Game Fanboyism + Just plain being a Fanboy + Anonymousness of the Internet = The single most butthurt, whiny, "YOUR OPINION IS WRONG"-claiming, raging, angry fanoboys in the history of angry fanboys.

 

[synobal]

The Silver Sword/Steel Sword thing was pointless. It wasn't like there was ever a question as to which would be effective in a given situation. Humans & Humanlikes - Steel, Monsters - Silver. It didn't add tactical depth, it was just annoying.

It was lore from the novels. In the novels monsters are damaged properly with silver and humans with steel.

Not to mention silver is a pretty soft metal and you wouldn't want to hit another sword with it. Sure it might survive being able to magically cleave through monster flesh that's softer than the silver but it's gonna be pretty messed up if you start banging it on armor and other swords. I honestly don't see how people miss that nor why it's a big deal, it takes 1 button press to change weapons.

 

[LordRoyal]

I think the better question is: "Why are gamers so defensive?" I've noticed that most gamers are extremely annoying and whine about pretty much everything they can think of when it comes to something they hate, then go into ultimate rage when someone doesn't like what they like. For a sect that wants to be taken seriously, it is rather hilarious how childish and retarded they can be.

ZP said it best where he said we should remove the word "Gamer" out of the equation and not think of it as a group. Because group mentalities always lead to prejudgements on their actions.

 

[PrinceOfShapeir]

Because it was pointless. It's confusing complexity with depth.

 

[Nautical Honors Society]

Because to many the success of the Witcher 2 is representative of the success of PC gaming as a whole.

 

[Madman123456]

I'm a PC gamer and i do not like the witcher all that much. Needlessly complicated. One could argue that this is a game that wont hold my hand all the time and i appreciate the effort to make a game like that; the combat system is odd to say the least and the Story is almost as bad as the one in oblivion. The sex thing makes the game look immature.


Why are the fans of these games more defensive then Oblivion fans for example (like me) who will admit that the main story sucked balls and the characters where unnerving when they looked at you with their cold, dead eyes?

Maybe they fear this will be the last game of its kind, with "lovable weaknesses" that take you back to the old days of PC gaming you look back upon with rose colored glasses. The games where you spent hours figuring out riddles and then feel a sense of superiority when you beat it.
When you had to draw maps yourself and figure out how to beat that boss that killed you for the fifth time.


If games like that will be the future of PC exclusives, i'll go play some more Oblivion. Or "Spellcaster" or "Phantasy Star", which i beat without drawing maps. Pussies.

 

[Lizmichi]

The Silver Sword/Steel Sword thing was pointless. It wasn't like there was ever a question as to which would be effective in a given situation. Humans & Humanlikes - Steel, Monsters - Silver. It didn't add tactical depth, it was just annoying.

It was lore from the novels. In the novels monsters are damaged properly with silver and humans with steel.

Yea but how many have read the books? The context is gone from the game if you haven't read the books. It wasn't like that in the first game so why add it now? What works with books might not work with a game.

 

[Zeriu]

This is simply how fanboys operate. If you don't like their favorite thing accusations of being biased and a shitty reviewer get thrown around. Just so happens that the ones for the witcher 2 are a bit extreme.

I acknowledge the existence of fanboys, but yahtzee really did a shoddy job. It is quite evident in the "unskipable" cutscene blunder. He didn't give this game a fair chance. If he did he would have tried to see if it was indeed unskipable and press any button. The game would have immediately said "right-click to skip". Conversely I agreed with him about the potions menu, mutagens and inventory screen. The fact that we have to see Geralt drink the potion and throw away the bottle is silly. It is of course a flaw. I really don't care to see Geralt wiping the sweat off his forehead after he finishes chugging a potion.

 

[Imbechile]

Why are The Witcher 2 fans so defensive?

So that people could make these kind of threads HURHUR DUR....(obvious yoke)
But yokes aside, ALL fans do this. Did you watch ZP's mailbag showdown episode? Many people just can't stand it if someone dislikes their favorite game. Fans are probably angry on Yatzee because he quit early on. As for Greg Tito, well..... What to say about someone who gave Dragon age 2 a perfect score.

 

[synobal]

The Silver Sword/Steel Sword thing was pointless. It wasn't like there was ever a question as to which would be effective in a given situation. Humans & Humanlikes - Steel, Monsters - Silver. It didn't add tactical depth, it was just annoying.

It was lore from the novels. In the novels monsters are damaged properly with silver and humans with steel.

Yea but how many have read the books? The context is gone from the game if you haven't read the books. It wasn't like that in the first game so why add it now? What works with books might not work with a game.

Actually it was exactly like that in the first game.