Why Bronies (and Pretty Much Everyone) Should Hate the Brony Documentary

[Dangit2019]

Oh right because making jokes like princess molestia is like terrorism, because sex in any form is bad and anything that's just innuendo is even worse.

Because that's all Princess Molestia really is, innuendo.

4chan pony threads were just people making up disgusting shit to disturb others, just like /b/ that spawned /mlp/.

Equestria after dark is harmless rule 34, that all fandoms have.

And everything else like death threats is so common you might as well say "this documentary says water is wet."

I'm not comparing bronies to terrorists, because I am one, and I would be putting myself in the same crossfire. I used that to convey that negative things aren't changed by other groups doing negative things.

Also, yes, sexualization of animal characters on a cartoon show is not particularly positive imo. Neither is making up disturbing shit. Nor is "harmless" rule 34 (even if all the cool fandoms are doing it). And death threats aren't made any less impacting by being common.

 

[Dangit2019]

So basically we are holding bronies to a standard above other fandoms?

I assumed we wanted to be at a higher standard. I assumed we wanted to be taken seriously. Apparently not.

Because they can't have sex jokes, they can't do rule 34, and they can't have fun?

If the fandom needs pony porn to have fun, then I'm not sure I can relate to the same plane of reality as them.

So now we have to single out an entire group of people for something common and everyone does?

I swear to God, you're like one of those kids in smoking PSA's trying to convince little Billy to take a cigarette.

"Come on, man, everyone's doing it!"

My point is that sex jokes, innuendo, and sex in general isn't bad. We shouldn't keep trying to stamp it out because its impossible, and no objective reason for hiding it really exists beyond cultural demands, which are subjective.

Alas, it's true. Culture deems that fucking animals is negative to society, and sexual attraction to animals, real or cartoon, isn't a very good practice. But that's subjective, so who gives a shit, amirite?

 

[Dangit2019]

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In the words of the prophet Egoraptor:

"You've got to look inside of yourself, and say 'what am I willing to put up with today?' Not. Fucking. This."

Indeed. You aren't willing to change your mind, and I'm certainly not willing to change mine.

Feel free to quote me and try to keep this pointless argument going, just know it will be ignored.

 

[Dangit2019]

On second thought, I should probably watch Season 3 before I get into the documentary. It's almost the finale, isn't it?

The ending premiered yesterday. I liked it, some didn't.

Also, the OP didn't mention rule 34. It mentioned sexualiztion on a general level. I have no idea why people keep acting like I mentioned it specifically.

 

[Neverhoodian]

I haven't seen the documentary, so I can't really comment on the points brought up by the OP. However, I've read enough comments on EQD and other sites to know that opinions are mixed about the whole thing.

I probably won't get around to watching it, on account that it's really not geared towards a moderate fan like myself. While I consider myself a brony, I don't really pay all that much attention to the fandom at large. I check out some of the fan art and animations once in a blue moon and I've made a few dumb little Youtube videos myself (they're not much to look at), but that's pretty much the entirety of my involvement in the brony community. I have no desire to immerse myself any more than that. Enjoying the show itself on its own merits is good enough for me.

Having said that, at least the documentary produced one gem of scintillating awesomeness:

 

[Frezzato]

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I guess this is as good a place as any to link to a short interview with actor Tara Strong, the voice of Twilight Sparkle. Just came out a few days ago:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/02/15/tara-strong-my-little-pony-twilight-sparkle-friendship-is-magic_n_2697884.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

Hint: She's got nothing but good things to say about her Bronies. I'm not one of them. Not sure why I feel compelled to say that, other than the fact that, while I don't watch the show (and therefore can't commiserate in your predicament), I can respect fandom.

 

[likalaruku]

Sounds like another disappointing documentary that skips over a ton of shit & doesn't like to address the elephant in the room, just like the one about Mojang.

Leaving out the deviant sexualization is like interviewing Jhonene Vasquez about Invader Zim & editing out his responce to "Zadr" or any parings because it would piss off some fangirls. It would be like interviewing Pendleton Ward about Adventure Time & ignoring that all potential pairings revolve around peadophilia & interspecies relationships.

There will always be a large quantity of sicko fans, & some bronies need to realize it;s My G-Rated Ponies: Friendzone is Magic.

 

[Epic Bear Man]

I love how some people got so defensive about this. Anyways, I'm not a brony nor have I even heard of this documentary, but I do agree with you on the fact that documentaries need to show both sides. Documentaries are more than likely going to be biased in some way, but they still need to show both sides of the equation. That said, I think it might also be difficult to pinpoint the "dark side" of the MLP fandom. However I don't know if rule 34 should be applicable in this case as a dark side.

That said, in the future, fans should not be doing documentaries. Not unless they've had previous knowledge. The likelyhood of the bias being one-sided is far more increased, and makes it harder for someone to get good viewpoints and to decide their own subjective opinion on the matter.

 

[Pinkamena]

I actually backed it when I first heard of the kickstarter, but I haven't watched it yet.

 

[Broderick]

I love how some people got so defensive about this. Anyways, I'm not a brony nor have I even heard of this documentary, but I do agree with you on the fact that documentaries need to show both sides. Documentaries are more than likely going to be biased in some way, but they still need to show both sides of the equation. That said, I think it might also be difficult to pinpoint the "dark side" of the MLP fandom. However I don't know if rule 34 should be applicable in this case as a dark side.

That said, in the future, fans should not be doing documentaries. Not unless they've had previous knowledge. The likelyhood of the bias being one-sided is far more increased, and makes it harder for someone to get good viewpoints and to decide their own subjective opinion on the matter.

The problem with the "Dark side" of the brony fandom is pinpointing what the "dark side" actually is as you said. Rule 34? Every fandom has that, and sexuality is not an inherently bad thing. You may say that is bad when applied to a children's tv show, but I think that is up for debate, and really depends on the characters in question (would pinkie or twilight be more "acceptable" to sexualize than say one of the children of the show?). I think the over reactions of fans and much of the drama is closer to a "dark side" than cartoon pony genitalia. I mean hell, the derpygate fiasco and the much more recent

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Twilicorn

controversy speaks much more about the community. Also the various in fights with musicians and other "prominent" members of the mlp fandom would have been better to address. Like say... Yelling At Cats' song about derpy, where he specifically names and verbally berates a member of the fandom, which many believe to be part of the reason why derpy's voice was changed in later versions of a specific episode.

I have not seen the documentary, even though I myself was a backer of it. Many of the musicians and artists of the mlp fandom see the documentary as a huge circle jerk, and was disappointed in it. As for me? I will watch it when the time comes and pass judgement then.

 

[Epic Bear Man]

The problem with the "Dark side" of the brony fandom is pinpointing what the "dark side" actually is as you said. Rule 34? Every fandom has that, and sexuality is not an inherently bad thing. You may say that is bad when applied to a children's tv show, but I think that is up for debate, and really depends on the characters in question (would pinkie or twilight be more "acceptable" to sexualize than say one of the children of the show?). I think the over reactions of fans and much of the drama is closer to a "dark side" than cartoon pony genitalia. I mean hell, the derpygate fiasco and the much more recent

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Twilicorn

controversy speaks much more about the community. Also the various in fights with musicians and other "prominent" members of the mlp fandom would have been better to address. Like say... Yelling At Cats' song about derpy, where he specifically names and verbally berates a member of the fandom, which many believe to be part of the reason why derpy's voice was changed in later versions of a specific episode.

I have not seen the documentary, even though I myself was a backer of it. Many of the musicians and artists of the mlp fandom see the documentary as a huge circle jerk, and was disappointed in it. As for me? I will watch it when the time comes and pass judgement then.

That would be why I said I do not know if rule 34 should be applicable in this case. However, there still should've been some sort of negative aspect of it. Go talk to some people who find the love (or as the people who dislike bronies would say, "obsession") with the show to be unusual, bizarre, etc.

The point of documentaries is to educate people. In the type of documentary this brony one sounds to be, it sounds like it's the type of documentary intended to turn someone with a negative opinion of the culture so they can see it's just as normal and human as any other type of entertainment. But the way the OP made it out to be, it sounds as if all they're doing is putting out the positive elements. Putting in negative ones, no matter how minor, will allow the people against MLP fandom to see their opinion, stay drawn in to the documentary, and to watch the rest of it so they get a better understanding of bronies/pegasisters/etc.

The "dark side" of it is up to debate on what it should've been, but the OP's point on including some negative things still stands. However, as I've said, I haven't seen this documentary, so I'm just speculating based off of the OP's initial post.

 

[z121231211]

How are bronies ANY DIFFERENT from ANY other fandom? I fail to see any differences.

Most fandoms don't create a documentary trying to legitimize their interest.

 

[Whitbane]

So they ignored all the controversy and hilarious stuff? Too bad. That would have raised some great butthurt. Almost as bad as /mlp over the last few weeks.

 

[ThisGuyLikesNoTacos]

I really don't see the point in a documentary about bronies. I guess you could mention that bronies aren't necessarily pedophiles, but try to stretch that into an hour long documentary.

How are bronies ANY DIFFERENT from ANY other fandom? I fail to see any differences.

Most fandoms don't create a documentary trying to legitimize their interest.

Which is arrogant, but all fandoms have arrogant people.

 

[xPixelatedx]

So, if you see this movie, don't expect a single mention of any of the following: fighting within the fandom, sexualization of MLP characters in any way shape or form by the Internet, overexposure of MLP memes on non-brony sites, threats from more militant bronies to critics of the show, the "pegasisters" debate/whatever, etc.

This is pretty much going on daily and a huge part of the fandom, and I say this as someone who knows one of the people who ran bronycon. I don't care what the content of the show is, not showing such intricate parts of your fandom to increase positive opinion about it seems disingenuous and shady.

Speaking of MLP and sexualization, anyone remember a thread on here where someone was saying something about the show's artists making the show too sexy? That was a pretty funny thread, (I was laughing) but after telling a friend about it they sent me this...
The file is called: the plot thickens.png

Consider this image my new response to every MLP debate.