Why can't I "hate"?
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I find the same thing. Apparently it's because I'm a console gamer so i don't have any clue about real gaming. Even though I buy about half of my games for PC.
Seriously dude, the people that refuse to accept criticism for a game they like (or vice versa) are not worth arguing with over it, and once you learn to tune it out it's so much nicer.
Seriously dude, the people that refuse to accept criticism for a game they like (or vice versa) are not worth arguing with over it, and once you learn to tune it out it's so much nicer.
I assume that you use the internet for this practice? The reason for it is that on the internet, a lot of trolls exist, and sometimes it is better to destroy something that might resemble trolling than let the trickle begin to wear away at the dam.
The other reason is that people don't like to be opposed, or take criticism, be it negative or consturctive.
The other reason is that people don't like to be opposed, or take criticism, be it negative or consturctive.
Well, I'm not going to say that there aren't people who just flat out dismiss your points, but I can't say that you don't sound like those petulant nostalgia-blinded people who whine about things like 'Sonic has green eyes now and I don't like it!'
I'm not saying that's what you are; what I'm saying is that people who like a new direction are used to constantly fending off these whiners on forums, Youtube or even IRL standing in line at a GameStop. It's not easy to get out of that defensive state of mind and listen to reason when so few are willing to provide it.
Just trying to explain the other side of the issue as someone who is often on that other side.
I'm not saying that's what you are; what I'm saying is that people who like a new direction are used to constantly fending off these whiners on forums, Youtube or even IRL standing in line at a GameStop. It's not easy to get out of that defensive state of mind and listen to reason when so few are willing to provide it.
Just trying to explain the other side of the issue as someone who is often on that other side.
If you can prove that a new direction in a game is bad IE sonic Games. Then your points are very valid and non nostalgic.
BUT vice versa
If you cant give any points as to why the new direction is bad like say "The Metroidvania style is so bad compared to the old games!" Then that is just Nostalgia bursting out and there are plenty of ways to play the original Castlevania games.
BUT vice versa
If you cant give any points as to why the new direction is bad like say "The Metroidvania style is so bad compared to the old games!" Then that is just Nostalgia bursting out and there are plenty of ways to play the original Castlevania games.
Well, because game developers have continued to do better and better jobs, slowly but surely improving the quality of our games. I mean, we've gone from booger splat atari graphics to lego-Cloud FF7 polygons to beautiful lush open ended worlds like Oblivion, Skyrim etc.Trolldor said:
Most of the time it really is nostalgia. That's why.
nos·tal·gia
 
a wistful desire to return in thought or in fact to a former time
For example, a lot of people prefer Morrowind to Oblivion (even Vanilla) but I find the systems of Morrowind really archaic. using a short blade levels my speed stat? (no combat benefits to this what-so-ever) and casting the only damaging spells in the game (destruction) improves your will power (magic resistance) (not your total magic pool, which would allow for the use of better offensive spells) so the only way to get better destruction spells (that you can even cast) is to pick flowers and make potions! or to cast a completely different tree of magic! (summoning)! it truly makes no sense.
I do enjoy Morrowind still, hell I have the disc in my system right now. But I can safely say that Oblivion improved most of the problems of the previous game. Does that make Oblivion perfect? No and yes it did end up also lacking in other areas that Morrowind did well in, but for the most part gameplay was indeed improved and made more fluid, immersive and enjoyable for the majority of players.
i will agree to this.Sober Thal said:
if you come at the game with constructive criticism after playing it and not liking it, then good for you, i'll probably listen and might even agree
if you come at it like most trolls do and people who don't realize how they word shit then your gonna sound "HERP DERP GAME NOOBIFIED DUMB DOWN DERP DERP"
there is a difference, and it's the latter alot of the time that flames on.
I did not fail to answer your question, just perhaps how you wanted me to..
Though I will say this. Um, nothing is stopping you from prefering an older game?
Maybe I'm not understanding what you want. Do you want others to accept the fact that they're wrong for liking more modern games and not living in the past?
Though I will say this. Um, nothing is stopping you from prefering an older game?
Maybe I'm not understanding what you want. Do you want others to accept the fact that they're wrong for liking more modern games and not living in the past?
Oh. I thought this was going to be a thread about someone's inability to buy into bandwagon hate, because they still tend to appreciate games. You know, just for the novelty factor.
I barely see what it is you're complaining about. To quote Todd in the Shadows, I thought "you're not allowed to like anything on the internet."
I barely see what it is you're complaining about. To quote Todd in the Shadows, I thought "you're not allowed to like anything on the internet."
Because kids these days get their nostalgia handed to them.Trolldor said:
When I was a lad taking a stroll down Memory Lane was uphill in the snow, both ways, backward and with no shoes on. We didn't have fancy gadgets to hold our memories for us, we had to rely on our brains that had been damaged by lead paint and parents who drank while we were in utero. And we were happier... because most childrens' medicines contained alcohol and chemical compounds that are now classed as narcotics. That's right, back in my day all the kids were brain damaged and high as kites but no one really worried about it because ADD hadn't been invented then so if we misbehaved we got a beating. As for new games, if we didn't like the direction a game took were modified the code ourselves using ones and zeros we made from old pieces of wood we found and the lids from jam jars. Nostalgia was better in the old days, too. Old people used to tell exciting stories about wars and surviving the depression and how you could own your own farm for 50c if you shot all the native people living on the land. Today? Feh! Old people talk about being hippies or using the word 'gay' to mean 'happy' or how their grandparents never had to contribute to a government mandated retirement fund.
i believe moviebob did a 'the big picture' explaining why; "correctitude" was it?
this is the internet; if you dont compliment your opinions with one that the "other" side will agree with, people WILL NOT take you seriously; you havent agreed with them in your post, so how could it possibly have any merit? doesnt make any sense and perpetuates the endless debates of detailed opinions casually ignored with tl;dr and one sentence retorts addressing nothing that the internet is so famous for.
its all about the status quo i guess; each side must be consistently locked in the same arguments to generate more forum activity, so that even we, the masses of E-sheep that we are, do our best to insure zero progress is made in any given debate.
this is the internet; if you dont compliment your opinions with one that the "other" side will agree with, people WILL NOT take you seriously; you havent agreed with them in your post, so how could it possibly have any merit? doesnt make any sense and perpetuates the endless debates of detailed opinions casually ignored with tl;dr and one sentence retorts addressing nothing that the internet is so famous for.
its all about the status quo i guess; each side must be consistently locked in the same arguments to generate more forum activity, so that even we, the masses of E-sheep that we are, do our best to insure zero progress is made in any given debate.
Someone who offers up legitimate criticism of a game is most accompanied by others who spit venom with their condescension and exaggerated opinions. It makes that one person more unappealing by proxy.
Your name is also "Trolldor". Maybe people just expect you to...troll.
Your name is also "Trolldor". Maybe people just expect you to...troll.
Well some people like things if that changes they they get upset becuase they liked it...I'm not entirely sure why that's a hard concept seems kind of logical.
I dislike sounding so obtuse, but as true as that may be, it's the stupidest justification ever.Risingblade said:
Hates always a strong word. I always find it funny when people (even myself) use that world.
But to be on topic... I dont know, depends who you talk to. though most people might just be taking it as you being stubborn and not wanting to see the innovation that could happen (not saying you are).
But to be on topic... I dont know, depends who you talk to. though most people might just be taking it as you being stubborn and not wanting to see the innovation that could happen (not saying you are).