Why Dishonored 2 doesnot have corvo as sole protagonist?

[B-Cell_v1legacy]

Hello everyone,

So my dear friends, the thing floating to my mind about upcoming video game called Dishonored 2 featuring 2 protagonist. Corvo and princess emily. Corvo was silent in original game but now he is played by stephen russel (aka real man). they could have made corvo as one iconic character like agent 47 is icon of Hitman, snake is icon of MGS, sam fisher is icon of Splinter cell, Garret for thief etc.

Is it to appease gaming feminist extremist to bring a female character as protagonist? who complain about gaming industry invaded by men? or some other reason?

Could you imagine 47 and diana bieng protagonist in Hitman rather than only 47? beacuse if arkane were developing hitman 15 years ago they would make sequel like that. they are even doing this to new Prey too as Morgan can be Male and female.

what do you think? discuss

 

[Gethsemani_v1legacy]

Another thread about them evil feminists taking away things we like? Thank God that some things never change.

Look, you are getting two different perspectives on the same story as well as two different skill sets to play through the game with. How is that anything to complain about?

 

[B-Cell_v1legacy]

Another thread about them evil feminists taking away things we like? Thank God that some things never change.

Look, you are getting two different perspectives on the same story as well as two different skill sets to play through the game with. How is that anything to complain about?

why is not tomb raider has second male playable character?

 

[Gethsemani_v1legacy]

why is not tomb raider has second male playable character?

Apples and oranges much?

But fine, I'll play along. Why is Corvo even in Dishonored 2? The devs have stated that Dishonored 2 will be Emily's story and her struggle to return to power, so why is Corvo even there? Why not leave him as a side character so that we can focus properly on Emily and her story? If I wanted to be facetious, I'd say that Arkane should have had the spine to just keep Corvo out of it and leave Emily as the sole leading character. But they obviously didn't since insecure boys need their power projection dude to feel comfortable playing a game and playing as a woman might be icky or something.

The reason is simple obviously: Because Arkane wanted both characters in there, because Corvo (or rather his mask) is iconic to Dishonored and Dishonored 2 centers on the story of Emily. Instead of just making them reskins of each other, both characters have unique skill sets that cater to different playstyles and supposedly you get different events in the storyline depending on if you play as Emily or Corvo. This is quite literally a situation where variety is good and intended.

 

[Phasmal]

Because it doesn't matter.

Corvo was boring. If you really think a character being male, grizzled and silent makes them iconic, that's between you and your taste. Other people like variety.

Or in other words.
Yes.

Yes. I'm coming for your games. All of them. It is too late to run. It has already begun.

Fear us.

 

[Kingjackl]

Another thread about them evil feminists taking away things we like? Thank God that some things never change.

Look, you are getting two different perspectives on the same story as well as two different skill sets to play through the game with. How is that anything to complain about?

why is not tomb raider has second male playable character?

Ok, know I shouldn't feed the troll, but what the hell: it did. Ever play Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light?

I like that the only possible reason for female/minority representation in entertainment is "appealing to feminists" as if they're the only ones who are happy about it and every good, conservative man and woman is seething about it. From a business level, diversity means wider appeal. From a gameplay level, it's two different sets of mechanics and abilities to play around with. From a story level, there ain't nothing wrong with shifting protagonists between sequels, especially since Corvo wasn't exactly complex or memorable outside his design.

So you know, lot's of good reasons for adding Emily as a protagonist. No reason to complain if you ask me.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

Is it to appease gaming feminist extremist to bring a female character as protagonist? who complain about gaming industry invaded by men?

Yes, this is exactly why. You hit the nail on the head. Congrats. Have a cookie.

Now can we please close this stupid topic before the absurdity of it spills to 100 pages?

 

[Steppin Razor]

I love people whining about the scary feminists come to ruin their hobby by having characters that don't adhere to strict archetypes that match their own limited worldview.

Yes. I'm coming for your games. All of them. It is too late to run. It has already begun.

Fear us.

Not muh male power fantasies! Ruined, everything is rooined!

 

[bastardofmelbourne]

To answer the question: Because it's a good idea, because it makes sense, because it gives you a choice between the two, because their different ability set adds variety and replayability, and because it's pretty freaking cool.

Now stop stirring up shit. This thread is a clear example of shit-stirrerery. Someone come close it.

 

[B-Cell_v1legacy]

Because it doesn't matter.

Corvo was boring. If you really think a character being male, grizzled and silent makes them iconic, that's between you and your taste. Other people like variety.

Or in other words.
Yes.

Yes. I'm coming for your games. All of them. It is too late to run. It has already begun.

Fear us.

I want my games to be badass. you know?

beside corvo is now voiced by one who voiced garrett from thief. it would be so much better to develop corvo as sole protagonist instead of making story about a princess emily.

 

[Phasmal]

I love people whining about the scary feminists come to ruin their hobby by having characters that don't adhere to strict archetypes that match their own limited worldview.

Yes. I'm coming for your games. All of them. It is too late to run. It has already begun.

Fear us.

Not muh male power fantasies! Ruined, everything is rooined!

It is a bizarre thing. It's like pointing out to someone that they could perhaps have something else other than porridge for breakfast and then they immediately start crying and screaming that you're trying to take their porridge away from them.

But as I said, I am one of those evil SJW types who quite likes playing things other than silent angry white dudes, so clearly I'm teh bias.

I want my games to be badass. you know?

beside corvo is now voiced by one who voiced garrett from thief. it would be so much better to develop corvo as sole protagonist instead of making story about a princess emily.

Uh... huh... right.

'Better' is subjective, my friend. And this game isn't being made for you.
There are a lot of people who are happy about the two-protagonist thing.

I'm afraid you're gonna have to suck it up.

 

[Rip Van Rabbit]

Because variety is a good thing. We're receiving different perspectives on the story and a mechanical difference in the gameplay department. Again, variety and choice is a good thing here.

A sequel should use its predecessor as a launchpad for greater tools of innovation. While I can't comment on the gameplay itself due to a lack of information, I find the story of Emily taking back her throne to be a more compelling premise than silent-murder-machine pursuing revenge, at least on Emily's side of things there's some wiggle-room in the writing department to add some nuance to the political world. But that's all speculation on my part.

Honestly, if any criticism had to be levelled at the choice of protagonists, I would have to ask what the fuck is the point of having Corvo around for a sequel? (Outside of brand recognition that is) We've seen his side of the story, we've played through his revenge plot and he has very little to no characterisation that sets him apart from a murderous-first-person-camera. What I'm saying is --- your """iconic""" character is little more than a few informed attributes.

The former-empress Emily Kaldwin, hellbent on taking back her throne is far more compelling narrative hook. Besides, we've had Corvo's actions affect her development in the first Dishonored, it will be interesting to guide her directly now that she's older and more capable.

...oh, I forgot to mention the Shadowy Feminist Illuminati that exist to pry our male protagonist's from our games. Yeeeeaaahh, even bringing that up as a """plausible"""" idea is so ridiculously stupid. If you can't handle some much-needed diversity in gaming, then I feel sorry for those that need their hyper-masculine badass blankies in order to feel secure.

 

[pookie101]

i dont understand the point.. someone is complaining because they have too much choice in a game?

 

[B-Cell_v1legacy]

Considering you can let Emily die, the sequel shouldn't have had her as a main. Besides, a princess becoming a badass assassin to claim her thrown is dumb. I would have preferred an original character over both.

absolutely. emily is princess. its like cinderalla become badass warrior lol

kinda sad stephen russel voicing corvo yet corvo is not focus of the game story. he should have been next Garrett from thief. way to ruined a potentiall.

 

[Zhukov]

Ah dearie me.

I was trying to think of some mockery to pour upon this thread but, really, I don't think there's anything I could say that would make it any more ridiculous.

Oh, hey B-Cell, did you know that whichever character you don't pick dies in the intro? I shall spare a thought for you as I pick Emily and watch boring and generic Corvo die a boring and generic death.

PS. I think it's kind of funny that after ripping off Thief like crazy for the first game they've gone and ripped off the Garret's voice actor for the sequel.

 

[DrownedAmmet]

Corvo was boring. If you really think a character being male, grizzled and silent makes them iconic, that's between you and your taste. Other people like variety.

In Corvo's defense, all the characters from the first game were boring

Considering you can let Emily die, the sequel shouldn't have had her as a main. Besides, a princess becoming a badass assassin to claim her thrown is dumb. I would have preferred an original character over both.

absolutely. emily is princess. its like cinderalla become badass warrior lol

kinda sad stephen russel voicing corvo yet corvo is not focus of the game story. he should have been next Garrett from thief. way to ruined a potentiall.

Since when are princess and badass warrior mutually exclusive? ?
Just think how badass Cinderella would be if she kicked some ass and did it in a ball gown and glass slippers

I found all the characters in the first Dishonored to be boring tbh so it seems like an improvement to me

 

[ErrrorWayz]

Another thread about them evil feminists taking away things we like? Thank God that some things never change.

Look, you are getting two different perspectives on the same story as well as two different skill sets to play through the game with. How is that anything to complain about?

why is not tomb raider has second male playable character?

Ha ha ha ha, that made me laugh more than it should have.

I'm with Gethsemani on this one; while I can't stand the hypocritical bullying and posturing of the "-ism" brigade, if Arkane are adding stuff, without fanfare and "oooh look how open minded we are" tokenism (this bit is important too), then it's hard to complain no?

Oh, hey B-Cell, did you know that whichever character you don't pick dies in the intro?

Really? Damn, I didn't know that.

 

[Phasmal]

Corvo was boring. If you really think a character being male, grizzled and silent makes them iconic, that's between you and your taste. Other people like variety.

In Corvo's defense, all the characters from the first game were boring

Yeah, I can't really argue that. The most interesting 'character' to me was the freaking heart. I pointed that damn thing at everything and everyone just because I liked the weird little things it used to say.

 

[Majestic Manatee_v1legacy]

(aka real man)

My oh my. Much manliness most idolised by immature masculine ideals. A manatee must assume a troll or a bushy tailed child. A hint of a woman is extremist agenda while endless macho porn creates a status quo defender.