Why do current RPGs not have scythes?
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Just sharpening the scythe doesn't solve the problem, nor does getting sturdier wood. Yes a war scythe is somewhat like a halberd, but thats different than a scythe.Wedlock49 said:
Now your just being a smarty......... practicality ,reasonable reasonableness and logical logic(X common world thing to the nth degree) is the antithesis to fiction. Fiction runs on its own set of rules either enjoy what you get or ....remain a smarty...... LOLGeneric Gamer said:
ya. i didnt give my 2 cents there. that is just the required reading to actually have a conversation. not this "if i spin at approx 45deg with 54lbs of force i shall pierce to their soul" and what not. ^_^
hmm didnt for got to quote the guy my response is too. but whatever, he was mistaken in his comment.
hmm didnt for got to quote the guy my response is too. but whatever, he was mistaken in his comment.
Logically the problem with a scythe is its a poorly designed axe, if you overcome the physical limitations with fictional ones it can work as easy as shooting a gun.masseyguy911 said:
well some dude wrote a book about it... idk man if you will reread my post i was giving background info. not explanation. and hand scythes were used as weapons i think. i believe the egyptians used them. not so sure.masseyguy911 said:
and if you will look at the war scythe page it is most certainly a different weapon. like a gun compared to a cannon. they both do the same thing..
I believe the might have... What I do know is that they used a khopesh aka sickle sword. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KopeshEinherion said:
But that was, once again, designed for battle, NOT like a scythe.
ok first off id like to say both sides of this argument have valid points a scythe is not the idel weapon but if forged right it is an effective one. now remmeber the ninjas of japan(not the dam fake black robed guys the real deal)were farmers and pesents they killed with farm equipment all the time. What im getting at here is anything can be used as an effective weapon if:
1) well made and sterdy. as in the blade is made thiker and the wood pole is ether reinforced or flat out replaced by metal.
2)they know how to use it. ok people i need to make this clear even with armor the human body is very fragile. one cut in the right place and your dead in 60 seconds or less.
3)you use it against the right type of armor. scythes would be very effective at going through plate armor do to the fact that you need to get the blade caught on the target.Such as the armpits, groin, and neck were very little armor is.
4)lastly if your not considered a threat useing it. Lets face it if you saw someone with a scythe and you had say a sword you realy wouldnt take them seriously and trust me that can get you killed.
now am i saying it would be the come all end all? No.
could you cut a pompuse knight from groin to chest with one? YES!
1) well made and sterdy. as in the blade is made thiker and the wood pole is ether reinforced or flat out replaced by metal.
2)they know how to use it. ok people i need to make this clear even with armor the human body is very fragile. one cut in the right place and your dead in 60 seconds or less.
3)you use it against the right type of armor. scythes would be very effective at going through plate armor do to the fact that you need to get the blade caught on the target.Such as the armpits, groin, and neck were very little armor is.
4)lastly if your not considered a threat useing it. Lets face it if you saw someone with a scythe and you had say a sword you realy wouldnt take them seriously and trust me that can get you killed.
now am i saying it would be the come all end all? No.
could you cut a pompuse knight from groin to chest with one? YES!
Lol yea why don't they?Einherion said:
The Egyptians built these babies for war and used them all the time, why can't I use one?
This is a scythe.Judgement101 said:
Swords were weapons. Axes were tools and weapons. Spears were hunting tools and weapons. A scythe is a reaping farm tool first, and only. It is an improvised weapon at best.
The Scythe in gaming was a stylized adoption from known users of the scythe, and probably the story of the Reaper of Souls [Death]. Farmers that had to defend their home could use one having nothing else on hand, but if you look at how the farmers in the video were using their tool effectively, it would probably be far more effective to use a wood axe, or a hoe. The Scythe is just damn unwieldy.
So while other weapons in history have a basis as being a tool somewhere in their life, you don't hear stories about sickles and scythes, and probably for good reason. They're sharp, and totally dangerous. A good swing could ruin a limb, and probably kill someone. But no one that wants to live past the night will take one up as a professional weapon. They'd get murdered by the first person using a sword, axe, or polearm.
Stylized scythes do look damn cool though. I will admit.
Stylized weapons tend to be unrealistic at best.....Generic Gamer said:Oh I love fiction but a scythe as a weapon wouldn't be any fun to use because it's a pokey stick. Now a naginata is a katana on a stick, that'd be fun! Or a scythe like Sparda from DMC1, a transforming sword/spear/scythe.ZippyDSMlee said:
Or the gun/scythe.
it's still unrealistic though.
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But so wut they are cool
Because the hitbox really wouldn't work really well. When you think about it, enemies would be able to avoid a scythes hitbox by standing either close to you or just out of your scythes reached. Which means you have to have impeccable timing, especially since scythes are large and thus slow weapons.
Though a nice symbolic weapon, it really isn't very practical.
Though a nice symbolic weapon, it really isn't very practical.
Only Death wields a scythe you fool!
Everyone else has to make do with clubs and swords and things.
Everyone else has to make do with clubs and swords and things.
I do love scythes myself. I never once thoughts of them as a real weapon, knowing they have really no practicality and will forever be nothing more than farming tools; but I think we can all agree that when we started playing games where it is not uncommon to see people swinging swords that turn into bladed whips, whips that burst out into flames, and flames burst forth from the ground in terrifying pillars at the somewhat unenthusiastic swish of a robed man's hand, that realism and practicality aren't really high up on the priorities.
The problem with scythes is that they are always in the hands of the most generic and dreadfully boring characters. I understand that the Grim Reaper is cool and all but seriously, not every single character that picks up a scythe needs to be a gloomy, robed, solemn and/or evil person who casts a veil of darkness in his/her wake.
That aside, I agree we need to see them more as an option, along with many other weapons; and not simply as a different model of weapons you are already using.
The problem with scythes is that they are always in the hands of the most generic and dreadfully boring characters. I understand that the Grim Reaper is cool and all but seriously, not every single character that picks up a scythe needs to be a gloomy, robed, solemn and/or evil person who casts a veil of darkness in his/her wake.
That aside, I agree we need to see them more as an option, along with many other weapons; and not simply as a different model of weapons you are already using.
I love scythes myself, people say they are farming tools and stuff that may be true but they are modded vers for killing people insted of crops, lots of tools for farming and the like are wepons in there own way, Axe? spear/pitchfork? so what if they were farm tools they can kill with the sharp and pointy bits just the same the scythe is just another pollarm but insted of a point or axe head on top it has a blade, so why not use it to kill stuff and look awesome
Most weapons were in fact farm tools, especially Japanese weaponry.
Nunchucks, sais, kamas and other weapons all had double-duty as tools of some sort.
Scythes, although a bit unwieldy, could double as a weapon in the right hands.
Nunchucks, sais, kamas and other weapons all had double-duty as tools of some sort.
Scythes, although a bit unwieldy, could double as a weapon in the right hands.