Why do Jocks get away with it?

[Mechsoap]

Have a concealed switch blade and stap their knees next time they try something, that's sure gonna stop em from being jocks.

On a more serious note: get someone to film as others said and take it to the court, the teachers are morons who still live in the 1980's ''jocks are best'' idea and will see them as the kindest and smartest kids no matter what happens.

 

[emeraldrafael]

Second of all, take up some sort of martial art, it helps relieve stress, anger and it allows you to snap a wrist next time someone starts a fight.

Now if they told him not to do Archery (or suggested it) why would they be cool with him learning Karate, since the common misconception is once you learn it, you turn into Jackie Chan?

Perhaps he should take up the school newspaper and criticizes the unfairness in ever more subtle ways. Who knows, it could become an ongoing joke between him and his friends. You may just end up being good at it.

And let him Print slander of the Football players? I dont think so. He wouldnt be allowed to mention the athletic program unless its reverence of god like behavior.

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

Because there is too much inter-school competition in the USA. If they weren't on the team winning the games then they'd be kicked out just like you. If the USA wants to stop bullying then they need to pull their fingers out their arse and do something about this sort of organisation. Team sports are fun and a little competition is healthy, but it's not worth some poor kid getting bullied.

 

[Robyrt]

OK, let's look at this situation logically:

You've tried responding to bullying by doing nothing. That didn't work, as they keep doing it.

You've tried responding with violence. That didn't work, as the authorities don't take the bullying seriously, which means they threw the book at you for violently overreacting.

The only thing that worked was threatening a lawsuit. The next time anything like this occurs, do that again. You should be able to raise an awful stink for the school administration if you're in a public school - check out this link [http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2010/12/30/395287ndstudentlawsuitsettlement_ap.html] for one of the many bullying lawsuits that established a systematic pattern of school authorities ignoring a problem.

 

[Stabber1010]

And let him Print slander of the Football players? I dont think so. He wouldnt be allowed to mention the athletic program unless its reverence of god like behavior.

Dude, slander is wonderful when you're the only person that gets to laugh about it because it is subtle and done with tact.

I am a terrible person.

 

[Jonluw]

This kind of stuff baffles me. I've never heard about such incidents where I live. The only cases of violence I can remember were cases where the attackers were punished; and they were most certainly not the popular kids. I remember in elementary school, this girl was pushed down a flight of stairs, but this wasn't done by jocks. The people who did these things were the people who huffed spray cans and stuff.

The school system here is different though. By grade 11, all the students have to apply for different schools, so the jocks'll go to jock-schools, and the nerds'll go to schools with high academic standards and nice, tolerant people (where I am now). You have no idea how much nicer people are in this school than they were at the school I went to in grades 8 through 10.

 

[deathbydeath]

hate to rain on your post, but it's probably because you were threatening his life, as opposed to simply beating someone up, but hey, i'm a ginger, so my opinion is probably invalid.

 

[Feralbreed]

That sounds fucked up. Would have never happened in my School, we don't give students priviledges here because they're in a football team.

But then again,bullying happens everywhere. Welcome to the public school system, it's shit most of the time.

 

[Vykrel]

once i got to the part where you choked the quarterback, i thought "this guy's definitely a badass..."

imo, its worth getting suspended, considering that jock was probably scared shitless of you after that.


anyway, jocks get special treatment just about everywhere, only its much worse where you live.

here, jocks get to leave class and go wherever they want, while the rest of us are stuck actually learning things.

 

[deathbydeath]

OK, let's look at this situation logically:

You've tried responding to bullying by doing nothing. That didn't work, as they keep doing it.

You've tried responding with violence. That didn't work, as the authorities don't take the bullying seriously, which means they threw the book at you for violently overreacting.

The only thing that worked was threatening a lawsuit. The next time anything like this occurs, do that again. You should be able to raise an awful stink for the school administration if you're in a public school - check out this link [http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2010/12/30/395287ndstudentlawsuitsettlement_ap.html] for one of the many bullying lawsuits that established a systematic pattern of school authorities ignoring a problem.

no. just no. don't be a pussy, just deal with whatever crap gets thrown your way, but please, no more lawsuits.

EDIT: if you're in need of money, though, disregard the above

 

[Berserker119]

I lol'd. Sounds like something from a cheesy 90's movie.

 

[endnuen]

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So's Archery. I know about Karate and the rules of it. I took a year (it just wasnt for me. I was more meditation in Zen through thought rather then exercise) so I got to learn all about that. But that usually is just exploited. And how many people when they think about Karate thing "he cant hit me if I dont hit him first". The way the school would see it is, "hunh... they've beaten the hell out of this kid, now he's turning to Jackie Chan. He's not supposed to hit them but anger clouds the mind and decisions. Yeah.... lets put a stop to this." I'm not saying its right, or that its a definite, but I'm just saying, you can see what I mean, right? Thats why the misconception would hurt him too. He'd be (viewed as by the administration) a danger to everyone. And you're going to let him walk the halls? With football players who think if there is enough of them, or if they have bricks (which is BS, and I believe give you full right to brass knuckle one of those pussies, but thats neither here nor there and nothing something I'm telling you to do, just smething I've seen growing up on the streets) that they could easily take him.

And then what? THe Principal will have to see its self defense when the police make a report because 4 jocks are lying broken in the streets, so he'll have to punish the Jocks with a worse extension then the OP (unless its not on school grounds, which I dont think it would be, but lets just say it is), and then you have the football program fall apart and dissention in the ranks.

Is sports really such a big issue in the states?
If so I really feel sorry for you guys living there..

Also, it's not realistic in any sense that you can take on 4 guys unless you have extensive experience with combat.
But one act of defiance with the result of a broken nose on such a tosser should be enough to discourage any further beatings. Especially if he is told it was his own fault.

 

[Dags90]

Holy crap, I missed that bit! Yeah, that probably won't have helped.

On a tangent...

I know that a lot of 'nerds' are given grief because of things they do. Quite often, when you really look in to it, the attacks they receive 'for no reason' are actually the direct result of something they've done. The most popular one I've seen is assuming the other guy is considerably less intelligent than he actually is and attempting to sneak insults past him.

Bad move.

The other one is assuming that other people can't tell when you're being passive-aggressive (a term I barely had to use before starting posting here) and thinking that you can get away with being a complete twat to people's faces. Well unfortunately for the nerd passive aggression is still aggression and the guy you just fronted up to gets that.

Thirdly; teenagers don't back down properly. If you show your belly in a fight and the other guy gets the better of you for the love of God don't go spreading rumours about them, shooting them looks or making them look stupid! If you back down you back down, you don't needle them. Don't assume they can't hit you because something is stopping them, them not being able to and them not being allowed to are different things. Don't go around thinking that other people like them ARE them, there's nothing necessarily wrong with a jock because he shares hobbies with a bully.

Whenever it comes up on this forum it's never really pretty. It pretty much always devolves into revenge fantasy. I've also seen a lot of the passive aggressiveness in school by "nerds", probably because I wasn't one in high school. A lot of the time these people were so obnoxious that other nerds wouldn't hang out with them because they were so condescending all the time.

The valedictorian in my high school class was on a sport team. Does that make them a jock or a nerd?

I love all the stereotyping and armchair psychology though.

 

[emeraldrafael]

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No you're not. just not a very good one. XD JOKING! joking, seriously, joking.

And anywya, slander is a good way to get yourself arrested if youre in the public light. Its a good way to get you in detention/worse when its against someone, ESPECIALLY someone like the football players. the school system is rigged, broken, and horrible because places sports stars on pedistools and in the ranks of untouchable gods. Especially FOOTBALL players.

Except for hockey players. you never see love for pre-collegic hockey teams in America.

 

[Melvic Lilith]

@ OP: Well it sucks to be you. Always remember when in public its not who hit first, but whos seen hit back. You went quite a bit overboard with your own retaliation, though I'm sure you're sick of hearing that by this point. All I can say to help you is "just accept it" often times by the middle/end of collage people stop pulling that kind of stuff and start focusing on themselves for better or worse.

I've known quite a few bullies from my own highschool years, most weren't even in sports. Each and everyone of them got away with their actions in school simply because the staff didn't want to do anything about it, either thinking they would be targets next or simply didn't wish to deal with the extra headache. I don't know where they are now, I havn't thought about it for over a decade. Still in the end broken glasses, stolen items, burned cars it hasn't mattered to me in the least these years, it hurt then but its been long since over. I'm sure they are more sucessful then me, most bullies are (agressivness/true sociopathy makes great business traits) but unlike them I get time to do what I want out side of work. All the bully type bosses I've encountered are so busy planning out how to maximise their personal profits and betting when to jump ship that they won't even bother to go out for drinks.

*shrugs*

Anyway just let it go as best you can. It will help you in the long run. It really will.

 

[WestMountain]

I LIVE IN SWEDEN WE HAVE SOCIALISM SO EVERYONE IN SCHOOL IS EQUALLY AWESOME!!


OT: Too bad bro, but change school, a fresh start could be good for you.

 

[Jesus Phish]

This song sums up the attitude of these people.

Sounds like you've gotten a hard and unfair time. What schools seem to find vastly important in sports is beyond me.

 

[emeraldrafael]

Snip

So's Archery. I know about Karate and the rules of it. I took a year (it just wasnt for me. I was more meditation in Zen through thought rather then exercise) so I got to learn all about that. But that usually is just exploited. And how many people when they think about Karate thing "he cant hit me if I dont hit him first". The way the school would see it is, "hunh... they've beaten the hell out of this kid, now he's turning to Jackie Chan. He's not supposed to hit them but anger clouds the mind and decisions. Yeah.... lets put a stop to this." I'm not saying its right, or that its a definite, but I'm just saying, you can see what I mean, right? Thats why the misconception would hurt him too. He'd be (viewed as by the administration) a danger to everyone. And you're going to let him walk the halls? With football players who think if there is enough of them, or if they have bricks (which is BS, and I believe give you full right to brass knuckle one of those pussies, but thats neither here nor there and nothing something I'm telling you to do, just smething I've seen growing up on the streets) that they could easily take him.

And then what? THe Principal will have to see its self defense when the police make a report because 4 jocks are lying broken in the streets, so he'll have to punish the Jocks with a worse extension then the OP (unless its not on school grounds, which I dont think it would be, but lets just say it is), and then you have the football program fall apart and dissention in the ranks.

Is sports really such a big issue in the states?
If so I really feel sorry for you guys living there..

Also, it's not realistic in any sense that you can take on 4 guys unless you have extensive experience with combat.
But one act of defiance with the result of a broken nose on such a tosser should be enough to discourage any further beatings. Especially if he is told it was his own fault.

Exceedingly so. ANd I know, I feel sorry for us too. If theres one thing.... well... oka, a FEW things I would change, it would be stuff like this.

And no... it wont. They'l just come back with bricks. Hell, they've stopped short of pretty much Knifing the OP, I think unless he beats all four down at the same time or all four enough that they dont want to talk about it, they'll just keep coming back in bigger numbers. Its what happened to me in a nearly identical situation.

Besides, I know its unrealistic to beat up for people. Thats why people dont mess with me, cause I did it, but the problem is he needs to fight the crowd, not the leader. This guy is a football player. he's used to being entitled. He needs that knocked out of him, and then he needs the thought that the guys under him will support him on the basic thought that they are more numerous (probably repeated myself there).

 

[Stabber1010]

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No you're not. just not a very good one. XD JOKING! joking, seriously, joking.

And anywya, slander is a good way to get yourself arrested if youre in the public light. Its a good way to get you in detention/worse when its against someone, ESPECIALLY someone like the football players. the school system is rigged, broken, and horrible because places sports stars on pedistools and in the ranks of untouchable gods. Especially FOOTBALL players.

Except for hockey players. you never see love for pre-collegic hockey teams in America.

Not even when they get their front teeth punched out, eh? (sorry, had to make that joke)

It really is supposed to be subtle and sarcastic so that when you read it back to yourself it is only obvious to...yourself and maybe those who you explain it you. Think "glorious bastard" archetype there. Unfortunately, my school newspaper is full. My friend actually does this and for the most part, I get the jokes.

 

[zehydra]

This is part of the reason I hate the public schooling system. No one takes responsibility for anything in the public schooling system.

Edit: Oops. I didn't see that he was part of a private school system. But what I say about the Public School system, however unrelated to this thread, still stands.