I don't like Wii because it's allowed advertising and media types to needlessly segment people. Not only that the quality of too many of the games on the Wii is low and it sends the message that this kind of shoddy work is acceptible; in the same way that the 360 sends the message that it is perfectly fine to sell cheaply made hardware to people and just totally rip them off.
Why do people hate the Wii.
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I bought a Wii. Then I decided to trade it in for a console id actually use (a PSP Slim with Patapon & Disgaea). But I don't hate the Wii. I hate the ads FOR the Wii! Too many.
Personally, I went for quite awhile with a GameCube and no GBA, but I realize I might be an exception to the rule.Onmi said:
Really, Crystal Chronicles rage wasn't about what you might have had, it was about what you could pressure your friends into buying. It's little Timmy having a game he wants to play with his 3 friends who (Nintendo hopes) may not already own GBAs and link cables. $120 apiece, $360 total cash being sent in Nintendo's general direction. Not a bad piece of work for one Squaresoft game.
People hate the Wii because they want stick-waggling technology to be good right now. Nevermind that we've been shouting at arcade games for decades for misinterpreting our button presses. In addition, people are more aware of the Wii's dearth of bad games because there aren't as many good games to draw their attention away. There are just as many bad games for the other two big-budget systems. Hopefully this will change in the new year, what with all the promising new 'mainstream' titles to look forward to.
<a href=http://www.theslackerz.com/index.php?nav=Comic&Page=86>Nintendo's <a href=http://www.theslackerz.com/index.php?nav=Comic&Page=97>attitude doesn't help much, either.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to check out what's new on the shop channel.
EDIT: Fixed the links.
<a href=http://www.theslackerz.com/index.php?nav=Comic&Page=86>Nintendo's <a href=http://www.theslackerz.com/index.php?nav=Comic&Page=97>attitude doesn't help much, either.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to check out what's new on the shop channel.
EDIT: Fixed the links.
That's what I feel. I had been the Womanizing Gladiator of peace justice and nintendo in high school, everyone else had Halo and said how cool it was. But I stuck to my kirby and link to the end. Because I knew that the Dolphin ( now called the Wii) would smile upon my faith and grant me what was to be a B-Class virtual reality. But the false prophets of the gaming magazines kicked me in the shorts with their lies. And I was betrayed, the controls horrible and the games worse, which is why I went to the dark side : XBOX 360AuntyEthel said:
It is my belief that should the Wii have not come with the motion control it is praised/bashed for, then the Wii would be a complete failure. Infact, before they announced the motion control, my mind was fully set that it would fail and become another Gamecube.
But other than that, I have no problems with it's marketing. While I havn't played mine in ages, with the lack of "must have games!" syndrome from me with my Wii, and me reluctant to buy anything for it (I borrow from my friend if possible), I appreciate what it tries to do.
I always hate it when 360/PS3 elitists (or Nintendo faithfuls sometimes) always push the Wii down because it's not "caturing to 'hardcure' funs!!@$^" or that it's all "casual" gaming for it. How else are we going to broaden the audience for Video Games?
Conversely, I absolutely hate it when even more people bash the 360/PS3 because it's not catering to broadening the audience or because it's "all HD and expensuv! They went ahead of themsulvs!$!%" How else are we supposed to advance our experience if you guys want to stick to cartidges?
This console generation is by far the most balanced, and because of that it's the most bloodthirstiest wars of all.
Let us have a moment of silence for those whom sacrificed themselves for our protection.
"We will never forget!"
*sheds a tear*
But other than that, I have no problems with it's marketing. While I havn't played mine in ages, with the lack of "must have games!" syndrome from me with my Wii, and me reluctant to buy anything for it (I borrow from my friend if possible), I appreciate what it tries to do.
I always hate it when 360/PS3 elitists (or Nintendo faithfuls sometimes) always push the Wii down because it's not "caturing to 'hardcure' funs!!@$^" or that it's all "casual" gaming for it. How else are we going to broaden the audience for Video Games?
Conversely, I absolutely hate it when even more people bash the 360/PS3 because it's not catering to broadening the audience or because it's "all HD and expensuv! They went ahead of themsulvs!$!%" How else are we supposed to advance our experience if you guys want to stick to cartidges?
This console generation is by far the most balanced, and because of that it's the most bloodthirstiest wars of all.
Let us have a moment of silence for those whom sacrificed themselves for our protection.
"We will never forget!"
*sheds a tear*
Yeah, that was exactly how it went for me too. (Well, except the high school part.) I never would have even considered buying an Xbox if the Wii had satisfied my gamer needs. But it didn't, so after waiting patiently for 1,5 years or so I finally had to look elsewhere..pantsoffdanceoff said:
By the way, I believe 'Dolphin' was the codename of the Gamecube, and 'Revolution' of the Wii.
I'm not sure I hate the Wii, but I'm not exactly a fan either tbh.
I am an old fan of Zelda and Mario Kart, but I just find the console gimmicky and faddish, with nothing I can get my teeth properly into. The games that I see seem to be just excuses to wiggle a plastic baton around in mid-air.... good for family parties maybe, but really not the kind of game I can buy into when gaming on my own. Even by the fourth party I can see my self getting really bored of jumping around like a burnt monkey, just because it's the latest thing to do.
I just honestly don't see the difference in repetively jerking a plastic stick back and forth, or pressing the X button... The game play isnt any different or deeper to me personally. It just looks like the same thing with worse gfx infact.
Plus, I hate the way their adverts ALWAYS show the grandmother or girlfriend beating the bloke gamer in a pathetic bid to blow smoke up their bums and get them to buy it.
All IMO of course
I am an old fan of Zelda and Mario Kart, but I just find the console gimmicky and faddish, with nothing I can get my teeth properly into. The games that I see seem to be just excuses to wiggle a plastic baton around in mid-air.... good for family parties maybe, but really not the kind of game I can buy into when gaming on my own. Even by the fourth party I can see my self getting really bored of jumping around like a burnt monkey, just because it's the latest thing to do.
I just honestly don't see the difference in repetively jerking a plastic stick back and forth, or pressing the X button... The game play isnt any different or deeper to me personally. It just looks like the same thing with worse gfx infact.
Plus, I hate the way their adverts ALWAYS show the grandmother or girlfriend beating the bloke gamer in a pathetic bid to blow smoke up their bums and get them to buy it.
All IMO of course
I sold my Wii after it collecting dust for 3 months after I bought my 360. The reason I sold it and the reason, I think, most people dislike it, is because it's very "kiddie". It just has a very cartoony/kiddie feel to it. It's also missing important features. No hard drive to store all the games you buy from the Wii store. No headset or chat capabilities making online play insanely annoying for team based games. HDTVs are dropping so rapidly in price everyone's got one and the Wii graphics, while good, are just nowhere near the other consoles. Devs have to deal with a whole new control scheme that they, from interviews I've read, find annoying.Sewblon said:
I do have to say, the Wii is great fun. It's fun for parties though, not really for 1 person. 4 people playing Tiger Woods, all swinging the Wiimotes around.... it was a great time. I don't hang out with 3 other people often though, schedules are too different. This is another reason I sold it.
I don't think people "hate" the Wii, I just think people get caught up in the whole console war thing. It's like Chevy vs. Ford, people get all worked up for no good reason and don't mean to take it as far as they usually do.
You see... I don't care if we do or don't broaden the market for video games, it measn nothing to me. I don't want challenge and in depth gameplay thrown out for a casual lite approach that exists only to maximise the potentiol demographic for maximum profiteering to line the pocket of a corperation.Jumplion said:
Why would I? I don't own shares in any of these companies, so them upping the units they sell means little to me tbh.
It just seems to me that the best games were made when the market was relatively small.
Not attacking you, just the way I see it
Oh yeah, it was. Some kind "Revolution" the Wii was. ahahahaaAntiparticle said:
The cartridges were awesome, if they were broke you could just blow in them and voila! It was like the air you exhaled was magical.Jumplion said:
before anyone spams my mailbox with retort upon retort telling me how i am wrong in every way, just know that i greatly appreciate the Wii and what's its doing for the video game world. I think it was a good call on Nintendo's end to modify their old ways...
... slightly.
people dis the Wii because it's just generally mediocre compared to the others.
low-quality graphics, half-assed controls (although they are incredibly intuitive), and only about 4 or 5 games worth buying.
it's just really hard to get into the games when they are either targeted towards an audience that is half your age, not difficult enough to find any real worth in playing, or too short to get even remotely involved.
i think that Nintendo's biggest flaw is that it keeps beating the dead horse of the Mario, Link, and Metroid franchises. Instead of designing new characters with new stories and worlds, they continue to crank out the same games over and over again with just a new coat of paint on each
... slightly.
people dis the Wii because it's just generally mediocre compared to the others.
low-quality graphics, half-assed controls (although they are incredibly intuitive), and only about 4 or 5 games worth buying.
it's just really hard to get into the games when they are either targeted towards an audience that is half your age, not difficult enough to find any real worth in playing, or too short to get even remotely involved.
i think that Nintendo's biggest flaw is that it keeps beating the dead horse of the Mario, Link, and Metroid franchises. Instead of designing new characters with new stories and worlds, they continue to crank out the same games over and over again with just a new coat of paint on each
But you see, those "casual" games where complexity is thrown out for simplicity, those games are almost always only for the Wii. It's a side-effect, it happens in the Film Industry as well as the Book and Music industry, but the thing is, there's still no shortage of deep complex games and most of those games are for the "hardcore" consoles.vesavius said:You see... I don't care if we do or don't broaden the market for video games, it measn nothing to me. I don't want challenge and in depth gameplay thrown out for a casual lite approach that exists only to maximise the potentiol demographic for maximum profiteering to line the pocket of a corperation.Jumplion said:
Why would I? I don't own shares in any of these companies, so them upping the units they sell means little to me tbh.
It just seems to me that the best games were made when the market was relatively small.
Not attacking you, just the way I see it
It's a perfect balance, i'm telling you. The wii picks up new gamers which eventually go over to the more "hardcore" gamers to become elitists like us. This won't happen all the time, but it will happen alot.
Thats fair enough, and I get your point, but...Jumplion said:But you see, those "casual" games where complexity is thrown out for simplicity, those games are almost always only for the Wii. It's a side-effect, it happens in the Film Industry as well as the Book and Music industry, but the thing is, there's still no shortage of deep complex games and most of those games are for the "hardcore" consoles.vesavius said:You see... I don't care if we do or don't broaden the market for video games, it measn nothing to me. I don't want challenge and in depth gameplay thrown out for a casual lite approach that exists only to maximise the potentiol demographic for maximum profiteering to line the pocket of a corperation.Jumplion said:
Why would I? I don't own shares in any of these companies, so them upping the units they sell means little to me tbh.
It just seems to me that the best games were made when the market was relatively small.
Not attacking you, just the way I see it
It's a perfect balance, i'm telling you. The wii picks up new gamers which eventually go over to the more "hardcore" gamers to become elitists like us. This won't happen all the time, but it will happen alot.
(theres always a but right?)
My worry, and one of the reasons that the Wii rings warning bells that add to my wariness of it and what it represents, is that suuurre there are 2 'hardcore' consoles and 1 'casual' console this time round, Sony and MS were for sure caught out this time, we all know that, but now these two have seen themselves raped by Nintendo, will there be x3 'casual' consoles next time?
This is what worries me, and indeed concerns me for the future of games in general.
I think that the Wii will dictate the future console market... I mean, look at PS Home. It's a horrible ghetto of adverts and casual games. These guys are led ONLY by the need to generate revenue, nothing else, and right now the Wii is pulling more in right?
I'm not saying anything for sure, or being a prophet of doom, but like I say warning bells are ringing.
Why am I getting fed up with the Wii?
Because every single time I go shopping for new games, I can't find a single Wii title that interests me even a little bit. They're all either for little kids, based off of movies, gimmicky bullshit, or yet another spin-off of one of Nintendo's franchises. Nintendo said at E3 that they were going to make more games for casual gamers, but I didn't think that would be all they'd sell!
Because every single time I go shopping for new games, I can't find a single Wii title that interests me even a little bit. They're all either for little kids, based off of movies, gimmicky bullshit, or yet another spin-off of one of Nintendo's franchises. Nintendo said at E3 that they were going to make more games for casual gamers, but I didn't think that would be all they'd sell!
Eh. I already own most of those on other consoles, and the others I'm not interested in.DreamKing said: