Why do people seem to think Gamepads are better than KB+M?

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Cerebrawl

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I expect MOBAs will largely migrate to console soon and stay there. Blizzard was able to port Diablo III well, I don't see why they wouldn't already be considering the same thing for Heroes of the Storm. /schadenfreudecackle
You avoided mentioning FPS/TPS games, which are also much better with mouse. Really anything with first or over the shoulder view, possible exception of some melee combat games, anything with pointer or crosshair aiming is better with a mouse.

But yeah anything that gets rid of click-to-move for diablo/MOBA games is a good thing, I can't stand it. I'd rather have WASD+mouse, but twin-stick is preferable to click to move any day, I thuroughly loath that control scheme, can't enjoy those games at all because of it, that's anything diablo, torchlight, path of exile, etc.
 

NuclearKangaroo

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i say they are both equal, gamepads are better for roughly half of the genres out there and KB+M better for the other half

playing shooters with a gamepad is plain horrible, and same can be said about fighters with a keyboard
 

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I don't own a console myself, but from what (comparatively) little I played on consoles at friends', I have to say that I find a controller more ergonomical than keyboard + mouse. And if I had a bit more practice, I would probably not suck quite that much when playing with controllers either.
That's why I think gamepads are better... for titles that can be reasonably played with controllers. Which are most games, I guess, other than strategy and stuff.
 

DrOswald

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KB+M is better when you need the speed or precision of a mouse, the many buttons of a keyboard, or both. Under most other cases Gamepad is better.

Each input device has advantages and disadvantages. I would never play MMX with a KB+M for example, but I would also never play Civilization 5 with a controller. Which is why I have both.
 

Able Seacat

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I'm used to using a controller and I'm just plain awful using KB+M. It really just comes down to personal preference most of the time unless the game has been designed specifically with one or the other in mind. Or if you're playing competitively and want to find which one will allow best reaction times etc. Such as KB+M for shooters and fight sticks for fighters.
 

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Zhukov said:
Gankytim said:
Eugh, seems I've kicked up a shitstorm.

I'm not intendting to piss people off, I'm just spouting my own personal anecdote and experience being well versed in both.
Don't worry, you're new, you weren't to know.

This topic always gets people pissed off. You'd be amazed how belligerent people get over their preferred method of video game input.
Heh, yeah whenever you suggest that one gives you greater contol and precision people outright get angry, it's almost nonensical. It's like they have some emotional stake in what's better. (They shouldn't, it's not like anyone is going to laugh at you for using a controller.)

I look at it like this, you can rub two sticks together(using a gamepad in an FPS, or a KB+M in a racing game), or you can strike a match (using KB+M in an RPG, using a controler in a fighting game). Yes, one is superior and gives you more ease of use but they both get the job done.
 

Poetic Nova

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Both are fine to me. However, KB+M makes fps's better to play since you cannot aim like you should with a gamepad, granted, I only need it for Stalker. I play Borderlands on my PS3 fine with a controller.
 

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Ahh yes. The ol' "why do people have different opinions" topic. Always a fun time, and always full of rational debate and understanding!

Personally speaking, it all just comes down to preference for me. I just don't like the feel of the KB-M combo. It doesn't matter if it's objectively "better" for most games or not. It doesn't feel better to me. I like the grip of a controller, rather than having my hands splayed out over a keyboard. It's just a better feeling when gaming for me, and I tend not to have to think about it as much, so I can focus more on actually playing the game.
 

Nieroshai

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I've never received carpal tunnel pains from a good controller. A mouse, on the other hand...
 

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Sniper Team 4

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Been using a controller for my whole life. Mouse and Keyboard just feels wrong. Hands are too far apart for my liking and I am constantly looking down at the keyboard because I'm not familiar with the layout when I do try it. My brain and muscle memory just aren't familiar with, and thus I don't like, the mouse and keyboard setup. And I've never had any problems doing anything with a controller.
 

Auberon

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Quick glance, I think I'm the second person to say the magic word: console ports.

They have homogeneous software and are widespread enough that developers can relatively safely ignore PC near-completely, so they do lazy port without ANY optimization even for KB+M in this topic.
 

Ticklefist

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Interesting how the reasons people prefer gamepads are virtually the same reasons I prefer the keyboard and mouse.
 

Azaraxzealot

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for me it's a comfort thing. Due to my lifelong illness i almost always need to be laying down or else be in excruciating pain. a controller lends itself to my predicament.
 

Weaver

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Controller is better for action games and fighting games IMO. I'd never want to play Bayonetta with a M&KB for instance.
M&KB is better for RPGs, MMOs, RTS, and Shooters in my opinion.
 

Pink Gregory

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I much prefer a controller for third person.

First person it's M+KB, no contest.

Think that's where I draw my line; aside from obvious advantages to non-action games with PC setup, though I remember playing quite a few hours of playing Tropico 3 on the 360 with a keyboard with very few problems.
 

Callate

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Who are these "people"?

For some games- mostly ones where combinations of buttons have to be pressed quickly in hard, fixed sequences, sometimes involving repetition- gamepads have a leg up.

For games that require precision aiming or a lot of menu-selection, I'd generally prefer keyboard and mouse.

Either can be crap in games with interfaces that didn't take their particular advantages or disadvantages to heart.

It's easier to find a particular button for a QTE sequence on a controller with ten buttons than on a keyboard with 100+, but I don't really think that's a recommendation for controllers so much as yet another strike against QTE sequences.
 

lord canti

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It depends on the game truthfully. When it comes to FPS's,TPS's,RTS's, and RPG's I almost always go with a KB & M. However, when I'm playing action games and platformers I almost always play with a game pad
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DeimosMasque

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Honestly I hate the KB+M setup because of my left-handedness. Even moving the keyboard bindings doesn't really solve the problem for me as it just feels kind of... unnatural. Just Mouse I can handle. Just Keyboard I can handle. But if it's KB+M I just can't get it to feel comfortable or natural.