Why do people support this?

[SecretTacoNinja]

Rodeos are incredibly dangerous to animals and humans. I didn't approve of it before watching that video.

Your avatar reminds me of me, and I like me, considerably.

Oh? I based it on me. I always do a big, almost creepy grin in photos because I'm incapable of smiling properly

[small]Also I really wish I had black hair and golden eyes...[/small]

Hmm, yes friend, but it's missing something...ah, I see, needs more vomit.

Heh heh, gross.

 

[Simalacrum]

I would make fun of Americans for being cruel to animals and what not, but honestly? that would be hypocritical of me, us Europeans aren't any better when it comes to animal cruelty... take Bull fighting, for example, not exactly animal friendly now, is it?

unfortunately, that is cruel and non-entertaining, yes, but some people just enjoy that kind of thing i'm afraid.

 

[Delicious]

People who worry about shit like this are simply stupid.

Look at yourself. All the possessions you have are created through pain and torture, in one way or another. Do you think our food simply appears in stores? No. The animals were originally tamed, enslaved, their wills broken. Do you worry about it? Probably not.

People who go "wow, that's obscene, wah wah, humanity is horrible" just piss me off.

No, I don't condone violence. Not really. But look at yourself. You surround yourself with delusions. Cruelty has existed, exists, and will exist in a variety of places. And even though I don't really care, I'd rather set my priorities and worry about cruelty directed at people before cruelty directed at what, pretty much, is a disposable and easily renewable resource.

And that brings us to the whole argument about value of life. Is life worth shit? I'd say not really. Life is worth nothing. What's truly important is mind. Mind and memory. Understanding. A death of human is mourned because the friends and relatives lose a living mind, not a pile of organs and bones.

Don't follow what you think is moral. Question it.

Is your dog really with you because you think it likes you? Or is it because it was enslaved, conditioned through generations, to heed your commands and be your pawn? Because dogs' untamed variant, a wolf, for example, would simply run away or try to kill you instead of trying to play ball.

You could probably compare taming with complete slavery, really. Fuck I hate PETA. If anything is worth in this world, it's conscious thought and human mind.

Nail on the head.

They are animals people, this crap is pretty much what they are designed for.

 

[tenlong]

I would not do it myself. A lot of old time ranchers did brake a horse in the most cruel way. From what i seen and heard about, Braking horses the most humane way is usually very time consuming. A lot of people don't wanna brake a horse the harder but less cruel way.

 

[Tyler_Durden]

theyre 500 pound animals they dont get hurt that easily

its not like theyre cats
you can be a little bit rougher to something that can kill a man with a kick and theyre incredibally muscular. besides they get hurt more during races.

im not talking about animal abuse but i kinda have to drag my dog like that sometimes and he is perfectly fine.

and yes my dog is a big dog.

 

[WeedWorm]

Meh, thats rednecks for ya.

 

[Playbahnosh]

Hmm. I really don't know what's happening on the video. Maybe because I'm from Cental Europe, but I can't seem to understand what is so amusing about torturing animals. I'm far from a PETA activist, but I simply don't get what's the entertainment in that rodeo stuff.

It seems to me people over there like to torture animals just for the hell of it. Well, that's one way to assert evolutionary superiority, but what's the point? Those animals won't even fight back and they certainly won't respect those people more just because they fling them around like so much sacks of potato. It's pretty pointless.

 

[Tyler_Durden]

People who worry about shit like this are simply stupid.

Look at yourself. All the possessions you have are created through pain and torture, in one way or another. Do you think our food simply appears in stores? No. The animals were originally tamed, enslaved, their wills broken. Do you worry about it? Probably not.

People who go "wow, that's obscene, wah wah, humanity is horrible" just piss me off.

No, I don't condone violence. Not really. But look at yourself. You surround yourself with delusions. Cruelty has existed, exists, and will exist in a variety of places. And even though I don't really care, I'd rather set my priorities and worry about cruelty directed at people before cruelty directed at what, pretty much, is a disposable and easily renewable resource.

And that brings us to the whole argument about value of life. Is life worth shit? I'd say not really. Life is worth nothing. What's truly important is mind. Mind and memory. Understanding. A death of human is mourned because the friends and relatives lose a living mind, not a pile of organs and bones.

Don't follow what you think is moral. Question it.

Is your dog really with you because you think it likes you? Or is it because it was enslaved, conditioned through generations, to heed your commands and be your pawn? Because dogs' untamed variant, a wolf, for example, would simply run away or try to kill you instead of trying to play ball.

You could probably compare taming with complete slavery, really. Fuck I hate PETA. If anything is worth in this world, it's conscious thought and human mind.

this just may be the most compelling argument i have seen in this thread

also the thing that makes it so horrible for human flesh to be eaten as apposed to animal meat is that humans are the only animal that is able to reason. we have language and we speak, we can reason. that is why noone cares that that lion ate that antelope but everybody cares that a man was beaten to death. its because humans value life and those humans will beg to not be killed and that is why it is so horrible for as man to murder another man.

 

[JoshasorousRex]

That...wasn't that bad...

That is exactly what I was going to put. It didn't seem that bad to me. Maybe I'm just a bad person? :O

 

[CoziestPigeon]

What's the video about? I gather from your posts it's about animal abuse of some kind, but I'd rather not click a link if it's to animal torture and have that kind of information on my hard drive....

It's a hippy video over-reacting about a rodeo. I watched the first 1:30 while the guy was saying 'its horrific animal torture' but really it's just a few horses being pulled to the ground by cowboys. That shit does not bother a horse beyond the obvious "hey jackass, stop that."

The dude who made that video is obviously a pompous jackass from a city, never been around a farm.

 

[roboosh]

they are inbred, thats why

This

 

[Snugglebunny]

Eh, I'm a vegetarian, and love animals and all that, but I'm finding it kind of hard to care. Two things:
1. Its really easy to sit in your nice suburban home or apartment and point fingers going 'thats cruuuel' without understanding more about farm culture. I'm not saying abuse is right, but a degree of force is needed in controlling the animal.
2. Why did they want us to boycott sponsors of events? I mean, wouldn't it make more sense to you know, boycott or confront the actual event itself? For me, this whole thing reeks of knee jerk action and half baked response.

Although that cow thing was downright freaky. What did they call it? Yeeesh, I'd call that abuse.

 

[sumanoskae]

that?s sick

 

[Ridergurl10]

Honestly this is not as cruel as this guy makes it look. Note I'm not saying its a good thing, its just not as bad as he makes it look. The wild horse race is a really dumb event that causes much more injury to the people dumb enough to do it than to the horses themselves. If you are looking for something that is much crueler to horses try, racing. Seriously racing injures, permanently maims and kills way more horses than ANY other horse-related sport.

Hmm...
Ridersomething...profile says something along the lines of "owns a horse"...I'll bet your opinion is one of the more valid ones on the thread (not to knock anyone else) so I might as well ask you.

I didn't watch the whole video, so if it was mentioned, sorry, but is this sort of a "horse-breaking" rodeo? What I mean is- isn't this the process you go through when breaking a horse? Obviously, being that it's done with a huge group of horses it looks sort of inhumane and jackass-ish, but was there really anything abnormal going on?

I've always throught horse racing was a bit ...well I've never liked it.

I'm always happy to answer questions especially about horses! This is just a normal rodeo, not a special "horse-breaking" rodeo, but they are breaking these horses. This is a normal process, although the way they are going about it is not good. They are rushing since it is a race. However during normal breaking of wild horses some of the same stuff that the original poster believed was cruel would happen. Racing is really much worse, because it tends to ruin horses for life because they are run way too young and will be crippled for life!

 

[Bofus Teefus]

I didn't watch the whole video, so if it was mentioned, sorry, but is this sort of a "horse-breaking" rodeo? What I mean is- isn't this the process you go through when breaking a horse? Obviously, being that it's done with a huge group of horses it looks sort of inhumane and jackass-ish, but was there really anything abnormal going on?

I've always throught horse racing was a bit ...well I've never liked it.

I'm always happy to answer questions especially about horses! This is just a normal rodeo, not a special "horse-breaking" rodeo, but they are breaking these horses. This is a normal process, although the way they are going about it is not good. They are rushing since it is a race. However during normal breaking of wild horses some of the same stuff that the original poster believed was cruel would happen. Racing is really much worse, because it tends to ruin horses for life because they are run way too young and will be crippled for life!

Thanks- I kind of figured, but know nothing at all about a minimal amount about horse training, so I was curious. We definitely see eye to eye on racing.

 

[LewsTherin]

....

That's really not that bad. It originally would be done so the horse would get used to having someone on its back and not throw (and probably kill) that person. All a rodeo is is a bunch of cowboys showing off how they do their jobs. Believe me when I say that most people who actually work out on ranches have the utmost respect for the animals they work with.

There's a LOT worse stuff that goes on in the world.

 

[Cortheya]

This wasn't bad....now the kid at my school bragging about a video on his phone of him cutting his pig's balls off....that was sickening

 

[cleverlymadeup]

i watched the video and what they did to those animals wasn't that cruel. as has been said they are just breaking the horse so it can be ridden

now if anyone has owned a dog will know this is something that happens when you try to leash train your dog, if it hasn't already been leash trained, but just on a larger scale

i think people would say it's cruel because they've never seen this happen before but really if you live on a farm with horses or visit a horse farm will have seen something like this before

 

[The Rockerfly]

You haven't even seen it. I don't know which is worse though; the guy who made it or the people who like it and search for it

And that's why Freedom of Speech is a great concept. Just because YOU find it "disgusting" it's not going to be banned, and it should stay that way, as long as no actual human beings are harmed.

Who are YOU to tell people what to like and what to hate? What if you don't like gay porn, what now, should it all be banned and taken off?

Ignorant imbecile. Freedoms of Thought, Expression and Speech are the greatest things ever and they should be kept untouched. And, in some cases, they should be explored further because of censoring bastards.

If you don't agree, the Secret Police who can read and censure your thoughts will get you.

The problem with this is that people are getting hurt and it is breaking other laws such as basic human rights, gay porn doesn't break basic human rights, while this in short is torture.
Although I didn't see it from your point of view, maybe anime versions should be legal but there is a large difference between making gay porn banned and this other porn

Gay porn: Doesn't hurt anyone and is consented, people hate it because they are ignorant
Name of the torture porn: Torture, children involved, rape, mutilation and sadistic. I hate it because it breaks basic human rights.

 

[TheTygerfire]

Honestly this is not as cruel as this guy makes it look. Note I'm not saying its a good thing, its just not as bad as he makes it look. The wild horse race is a really dumb event that causes much more injury to the people dumb enough to do it than to the horses themselves. If you are looking for something that is much crueler to horses try, racing. Seriously racing injures, permanently maims and kills way more horses than ANY other horse-related sport.

Agreed. The moment he said "terrorized" I turned the video off. I hate the overuse of the term...