Maybe it's just me, but I don't care to see nerds in a sitcom. I'd rather watch actual nerd shows, like Stargate, and Battlestar Galctica (new one). Sitcoms are just boring no matter who's depicted.
Why do some nerds hate Big Bang Theory?
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But it's not just about the pacing, it's the frequency. In this clip That I post they have one joke. My new computer came with windows 7. Windows 7 is much more user friendly than windows vista. I don't like that. But in it they get three big laughs. My new computer came with windows 7 *big laugh* It's much more user friendly than vista *medium laugh* I don't like that *huge laugh*. It's fucking abuse for a okay joke at best.Buccura said:
[HEADING=1]plus it's a blatant ad![/HEADING]
It doesn't have a laugh track, seriously I went to where it was filmed and they just rejig the jokes on set if they don't make the audience laugh and even rewrite some of it.
I'm okay with it, but it's not brilliant. It's just the actual quality of the show I worry about. Try watching Red Dwarf.
Sheldon (I think he's the "main character") drives me absolutely up the wall, and I don't like any of the other characters any better. Mostly Sheldon though. I can't stand him. It's not that I don't get the jokes, or that I wouldn't find some of it humorous, but I can't really see any humor in it at all if I hate most of the characters that are doing the jokes. It just gets a "...that was funny...I suppose," out of me.
I just find the characters themselves completely devoid of all humor, and thus, don't like the show (seeing as how I am a very character-driven person).
I just find the characters themselves completely devoid of all humor, and thus, don't like the show (seeing as how I am a very character-driven person).
I don't like the show because it's not all that funny, laugh tracks are the bane of comedy, and most of the "jargon" isn't funny if you understand it, it's only value is the fact that it's jargon to the layman.
What pushes me from a state of disinterest, to a state of loathing of the show is that I have a friend who is a complete lay-woman, and who loves the show, and continually tells me that my close friends and I are exactly the same as the characters on the show, which is a little offensive when you consider how awkward the characters are. Admittedly I am a little awkward, but not cripplingly so, and probably no more than your average gamer/scientist-y guy. It's charming in tv-land, but the level of social ineptness displayed in the show is not good in real life.
Plus I think the only real reason the comparison comes up is because I like and am studying physics, so that = popularized image of physicists.
Summary: It's inferior to other sitcoms like scrubs/community/just about anything to come out of britain, and it reinforces a stereotype which I thought was slowly dying.
What pushes me from a state of disinterest, to a state of loathing of the show is that I have a friend who is a complete lay-woman, and who loves the show, and continually tells me that my close friends and I are exactly the same as the characters on the show, which is a little offensive when you consider how awkward the characters are. Admittedly I am a little awkward, but not cripplingly so, and probably no more than your average gamer/scientist-y guy. It's charming in tv-land, but the level of social ineptness displayed in the show is not good in real life.
Plus I think the only real reason the comparison comes up is because I like and am studying physics, so that = popularized image of physicists.
Summary: It's inferior to other sitcoms like scrubs/community/just about anything to come out of britain, and it reinforces a stereotype which I thought was slowly dying.
It's definetly not a show for nerds. I'm a nerd, I don't hate it, but I find some of there jokes to be trying a bit to hard.
It's a show for my sister not for me.
It's not as bad as a Law and Order show I watched once though. They were trying to depict a video game murder and omg the stereotype was just absolutely nonsense. If I remember correctly it had a guy getting mad at the investigator because he was turning off his playstation which he hadn't saved yet even though the guy had murder charges pressed against him . .. .
It's a pretty bad show but in terms of nerds I would say it's pretty accurate in terms of what they do. I know I do alot of the stuff in which they do in big bang theory, they do try hard with some of their one liners though such as - "SOMEBODY PASS ME SOME CRANBERRY JUICE ASAP!!"
It's a show for my sister not for me.
It's not as bad as a Law and Order show I watched once though. They were trying to depict a video game murder and omg the stereotype was just absolutely nonsense. If I remember correctly it had a guy getting mad at the investigator because he was turning off his playstation which he hadn't saved yet even though the guy had murder charges pressed against him . .. .
It's a pretty bad show but in terms of nerds I would say it's pretty accurate in terms of what they do. I know I do alot of the stuff in which they do in big bang theory, they do try hard with some of their one liners though such as - "SOMEBODY PASS ME SOME CRANBERRY JUICE ASAP!!"
It's made by the same guy who makes Two and a Half Men, and it plays out like a version of Friends where every character is Alan Harper. If you have absolutely no sense of dignity or pride in your nerdiness, then I guess you could conceivably find it sort of funny; but I feel that nerds have been written by non-nerds for too long, and Theory is a hideously egregious example.
Yes, this is something I get a tad vindictive about. But I don't think my nerd rage is clouding my vision. It's just generally a middling sitcom (and, by extension, a horrible piece of entertainment).
Yes, this is something I get a tad vindictive about. But I don't think my nerd rage is clouding my vision. It's just generally a middling sitcom (and, by extension, a horrible piece of entertainment).
I was trying to get my friend into BBT, and he said he didn't like it because it "Misrepresented the subculture"
I love The Big Bang Theory, it pulls well on my giggle muscles!
Also, that Penny, goshdarnit she is beautiful, she is also a gamer irl..
Also, that Penny, goshdarnit she is beautiful, she is also a gamer irl..
I wouldnt really be considered a nerd, but I think the show is okay in small doses. I can see why nerds might not like it after reading the thread; if all the technobabble actually makes sense to you and its actually wrong, thats not so funny. Anyway, to me its alright, but the characters get annoying after a while and if it wasn't for Sheldon I don't think the show would be remotely worth watching.
I tried to watch it but then I realized every joke, literally every one was "oh wow, look how nerdy these guys are". And so was everything else in the show.
I mean, that can be funny, I'll admit, but when it's every single joke in the show, and accompanied by a laugh track every time someone says anything, it gets both tired and insulting. It also means they're devoid of character and are just unlikable and unsympathetic.
And I know it's actual laughter, but that doesn't make it acceptable. The comedy should stand on it's own. If people need to be told when to laugh, your writers are bad and you should feel bad. I mean, why even include the audience? The only time laugh tracks are good is when you're making fun of sitcoms like this - It was genuinely funny in Scott Pilgrim.
I mean, that can be funny, I'll admit, but when it's every single joke in the show, and accompanied by a laugh track every time someone says anything, it gets both tired and insulting. It also means they're devoid of character and are just unlikable and unsympathetic.
And I know it's actual laughter, but that doesn't make it acceptable. The comedy should stand on it's own. If people need to be told when to laugh, your writers are bad and you should feel bad. I mean, why even include the audience? The only time laugh tracks are good is when you're making fun of sitcoms like this - It was genuinely funny in Scott Pilgrim.
I don't know whether I'm nerdy enough to make this call or not (I have a physics bachelor and master's of engineering) but I think nerds like the show just as much as anyone else. If anything, I have seen nearly every single one of the ideas in the series being implemented/occur in real life by my nerdy friends, or me.
Nerds are by far the easiest going groups you will ever see. Heck, if the whole world laughs at you, you pretty much know to laugh with them. If anything, a person with intellectual superiority really doesn't give a crap what you say to them (until you start hitting them) because if they so wishes, their words will always trump yours. They are rarely offended by stereotypes, especially bad ones.
Maybe OP's friend just feel the same way I do about most American shows--they're frikkishly annoying. I hated Family Guy and Southpark because they rely on "annoying actions" as humor--basically what Sheldon always does, minus the clever writing. If you don't get the references with Big Bang, then the clever writing part disappears there too.
On the other hand, I find Scott Pilgrim genuinely unfunny. It's interesting, sure. Novel? Yes. Funy? Not for me. I get all their references, but I just don't like the straight-face humor that they use.
Nerds are by far the easiest going groups you will ever see. Heck, if the whole world laughs at you, you pretty much know to laugh with them. If anything, a person with intellectual superiority really doesn't give a crap what you say to them (until you start hitting them) because if they so wishes, their words will always trump yours. They are rarely offended by stereotypes, especially bad ones.
Maybe OP's friend just feel the same way I do about most American shows--they're frikkishly annoying. I hated Family Guy and Southpark because they rely on "annoying actions" as humor--basically what Sheldon always does, minus the clever writing. If you don't get the references with Big Bang, then the clever writing part disappears there too.
On the other hand, I find Scott Pilgrim genuinely unfunny. It's interesting, sure. Novel? Yes. Funy? Not for me. I get all their references, but I just don't like the straight-face humor that they use.
first I had to bold that because that phrase nearly made me rofl my cup noodles all over my keyboard.Turigamot said:
second, Annie IS great! You're right about that. I think Annie makes the best stand-alone character, but I kinda like troy and abed a little more (but they wouldn't work as well without each other)
and third, I freaking loved "An American Tale" growing up... it's sequel too.
I feel like coming late to the party, but yeah, count me in on the Hate Crowd.
As 2 1/2 Men, the main failing of the show, imo, is that the characters are just f*ing horrible.
Both Alan from Men and Sheldon from Bang are so stereotypical and downright retarded (not wanting to offend anyone, but especially Sheldon is shown as being an Aspie the same way Cartoons from 1930 or whatever portrayed black people and Nazis portrayed jews) that they are not only unlikable (wich isn't neccessarily a death sentence for a comedy character) but also nerve-wreckingly annoying.
And no character ever seems to really act beyond his limited set of stereotypes. Compare that to the Characters of Spaced, who are also stereotypes but don't act out there stereotypical traits in EVERY.SINGLE.SCENE. Or to The IT Crowd, with Moss being a socially awkward Ultra-Nerd to-the-extreme, but also also often acting in surprising ways depending on the situation.
And the Nerd-Reference-Stuff isn't so much "demeaning", "sterotypical" or even "wrong", but in my opinion mostly meaningless and not-really-funny.
Or even if it's sort of interesting or clever (like there was an episode where the Nerds are in the same train as Summer Glau and awkwardly hitting on her..i think), it feels like it gets pointed out annoyingly (...with one of the Nerds awkwardly having a long winded exposition speech so even the person sitting half-asleep in front of his TV getting why Summer Glau is such an Object of Affection to Nerds) and beaten to death (by having, as far as i remember, almost the entire episode just about that Gag).
And it really starts to annoy me how "real" Nerds tend to be so easily swayed by something that acknowledges stuff they like, even if the reference itself sucks.
I'm still baffled how so many people, for example, liked the World of Warcraft Episode of South Park, wich is in my opinion lazily written (Hurr Durr, WoW Players are Nerdy Fat Blobs that hold thier game to awkward importance).
(Once again, i prefer Spaced and The IT Crowd here for better acknowledging Geek- and Pop-Culture by rather subtly making a few nods or having a few "insider" gags that don't dominate an episode so much as to being in need for an explanation)
But in the end, most of all, it's just annoying and mostly unfunny.
As 2 1/2 Men, the main failing of the show, imo, is that the characters are just f*ing horrible.
Both Alan from Men and Sheldon from Bang are so stereotypical and downright retarded (not wanting to offend anyone, but especially Sheldon is shown as being an Aspie the same way Cartoons from 1930 or whatever portrayed black people and Nazis portrayed jews) that they are not only unlikable (wich isn't neccessarily a death sentence for a comedy character) but also nerve-wreckingly annoying.
And no character ever seems to really act beyond his limited set of stereotypes. Compare that to the Characters of Spaced, who are also stereotypes but don't act out there stereotypical traits in EVERY.SINGLE.SCENE. Or to The IT Crowd, with Moss being a socially awkward Ultra-Nerd to-the-extreme, but also also often acting in surprising ways depending on the situation.
And the Nerd-Reference-Stuff isn't so much "demeaning", "sterotypical" or even "wrong", but in my opinion mostly meaningless and not-really-funny.
Or even if it's sort of interesting or clever (like there was an episode where the Nerds are in the same train as Summer Glau and awkwardly hitting on her..i think), it feels like it gets pointed out annoyingly (...with one of the Nerds awkwardly having a long winded exposition speech so even the person sitting half-asleep in front of his TV getting why Summer Glau is such an Object of Affection to Nerds) and beaten to death (by having, as far as i remember, almost the entire episode just about that Gag).
And it really starts to annoy me how "real" Nerds tend to be so easily swayed by something that acknowledges stuff they like, even if the reference itself sucks.
I'm still baffled how so many people, for example, liked the World of Warcraft Episode of South Park, wich is in my opinion lazily written (Hurr Durr, WoW Players are Nerdy Fat Blobs that hold thier game to awkward importance).
(Once again, i prefer Spaced and The IT Crowd here for better acknowledging Geek- and Pop-Culture by rather subtly making a few nods or having a few "insider" gags that don't dominate an episode so much as to being in need for an explanation)
But in the end, most of all, it's just annoying and mostly unfunny.