Why do YOU hate racism?
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Surely a thread on "why do you love racism?" is a going to provoke more discussion and pointless pontification. Is there going to be anybody here who will claim anything more interesting than anecdotal diatribe? I don't like racism because it doesn't give people a chance. However, in the amount of times I've been mugged - the majority of it has been at the hands of 15 or so Lebanese boys. Is it racist if I steer clear of them in the street? No. Is it racist if I don't buy a house in a Lebanese area? No. The fact is, race is often mixed with economic standing, and economic standing is relative to crime. I'm saying "avoid the poor people who always mug me due to inexplicable social and masculinity issues" which in this case translates to "ah, don't go down there mate, there are tonnes of lebs." A group of people with a distinct nationality are an easier identifier. That's why "lads/chavs" are called "lads/chavs". They may be white, but we've named them to identify them.
Something I do find ironic though, is the way the "n" word has somehow become paradoxically cool and evil. Double standards are a bizarre thing.
Something I do find ironic though, is the way the "n" word has somehow become paradoxically cool and evil. Double standards are a bizarre thing.
I hate Racism in no small part because Conflicts are about as sacred to me as Sex is to other people. Fighting or even mocking people over petty reasons such as race, religion and, as seen in fora such as this, fandom, cheapens Conflict. Fighting for survival is noble but the racists fear for the survival of an empty concept of 'Race'. 'Race' is just the human equivalent of 'breed'. Poodles aren't genetically superior to Laborador Retrievers and Shelties are not lesser dogs than collies. For that matter, Mutts are some of the best dogs of all.
Just keep the fight honest and leave personal preferences disguised as issues of grave importance out of it.
Just keep the fight honest and leave personal preferences disguised as issues of grave importance out of it.
It is one of the myriad forms of ignorance, all of which grate on me like salt in an open wound.
I'm going to go ahead and say that you're bullshitting us to sound noble, and have no real experience with racism in order to garner a reply from you, because asking you to simply expand on this lofty, feathery, go-with-the-herd statement is too boring.I_LIKE_CAKE said:
Well since I'm part Greek, I have a personal stake against racism since my grandmother came over from Greece to live here. I've never had to deal with racism except for one part of my life where we were under siege from a crooked detective who always called my family "you people".
I'd have to say I hate racism the way I'd hate the symptoms of a nasty disease. It's a sign of ignorance, immaturity, indoctrination, or a combination of the aforementioned; those who've developed (or discovered) a world view that's not so narrow will see through the lies of racism's propagators in a second.
Racism exists because people are scared of differences or things they cannot explain. We would all be racist to aliens from outer space because we would know nothing about them. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. I think Yoda said it best.
People just look for excuses to see how we are all different from one another. Or at least that's how how people have been taught to think. There have been many cases of people of different race co-existing harmonically till some other guy came and told them it's wrong and that they should hate eachother instead. Just look at the Balkans, and it's not even different skin colour here, just different "race". Before the 19th century nationalism, everyone was fine, as long as they were orthodox and not muslim. But that's a different story.
It all begs the question: if, one day, we make contact with aliens, will humans finally see how similar they are and suddenly become "specieist" towards the aliens? One could say however that some sort of specieism is already going on, at the cost of every living thing on earth save humans.
It all begs the question: if, one day, we make contact with aliens, will humans finally see how similar they are and suddenly become "specieist" towards the aliens? One could say however that some sort of specieism is already going on, at the cost of every living thing on earth save humans.
Indeed. And as shown by Will Smith, rapping doesn't have to be about guns, crime, drugs, violence, sexism or the like. It can be about life, joy, pride of one's children, dealing with hardships... it all comes down to the artist and how s/he chooses to move the audience.Booze Zombie said:
The reason I hate racism is because it is just idiots forming opinions and prejudices against people before they even know them.
I think it's totally okay to hate someone of a different race because they're annoying, or an asshole, or psychotic, or really lazy, or they do nothing but complain, or they banged your girlfriend, or any other reason someone can deserve hatred. But I think hating someone BECAUSE they are a different race is stupid.
You don't know them yet, you have nothing to base hatred off of. Give people of different races, creeds, and cultures the same chance to know them as you would anyone who is of the same race, creed, or culture as you. That way you're more likely to find people you truly relate to.
Plus, if you then decide that yes, you really do hate somebody, you'll have much more valid reasons to hate them, making you feel far more justified in your opinion. And when you try to explain or justify your hatred to other people, they won't just immediately think you're a racist and start hating you.
Oh, and when people online use racism? That's just trolling. Respond to it if you wish, Pwn them if you can, and accept that on the internet, people will be so emboldened by their unrestrained anonymity that they will say absolutely anything to get a reaction, no matter what that reaction may be.
I think it's totally okay to hate someone of a different race because they're annoying, or an asshole, or psychotic, or really lazy, or they do nothing but complain, or they banged your girlfriend, or any other reason someone can deserve hatred. But I think hating someone BECAUSE they are a different race is stupid.
You don't know them yet, you have nothing to base hatred off of. Give people of different races, creeds, and cultures the same chance to know them as you would anyone who is of the same race, creed, or culture as you. That way you're more likely to find people you truly relate to.
Plus, if you then decide that yes, you really do hate somebody, you'll have much more valid reasons to hate them, making you feel far more justified in your opinion. And when you try to explain or justify your hatred to other people, they won't just immediately think you're a racist and start hating you.
Oh, and when people online use racism? That's just trolling. Respond to it if you wish, Pwn them if you can, and accept that on the internet, people will be so emboldened by their unrestrained anonymity that they will say absolutely anything to get a reaction, no matter what that reaction may be.
Good, we have an example of an outlier in rap music that isn't about b*tches-cash-cars, even if it is so painfully "pop" that it barely qualifies.HazukiHawkins said:
Why do you think rap lyrics are by and large so self-glorifying, hateful, and survivalist?
Racism is just a way to weed out the biggots in society who believe stereotyping is real.
although I do admit to having a guilty bit of fun of making fun of stereotyping with a close group of friends.
but we all do it because we know that 99% of it is false and it is a bit funny
I think I just contradicted myself in my own reply
although I do admit to having a guilty bit of fun of making fun of stereotyping with a close group of friends.
but we all do it because we know that 99% of it is false and it is a bit funny
I think I just contradicted myself in my own reply
Actually, I was trying to say that it's completely okay to hate the people (or more likely the person), but it's not okay to hate the people just because they are "the people". That, and that you have to know someone before you can truly and legitimately hate them.Ignignoct said:
Right-o.TheBXRabbit said:
Black dude at a Street Fighter IV tournament = Initially judged awesome, awesomeness is pending further investigation.
Black dude rollin' down the street with pants to the knees and shirt to the thighs = judged GTFAFM, until otherwise shown civil/mature.
If it looks, acts, and sounds like a threat, I'm not going to welcome it until it shows me otherwise. THAT'S JUST STRAIGHT-UP, SON! No BS!
These are initial judgments, again, pending further investigation.
Also, we all know British blacks are except from this ruling, as are African immigrants.