Why do you play MMORPG's ?

TheColdHeart

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I play because its a way of keeping in touch with some friends I made playing the game who don't use msn/facebook etc, and its a good way of passing the time when im bored. I really dont 'play' that much I just login and chat.
 

Caliostro

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Padawanabee post=9.72093.747380 said:
My group of friends scattered across the country for college, and the only way to keep in touch was WoW or Facebook. Lesser of two evils.
I'd say otherwise.

- You can customize facebook.
- Facebook is free.
- Facebook is not a job you pay to have.
- If you dislike someone on facebook you can, afaik, add them to a nifty ignore list and be rid of them forever.


As for the topic... When I'm THAT bored that I'll give in to hoping maybe, hypothetically, that next MMO won't be a pile of ass and grind...
 

GothmogII

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Caliostro post=9.72093.747755 said:
Padawanabee post=9.72093.747380 said:
My group of friends scattered across the country for college, and the only way to keep in touch was WoW or Facebook. Lesser of two evils.
I'd say otherwise.

- You can customize facebook.
- Facebook is free.
- Facebook is not a job you pay to have.
- If you dislike someone on facebook you can, afaik, add them to a nifty ignore list and be rid of them forever.


As for the topic... When I'm THAT bored that I'll give in to hoping maybe, hypothetically, that next MMO won't be a pile of ass and grind...

Umm...just a note on the job bit, I have to ask what the people playing it are doing in game that they think it's mandatory that massive amounts of their time be taken up. And two, what people who don't play think people who do play are doing?

*shrug* I don't know, I'm not much of a raider, or a PvP'er, I am, and have been for a while now an RP'er strictly speaking, I like the people I've met, it puts life into the game for me I guess. I like thinking of WoW as a big playground. You can sit in the sandbox building up your castle till your hearts content, just don't forget there are other kids and rides in the playground too.
 

Caliostro

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GothmogII post=9.72093.747905 said:
Umm...just a note on the job bit, I have to ask what the people playing it are doing in game that they think it's mandatory that massive amounts of their time be taken up. And two, what people who don't play think people who do play are doing?
Games have 2 sides: PvP and PvE.

Only reason I play an online game is for the PvP. I have yet to find a single online game with a compelling PvE, so if I want PvE I'll generally play a single player game.

In something like....99% of MMOs today, "PvP" basically means "person a clicks person b, person b clicks person a, both persons proceed to throw all they have at each other, and the one with the highest level and best equipment wins". So basically combat in MMOs really comes down to "who grinded the most".

On the other hand, PvE in MMOs IS grind. There is no compelling story, no argument, no character development... It's just monsters of increasingly bigger health and strength you basically click on till they die... Over, and over, and over, and over, and over the fuck again...

So, and since both PvE and PvP come down to "grind", and grind is the extenuating repetition of the very same motion (click monster -> wait till it dies -> click next monster -> etc), it is basically a job... A shitty job you pay for, or that simply doesn't pay you anything if you're playing a free to play one.

GothmogII post=9.72093.747905 said:
*shrug* I don't know, I'm not much of a raider, or a PvP'er, I am, and have been for a while now an RP'er strictly speaking, I like the people I've met, it puts life into the game for me I guess. I like thinking of WoW as a big playground. You can sit in the sandbox building up your castle till your hearts content, just don't forget there are other kids and rides in the playground too.
Now, don't take this the wrong way, but honestly...I don't get you people... RPers that is...
To me the whole fun in a game is getting away from reality, being able to do the things you can't do in reality (whether that is to drive insane cars really fast, shoot people, do amazing moves...whatever), so the whole fun of the game is PLAY the game and forget about everything that characterizes real life for a moment... RPers seem to be going about it in the exactly opposite direction in my view... They try to add to a game everything you CAN do in real life but instead choose to do in this make belief world...

I mean, role playing is basically pretending to be someone you're not... Not someTHING you're not (like, for instances, a soldier, a race car driver, a jet pilot, an alien genocidal maniac, a test subject...etc), but someONE... So much so that it becomes not about the actual game, but about creating a life around it... And this is the part that, to me, is highly paradoxical and even discombobulated: You go to a game to avoid life, you then (in most cases I've seen) reject what makes a game, a game really, and instead inject your own elements into it to make it more like real life... What am I missing?

If you're capable of spending 8 hours a day pressing the same fucking mouse button and 2 keys, seeing the same 2 animations over, and over, and over, and over, and over again... Wouldn't you be better off doing this at a job somewhere, and instead getting paid for it?
 

GothmogII

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Caliostro post=9.72093.747980 said:
GothmogII post=9.72093.747905 said:
Umm...just a note on the job bit, I have to ask what the people playing it are doing in game that they think it's mandatory that massive amounts of their time be taken up. And two, what people who don't play think people who do play are doing?
Games have 2 sides: PvP and PvE.

Only reason I play an online game is for the PvP. I have yet to find a single online game with a compelling PvE, so if I want PvE I'll generally play a single player game.

In something like....99% of MMOs today, "PvP" basically means "person a clicks person b, person b clicks person a, both persons proceed to throw all they have at each other, and the one with the highest level and best equipment wins". So basically combat in MMOs really comes down to "who grinded the most".

On the other hand, PvE in MMOs IS grind. There is no compelling story, no argument, no character development... It's just monsters of increasingly bigger health and strength you basically click on till they die... Over, and over, and over, and over, and over the fuck again...

So, and since both PvE and PvP come down to "grind", and grind is the extenuating repetition of the very same motion (click monster -> wait till it dies -> click next monster -> etc), it is basically a job... A shitty job you pay for, or that simply doesn't pay you anything if you're playing a free to play one.

GothmogII post=9.72093.747905 said:
*shrug* I don't know, I'm not much of a raider, or a PvP'er, I am, and have been for a while now an RP'er strictly speaking, I like the people I've met, it puts life into the game for me I guess. I like thinking of WoW as a big playground. You can sit in the sandbox building up your castle till your hearts content, just don't forget there are other kids and rides in the playground too.
Now, don't take this the wrong way, but honestly...I don't get you people... RPers that is...
To me the whole fun in a game is getting away from reality, being able to do the things you can't do in reality (whether that is to drive insane cars really fast, shoot people, do amazing moves...whatever), so the whole fun of the game is PLAY the game and forget about everything that characterizes real life for a moment... RPers seem to be going about it in the exactly opposite direction in my view... They try to add to a game everything you CAN do in real life but instead choose to do in this make belief world...

I mean, role playing is basically pretending to be someone you're not... Not someTHING you're not (like, for instances, a soldier, a race car driver, a jet pilot, an alien genocidal maniac, a test subject...etc), but someONE... So much so that it becomes not about the actual game, but about creating a life around it... And this is the part that, to me, is highly paradoxical and even discombobulated: You go to a game to avoid life, you then (in most cases I've seen) reject what makes a game, a game really, and instead inject your own elements into it to make it more like real life... What am I missing?

If you're capable of spending 8 hours a day pressing the same fucking mouse button and 2 keys, seeing the same 2 animations over, and over, and over, and over, and over again... Wouldn't you be better off doing this at a job somewhere, and instead getting paid for it?
Eh? Make it more like real life? Far from it! :D Granted, there are those, who like to roleplay the mundane, but, even say, if you were to RP a baker in WoW, it's still RP'ing a baker in a fantastical world filled with gnomes, dragons, and talking squid.

But, the only problem with it is, MMO's don't have any of these things,such as in-depth baker, in as much as the gameplay is focused on, that's all that's focused on. That's why RP is as it is, you have to make it up, using of course whatever lore is established as needed. I mean, they've set the stage and all, but seem to have forgotten the props.

Not that I'm complaining, I mean...I -like- talking to people, I like emoting that X roasts his marshmallows over the campfire. No, it's not exciting high octane adventure. But so what? I mean, if the complaint is, that the other content, the PvP, the raiding, the grinding is well, a bit crap, then what else would you have people do? Just stand around the auction house all day trading stats? Screw everything else, if I want to use an mmo as some glorified chat-room, that's just what I'll do ;) After all, I'm paying my fee.
 

Sir_Substance

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because i can help people. i join corps and help chaps build stuff, i have a standard "mates rates" approach to building stuff for people. they buy the minerals not minable in high sec space in my current region, as well as the BPC, ill get everything else. it usually ends up being about 1/3 the price for them. i give advice, combat help. im a bleeding heart, and i hate confrontations, so i wander around EVE is a benevolent manufacturer. its something to do with my spare time, and it has the satisfaction that someone, somewhere is going "geez, hes a nice/generous/helpful guy".
 

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I think I must be one of the few people that don't play mmorpgs for the social side. I don't really have any desire to join corps or talk to people in game, my experience is almost entirely PvE.

What I like about online games is that fact that those other people are there. Not everything is scripted, you have thousands of people wondering around doing their own thing, forming alliances, going to war, backstabbing each other, and it actually impacts the game world. I find that makes things a lot more interesting, but otherwise I pretty much play them the same as single player rpgs. Building and training a character is the fun part for me.
 

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I play Star Wars Galaxies and a World of warcraft

Star Wars galaxies cos im a star wars fan boy, and im desperatly hoping theyll fix it and turn it into the original game
WOW i play because its fun, socialable and it kills time.

Hmm its 2am and i cant be assed to sleep. I know, WOW!
 

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H.R.Shovenstuff post=9.72093.747377 said:
D_987 post=9.72093.747367 said:
I don't play MMORPGS, I absolutly hate what they do to people. For example a good friend of mine (in his late teens) plays a games called Runescape, its absolutly pathetic, its all he ever does, and whats even worse - is that is a kids game, and all he does is click on the same thing over and over and over..

I just don't get it....
Runescape is a bad example - it fucking sucks. Excuse my french, but I only use such language because it fucking sucks.
Absolutly