Why does everyone hate Halo?
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I like it because if I want to play an fps every now and then, at least Halo is functional and somewhat enjoyable.
On the other hand, I dislike it because the the characters are cliche, the action is repetitive, and the plot is kind of boring.
On the other hand, I dislike it because the the characters are cliche, the action is repetitive, and the plot is kind of boring.
People hate it because it's popular.
Normally, that would be a pretty petty reason to hate something, but I think it has some justification in Halo's case. A lot of people don't necessarily think it's a bad game, but think that it's far too average to be heaped with so much praise and attention.
It's like if you ate a new brand of chocolate bar that tasted pretty bland, but there were millions of people constantly talking about how it's the best chocolate the world has ever seen. Chances are you'd get a little peeved, not because you hated it, but because you don't understand what all the commotion is about. That's Halo.
Normally, that would be a pretty petty reason to hate something, but I think it has some justification in Halo's case. A lot of people don't necessarily think it's a bad game, but think that it's far too average to be heaped with so much praise and attention.
It's like if you ate a new brand of chocolate bar that tasted pretty bland, but there were millions of people constantly talking about how it's the best chocolate the world has ever seen. Chances are you'd get a little peeved, not because you hated it, but because you don't understand what all the commotion is about. That's Halo.
I love it for the simple reason it still supports split screen and system link in an era when that is seen as surplus to requirements in most games.
Because its popular. For the general answer.
For the personal option, I just dont like it. I dont like xbox gaming since Drake of the 99 Dragons turned me off to it. I mean, I liked halo: CE cause then it was interesting. But after Halo2 it went on a sharp decline into mediocrity, yet people put it on this pedastol of gaming greatness and if you go against it you're no better then those people at Fox News or something.
.... that, and its fans are pretentious pricks that need to either grow up or get outside.
For the personal option, I just dont like it. I dont like xbox gaming since Drake of the 99 Dragons turned me off to it. I mean, I liked halo: CE cause then it was interesting. But after Halo2 it went on a sharp decline into mediocrity, yet people put it on this pedastol of gaming greatness and if you go against it you're no better then those people at Fox News or something.
.... that, and its fans are pretentious pricks that need to either grow up or get outside.
Hehe, thats funny.PeePantz said:
If we left it at that people would have to get along and we can't have that.Littaly said:
OT: There will always be people who hate something for the virtue of its popularity. That forms the largest chunk of the anti-Halo community.
The rest of them played Halo and genuinely did not like it. That is a very small fraction.
I'm not a fan, but I wouldn't say I hate Halo.
I do hate how many people prop it up as the most innovative and original FPS of all time, which really just betrays a complete ignorance of the entire PC FPS scene.
And I do hate how many games ape the basic gameplay mechanics (recharging health, limited weapon slots). I've enjoyed such things in games, but these mechanics have a very marked effect on the game being played. Limited weapon slots tends to encourage really conservative weapon options (part of the fun of unique weapons is playing around with them in different circumstances, which is a luxury you can ill-afford when it takes up half your weapon slots), while recharging health can easily drain every last bit of tension out of a game if it's too easy to hide behind a wall until you feel better.
My criticism of Halo: CE really comes down to two things. Level design that doesn't rise above okay (confusing lay-outs further complicated by a lack of variety in wall textures) and fairly slow combat (I personally love a game filled with one-shot/one-kill cannon fodder enemies, which makes the combat feel much faster paced). I eventually just got bored with the game and gave up even before the oft-criticized Library level. These two criticisms don't make Halo a bad game, merely one that isn't too my taste.
But I think if you cut to the chase, I think people don't so much Halo as they hate the more moronic elements of Halo fandom. Having a very loud, ignorant, vocal group going around dismissing a lot of games that were far more innovative and original than Halo creates a certain amount of misplaced annoyance that gets directed at the game.
I do hate how many people prop it up as the most innovative and original FPS of all time, which really just betrays a complete ignorance of the entire PC FPS scene.
And I do hate how many games ape the basic gameplay mechanics (recharging health, limited weapon slots). I've enjoyed such things in games, but these mechanics have a very marked effect on the game being played. Limited weapon slots tends to encourage really conservative weapon options (part of the fun of unique weapons is playing around with them in different circumstances, which is a luxury you can ill-afford when it takes up half your weapon slots), while recharging health can easily drain every last bit of tension out of a game if it's too easy to hide behind a wall until you feel better.
My criticism of Halo: CE really comes down to two things. Level design that doesn't rise above okay (confusing lay-outs further complicated by a lack of variety in wall textures) and fairly slow combat (I personally love a game filled with one-shot/one-kill cannon fodder enemies, which makes the combat feel much faster paced). I eventually just got bored with the game and gave up even before the oft-criticized Library level. These two criticisms don't make Halo a bad game, merely one that isn't too my taste.
But I think if you cut to the chase, I think people don't so much Halo as they hate the more moronic elements of Halo fandom. Having a very loud, ignorant, vocal group going around dismissing a lot of games that were far more innovative and original than Halo creates a certain amount of misplaced annoyance that gets directed at the game.
Well I initially hated it due to hype, that only lasted until... well it's still going.
But after I played it the hate went away, it was replaced by wonder, why does anyone think this is the sh*t?
Was the xbox really that short on games back then that this was praised into heaven?
To me the game is just very gray, characters are flat, the moods swing from serious to silly so quick the whole things feels like a self parody, even the opposing army seems to be a mix of silly and angry clowns(always made me wonder if the war isn't just over who threw the first pie).
But after I played it the hate went away, it was replaced by wonder, why does anyone think this is the sh*t?
Was the xbox really that short on games back then that this was praised into heaven?
To me the game is just very gray, characters are flat, the moods swing from serious to silly so quick the whole things feels like a self parody, even the opposing army seems to be a mix of silly and angry clowns(always made me wonder if the war isn't just over who threw the first pie).
i don't HATE it, i just don't see anything to like in it. it's ok, but... how to sum it up... dull. dull. unbearably dull. i played the first 3 and thought meh for each one, there was nothing which made me think it was awesome. the multiplayer i wasn't too keen on either, again nothing inherently wrong with it, i just didn't find it exciting.
the only reason i might hate it. the fanboys it spawns.
the only reason i might hate it. the fanboys it spawns.
It ruin shooters for me, halo was the game that started the regenerative health in games. And I hate regenerative health it makes for boring combat.
I have no problem with people liking it as I can see why people would find it fun. But for me halo will always be associated with the end of FPS that I liked.
I have no problem with people liking it as I can see why people would find it fun. But for me halo will always be associated with the end of FPS that I liked.
I just don't find it fun. Halo 2 was alright, but the rest weren't that great, IMHO.
Too many of my fights were virtually the exact same.
Too many of my fights were virtually the exact same.
Its because it's just all been done before. I haven't played them but it looks like (and is from what my friends with Xboxes have told me) a slightly rubbish CoD. With aliens.
And it's an exclusive, so people who can't buy it tend to hate it. Like LittleBig Planet or Wii Sports.
And it's an exclusive, so people who can't buy it tend to hate it. Like LittleBig Planet or Wii Sports.
It's because Master Chief is a space marine who speaks rarely as opposed to a bespectacled man who speaks never. If he was the latter, the series would be largely considered "genius" and "a triumph of game design."
Joking aside, it seems to be that the hate for Halo stems from many people finding the series itself to be decent or good, but nowhere near great, and being frustrated by the heaps of praise and financial success it attains.
It doesn't help that a portion of the fans are douchebags, though I would think that every series of first-person shooters has its fair share of extremely obnoxious asswipes.
Joking aside, it seems to be that the hate for Halo stems from many people finding the series itself to be decent or good, but nowhere near great, and being frustrated by the heaps of praise and financial success it attains.
It doesn't help that a portion of the fans are douchebags, though I would think that every series of first-person shooters has its fair share of extremely obnoxious asswipes.
There's always that, but I find that a large chunk of that attitude stems from people who genuinely don't understand what all the fuss is about. Doesn't matter if it's Call Of Duty, Half-Life, Doom, Duke 3D, Fallout 3, Bioshock, or whatever... there is always going to be a small percentage of people who genuinely dislike the game.emeraldrafael said:
If 1% of the customer base dislike the game and you sell 8 million copies (plus whatever the used market is), that's 80,000 people who didn't like it. The more successful the game, the bigger that figure. Call Of Duty is easily the most criticized game here, which isn't surprising considering the franchise regularly sells in excess of 15 million copies.
But Halo fans do seem to be the most sensitive to criticism, seemingly blind to the massive amount of threads started that criticize the Half-Life and CoD franchises.
People don't hate the series, they hate the fanbase that spawned off the series.
That fanbase hate seems to be moving towards the COD crowd though.
That fanbase hate seems to be moving towards the COD crowd though.
"Why does everyone hate Halo"? Seriously? You realize it's one of the best selling game franchises of all time, right? What a ridiculous thread.
you know who else that could be applied to?Daystar Clarion said:
well besides the obvious gordon freeman, the doom guy, and quite a few others, are that exact way, yet people claim to orgy over them for no reason.
OT: i think the games are some good unrealistic fun, the co op is a blast with friends and i really like the balance of shield vs. health that it has, its probably my favorite in that category.
the books i try not to group together with the games, but i fucking loved those, so i suppose because of halo CE i got into the books in the first place though..
I personally don't hate it. In fact I have played and enjoyed all the games except Wars and ODST. The problem I have with it is it doesn't do anything special. Yeh the first one was different from everything that came before but now its just the same (relatively good) stuff. Nothing new or innovative about it.
I love it. But not because of the gameplay mostly, i love the story! Insane right? Well even though its unoriginal as hell, I love Sci-fi and Halo just somehow rubs me the right way.