Why does everyone love Bioshock?

[neonsword13-ops]

Fallout 3's story was fairly average now that I look back on it.

I just think it's cool. I mean, who doesn't want to shooter bees from their hand while spraying a flamethrower? That just sounds like a load of fun. The music was fantastic, too.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

*Ahem*. NO! You are not the only one who thought it was "deeply average", you're NEVER the only one. I know of alot of people who doesn't like it, and the reason alot of people like it, is because it is a generally good game, regardless of your opinion of it. Your opinion is your opinion, but the only people your opinion matters to, are yourself or people in your close circle.

Seriously, you guys need to learn that "Am I the only one" is a figure of speech. You don't need to take it so literally.

 

[CannibalCorpses]

Try playing with the Vita Chambers turned off. It's what I do.

I didn't know you could do that! I might borrow it off my mate and give it another try, i never did finish all the achievements off.

 

[CannibalCorpses]

well..it was pretty nice. but if you ever played system shock 2, you probably will only have a tired smile left for the consolized, dumped down experience that is bioshock. don't get me wrong, it's still a very good game. not great perhaps, but very good. a lot deeper than what console players usually get served. pc players who remember the hayday of deep games know what i'm talking about though when i say that it's not as big a deal as it gets made out to be nowadays.

Don't like consoles then? I'm getting this slight hint...

I play GAMES lol, not PCs or CONSOLES...it's like tech-racism or something phhht.

My mate is the same and then gets all excited when Saint's row comes out

 

[chstens]

*Ahem*. NO! You are not the only one who thought it was "deeply average", you're NEVER the only one. I know of alot of people who doesn't like it, and the reason alot of people like it, is because it is a generally good game, regardless of your opinion of it. Your opinion is your opinion, but the only people your opinion matters to, are yourself or people in your close circle.

Seriously, you guys need to learn that "Am I the only one" is a figure of speech. You don't need to take it so literally.

It's overused. It has overstayed its welcome, it's up there with Yo Mama jokes, hell, it's up there with "Why do people like so much?", which this thread incidentally is, so double yay. In all seriousness, though, people like different things, and that's the answer to 90% of question about movies, games, TV series or books you'll ever encounter.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

Also, the ghosts were never explained.

The story, if you think about

Spoiler: it

Fontaine's horrible and very unlikely to succeed plan to get Ryan

doesn't make much sense.

Since when did ghosts need to be explained? There ghost the only thing explained about them normally in anything is their dead.

I don't know what you mean by the story doesn't make sense?

Spoiler

The only part I am confused about was why was jack sent to the surface?

The game had a very scientific view IMO (non-religious) and ghosts just don't fit in with science, and the game never gave a scientific explanation.

Spoiler: Massive Spoilers

First of all, Ryan knew about the brainwashing. So Ryan could've used the "would you kindly" thing on Jack to make Jack not kill him. Fontaine might've not known Ryan knew about though so that's not that big of deal. However, Fontaine had to have known about the vita-chambers and how they tied to Ryan's DNA. So even if Ryan let Jack kill him, Ryan wouldn't have died. I know Ryan destroyed his vita-chamber for some reason, which wasn't explained. However, there is no way Fontaine could've known Ryan destroyed his vita-chamber because there is no reason for Ryan to have done that. Also, it is not really explained why Ryan wanted to die (you can imply things) but there would be no way Fontaine would've known that Ryan did want to die. Plus, Ryan wanting to die doesn't fit in with his objectivism philosophy. It would've been much easier to come up with a plan to poison Ryan's food or water supply (since the vita-chamber only works when getting killed by physical attacks) instead of coming up with some out-there and very time consuming plan of brainwashing Ryan's son and getting him to kill him like 20 years down the road. Fontaine's whole plan was incredibly ill-conceived and had a very low chance of success.

 

[Wuggy]

My guess is because a lot of people like the game and not everyone have the same taste as you.

 

[Justice4L]

Nothing personal, I just came across that clip and wanted to use it somewhere.

Anyways; I thought the game was better than average, despite it's flaws. It's certinly better than the generic brown shooter... and it's not like people haven't praised Fallout/ME like obsessed.

Spoiler: As a bonus

I think the praise goes too far when one reviewer said that Bioshock was not a game, but a work of art. Seriously?

 

[weker]

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I played on the hardest difficulty on my second playthrough and was bored out of my mind. Fallout and Mass Effect have deep worlds with amazing characters with so much to do. Bioshock is a corridor shooter with slightly wider, retraceable corridors. Mass Effect and Fallout have moral decisions that completely change the story. You can focus in guns or speech and much more. In Bioshock the only moral dilemma is whether to kill Little Sisters or not which just amounts to a different ending (all of which were pretty stupid). Whether you kill or save them, your game will still play the same way.

However with Fallout it's a case of turn on vats to win and for ME it's just an average cover shooter with tacked on RPG elements,I will admit their are more options then just shoot person in face in fallout and mass effect SOME OF THE TIME. I think your kinda ignore ME and Fallouts faults but highlighting Bioshocks. I am not trying to say you opinion on the game is bad and you must enjoy it, I am just trying to show you why its enjoyed so much.

 

[Justice4L]

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I played on the hardest difficulty on my second playthrough and was bored out of my mind. Fallout and Mass Effect have deep worlds with amazing characters with so much to do. Bioshock is a corridor shooter with slightly wider, retraceable corridors. Mass Effect and Fallout have moral decisions that completely change the story. You can focus in guns or speech and much more. In Bioshock the only moral dilemma is whether to kill Little Sisters or not which just amounts to a different ending (all of which were pretty stupid). Whether you kill or save them, your game will still play the same way.

However with Fallout it's a case of turn on vats to win and for ME it's just an average cover shooter with tacked on RPG elements,I will admit their are more options then just shoot person in face in fallout and mass effect SOME OF THE TIME. I think your kinda ignore ME and Fallouts faults but highlighting Bioshocks. I am not trying to say you opinion on the game is bad and you must enjoy it, I am just trying to show you why its enjoyed so much.

I'm not saying that I hate Bioshock, I still think it had its ups, it just wasn't a 10/10 game, well not even a 8/10 game in my opinion. I don't know how much Fallout or ME you've played, but they are incredibly deep and have 100's of ways to play it. Sure, in Bioshock you can choose between burning your foes or freezing them, but they will die no matter what. I expect RPGs do be a bit deeper than "kill him with wasps or kill him with poison."

 

[Von Dean]

The story, if you think about

Spoiler: it

Fontaine's horrible and very unlikely to succeed plan to get Ryan

doesn't make much sense.
Since when did ghosts need to be explained? There ghost the only thing explained about them normally in anything is their dead.

I don't know what you mean by the story doesn't make sense?

Spoiler

The only part I am confused about was why was jack sent to the surface?

It's all part of the manipulation,to get someone to do everthing you want you have to make them believe that it's what they want to do,that it's their choice. By taking Jack to the surface then forcibly returning him to Rapture he would percieve his actions as a result of circumstance and not the manipulation of an evil guiding hand

 

[skywolfblue]

Why do people love it?

- Artwork/Atmosphere. Rapture is a beautiful place, and the steampunk art style is awesome.

- Story/Political Setting. Very very very few games ever actually bother with building an interesting society around the player (Most games just go "ohey, look! Russians! they're bad guys!").

- Gameplay. I'm referring to BioShock2 for this part, as being unable to use weapons and plasmids simultaneously in BioShock1 was absolutely miserable. Plasmids offer a lot of variety, and traps offered a whole lot of strategic setup for the harder fights.

 

[Macgyvercas]

Try playing with the Vita Chambers turned off. It's what I do.

I didn't know you could do that! I might borrow it off my mate and give it another try, i never did finish all the achievements off.

If you have the PS3 version, that option was included with the game on release. If you have the Xbox/PC version, I am 99% certain that the ability to turn the chambers off was included in a patch (at the least, I know it was patched to be able to turn them off in the Xbox version).

 

[ssgt splatter]

I enjoyed it.
Good gameplay, excellent story, cool powers and guns, realistic enemy reactions(getting shot or set on fire)I really loved this game.

 

[Jaffinnegan]

I really loved Bioshock in every way, up to the Most Epic part in the game (A Man Chooses, A Slave Obeys scene), and then, after reaching its MASSIVE peak of Amazingness, it turns really shit, boring, and stressful for the next 3 hours of gameplay, AND you get a Shit ending.

 

[Zhukov]

It's one of my all-time favourites. So yeah...

Look, I'd never say it's a perfect game. The balance was off, the moral choice business was clumsy, the final act was rushed and the action certainly isn't the best you'll ever see. If you got the game purely for the sake of shooting things then you may well end up a bit disappointed.

But the story. Oh, the story. I will endure a lot of not-that-great-but-still-pretty-fun gameplay for the sake of a well-written and clever story. Which Bioshock had. In fact, I'm going to go one step further and be an insufferable, elitist tosser by saying the following: anyone who doesn't appreciate Bioshock's story on some level probably just isn't intelligent enough.

So there.

*deploys flameshield*

 

[Kathinka]

well..it was pretty nice. but if you ever played system shock 2, you probably will only have a tired smile left for the consolized, dumped down experience that is bioshock. don't get me wrong, it's still a very good game. not great perhaps, but very good. a lot deeper than what console players usually get served. pc players who remember the hayday of deep games know what i'm talking about though when i say that it's not as big a deal as it gets made out to be nowadays.

Don't like consoles then? I'm getting this slight hint...

I play GAMES lol, not PCs or CONSOLES...it's like tech-racism or something phhht.

My mate is the same and then gets all excited when Saint's row comes out

its not that i don't like consoles, or console players. both are perfectly fine and equal and have their place.

what i don't like is what consoles have done and do to the developement of pc gaming. sucky p2p-networking in mw, no prone in bc2 due to limited controls on console pads, elimination of inventory and xp elements in bioshock, stuff like that...

 

[CardinalPiggles]

I like how Bioshock is a game that lives on for debate long after it's release, doesn't that say anything about it's quality?

To answer your question, I personally though the game was amazing, every RPG aspect was brilliant, every FPS aspect however was mediocre. Oh and FYI the guns felt clunky and slow because of the time period it was set in. It was good for immersion.

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What an anagram.

 

[CardinalPiggles]

I really loved Bioshock in every way, up to the Most Epic part in the game (A Man Chooses, A Slave Obeys scene), and then, after reaching its MASSIVE peak of Amazingness, it turns really shit, boring, and stressful for the next 3 hours of gameplay, AND you get a Shit ending.

This is why I stopped playing the game after that point. Makes me appreciate the game a whole lot more.