Why does nobody fight Lord Voldemort?

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Simon Pettersson said:
Jack the Potato said:
What I don't get is why the prime minister of the UK knew about Voldemort but didn't get the SAS to snipe him or cut his throat. Last I checked, wizards weren't immune to bullets.
Uhm yeah how are you gonna find the guy first of all? He really don´t show him self for Mugger(spell?). And even if you found him getting in close to knife him would be like getting a black guy in to a white power rally.

Maybe they could snipe him I don´t know if he really have any defence against that. Except that his surrounded by Death eaters and rarely shows him self for the snipers.

Edit: wow thats why I thought it was bad spelling moggles and muggers are completley different :p
As are muggles which is what you are going for as I am certainly not a moogle.
 

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TheTaco007 said:
And also that fact that he could slaughter anyone in 10 seconds flat?
This, and not to mention he had a pretty ginormous league of Death Eaters ready to torture you and kill off your entire family if you even thought about trying it. But there were plenty who tried, ever heard of The First Wizarding War? (Wow, I feel... so cool right now...)
 

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Simon Pettersson said:
Jack the Potato said:
What I don't get is why the prime minister of the UK knew about Voldemort but didn't get the SAS to snipe him or cut his throat. Last I checked, wizards weren't immune to bullets.
Uhm yeah how are you gonna find the guy first of all? He really don´t show him self for Mugger(spell?). And even if you found him getting in close to knife him would be like getting a black guy in to a white power rally.

Maybe they could snipe him I don´t know if he really have any defence against that. Except that his surrounded by Death eaters and rarely shows him self for the snipers.

Edit: wow thats why I thought it was bad spelling moggles and muggers are completley different :p
Fine, have the SAS or MI6 or whatever follow Harry around discreetly and pop a cap in the ass of anyone who attacks him.
 

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AtheistConservative said:
Fair enough, although given that the wizarding world obviously has some contact with the outside world, the fact that they lack real world objects that are superior to their stuff is beyond me. Why send an owl instead of text?

Additionally guns aren't really high tech, assault rifles are actually closing in on 100 years old http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedorov_Avtomat and supersonic bullets have been around since at least the American Revolution.
My guess it's a question about how their society evolved. We know that the wizarding world is very removed from normal society. Few Wizards mingle with "the muggles", and it will stay that way because their cultures are very different. The Wizarding world has eolved independently of the real world, and that means a whole different set of technology. Wizards can do so many things with the wave of a wand, so where the real world would invent something to make life easier, the wizards would have a spekk for it instead. As a consequence, a whole lot of the things we take for granted in the real world, is not used by the wizards, simply because they dont need it. And that's why they dont have guns. It will simply not occur to them, if they even know of their existence.
 

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Glademaster said:
As are muggles which is what you are going for as I am certainly not a moogle.
I hate the Wizard language .....




Jack the Potato said:
Simon Pettersson said:
Jack the Potato said:
What I don't get is why the prime minister of the UK knew about Voldemort but didn't get the SAS to snipe him or cut his throat. Last I checked, wizards weren't immune to bullets.
Uhm yeah how are you gonna find the guy first of all? He really don´t show him self for Mugger(spell?). And even if you found him getting in close to knife him would be like getting a black guy in to a white power rally.

Maybe they could snipe him I don´t know if he really have any defence against that. Except that his surrounded by Death eaters and rarely shows him self for the snipers.

Edit: wow thats why I thought it was bad spelling moggles and muggers are completley different :p
Fine, have the SAS or MI6 or whatever follow Harry around discreetly and pop a cap in the ass of anyone who attacks him.
I wouldn´t want that job >.<
The kid has a coat that makes him invisible and they can teleport.
 

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Voldemorts power came from his death eaters (mainly) They are not immortal. Just mow those fuckers down and leave him alone against a whole horde of teachers and students. Yeah, he is invincible, but harry and those lads were destroying his horcruxes. If you destroyed his body he would be helpless. Harry then could destroy them things and ta-daaah! Crisis averted!

Also the president of the Uk knew the existence of Voldie. So why the hell didn't he just send an elite team and get it over with? After the operation their memories could be wiped.
 

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BabyRaptor said:
Um, other than him being immortal until all the Horcruxes were destroyed?
But surely if you just 'killed' him, then that chunk of soul would 'die', and it'd be back like at the start of the series. Then just bring him back and kill him again until it was all gone? Have I missed something, or do wizards lack that logic?
 

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Voldemort still needs air to breathe though. There could be a way to trick him into stepping in a vacuum chamber.

And then we'd fill that chamber with hot, liquid metal to encase him for the rest of his live, immortal or not. Maybe even throw him into the sun like Superman does.
 

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They should use a Muggle-going-away-stick...like an AK-47.
It takes about 1 second to say "Avada kedavra" and i can fire 600 rounds a minute, ive emptied 1/3 of my clip into your face before you can finish your spell.

GG Voldemort
 

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doggie015 said:
I think they lack that logic... Just look at how flimsy the quiddich arenas are! (Except for the most expensive Olympic-grade ones!)
or just the quidditch scoring rules, which are determinedly rubbish... if they made the snitch worth 30 points, then fine, that might work, as 3 goals in that isn't too much of an ask, but 15? also, why all multiples of 10? it means you have an extra digit on the end of the scoreboard, which seems all rigged to work, but is perpetually stuck at 0...
maybe the best way to have killed voldemort would have been to make him consider the rules of quidditch, though in the wizard world, they never do any excercise (or any lessons other than bloated magical crap), so he'd no doubt die from a coronary at some point...
 

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Because.. because....... No idea. HEY WAIT A MINUTE! Didn't the last HP movie come out around the same time as we killed Osama??????? COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT.
 

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Abandon4093 said:
Jacco said:
Because wizards aren't the smartest of people. Let me just say he's lucky he started his shit in Britain and not North America. No offense to the Brirs, but us North Americans would have done it right the first time. Lol
I'd just like to point out that the real people who live in Britain at the minute don't actually skip around old medival schools with elegant robes and little twigs.
Except for expensive private schools of course.

OT: Alright, guns are useless and he's immortal. What about a crucio spell? Imperio? Is he immune to those too? Couldn't I surprise him with a nice little torture session from behind? And since he's immortal I could keep him under torture forever and he wouldn't even be able to die.
Can't I imperio him and, like, get him to assemble all his death eaters for me to kill/imprison and then somehow get rid of the Dark Lord?
 

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It's kind of like saying why doesn't anybody fight Sauron. Well, then again...pretty much every hero in Middle Earth slapped Sauron around like their ***** back when he was Morgoth's henchman (in the Silmarillion) - but back then his only real power was shapeshifting, and then one of the elven heroes smacked him up badly enough that he couldn't even do that anymore. Ok, why doesn't anybody fight Sauron AFTER he's pulled the stunt with the rings, turning himself more powerful than Morgoth even was? Well, then again, they sort of did, and chopped off his hand with the one ring and killed his mortal form...

...dang it....why doesn't anyone occupy Mordor after defeating Sauron the first time and wipe out the orcs, or at least stop them from re-organising? That's sort of similar - they don't do it because it's an impossible death-trap where the very land takes the side of the orcs. Then again, they do go into Mordor near the end once the one ring gets destroyed...


....darn it these LoTR/Potter comparisons are hard to make work!

Mind you, it does show how Tolkein didn't need HIS bad guy to have any namby pamby plot armour, just badass history and lore to the point where the reader doesn't question it (/sticks tongue out at Potter fans).
 

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There is a lot of "People don't fight him because he haz dem horcruxes, but correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this a pretty uncommonly known fact? I mean, not even Dumbledore was certain until it was confirmed with Slughorn's own memories, something the general wizard population hardly had access to.
 

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BabyRaptor said:
Um, other than him being immortal until all the Horcruxes were destroyed?
How many people knew that, though? I mean, honestly, that was one of the big reveals that only one of the good guys even suspected up until the sixth book, after he had died, stayed "dead" for over a decade, then come back.

He couldn't be killed permanently, but that's little reason that nobody would try to fight back. Especially since that was kind of a secret. He didn't even tell the people guarding those Horcruxes what their importance was.
 

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Vortigar said:
It's illegal to own a gun in any shape or form in the UK. So there's a moral quandary there.
Very Very Wrong. If you have a license you may own a wepon pertaining to that weapon, gun clubs for wepons specifically designed for shooting at targets, and then a wide range of very specific weapons calibres and designs for hunting and pest control. Hell license for shotguns don't really have a lower age limit.

I suspect looking at the magics potrayed in the books (bridges were destroyed, tornadoes called up) that sort of thing, and that there were magical shields avaliable, that firearms just werent worth the effort, and so people just didnt bother to set up spells to protect against him.

Also as has been said just getting to him was virtually impossible. Imagine trying to get a sniper shot on the president of the US if he never makes public apperances. Or any other form of shot off given that, that he's got a bodyguard, can read minds, and has an array of spells and magical devices that can detect if anyone is about to attack him.

As for poor tech, you have to be kidding, they had things that outway most of our tech, they just used some sparingly. They had video coms, they have instant travel, and peronal flight, chores are pretty much non existant relitive to us and our best labour saving tech.
 

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Asita said:
Easy. He utterly horrified everyone. Remember, in his initial run he'd built up such a reputation that people were still afraid to speak his name...a fear that continued over a decade after he supposedly died. He was considered one of the most powerful wizards in history and the most evil one in centuries.
Actually that's something that always struck me about the first book- he was said to be the most powerful wizard in... what was it, 100 years? Can you imagine how bad whoever it was that was around 100 years ago must have been?
 

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Voldemort is immortal via the Horcruxes, he's the most powerful dark wizard in history, he has quite a large security detail, if your mind has any hint of corruption, you will stop attacking Voldemort, and join his ranks against your will with a curse I forget the name of.

And if you get within 100 miles of him, his thousands upon thousands of troops will fire the death curse at you. Imagine 10,000 death curses barreling toward you. You can't run.
 

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It's worth noting that the killing curse is just the only curse which is unblockable and impossible to survive, no matter what you do.
It's by no means the only way to kill someone, Pettigrew (a pretty shitty wizard by most standards) successfully blows up a street with a simple curse and kills a good lot of people.

The crap of using a gun is he probably has a shield up all the time, the guy's cunning as anything and not to be taken lightly, if he didn't have a shield up a wizard could assassinate him from 1000 yards just as easily after all.
As for shielding spells being visible that clearly isn't the case, Hogwarts is constantly under several protection spells, Watson casts a ton when they set up camp. Neither has any visible impact, the great shield was different.

As to the OP, well it's been said people are shit scared of him and rightly so. Some people do fight and they almost all died. Moody was meant to be an extremely powerful auror and he didn't even slow the big V down. He took on several powerful wizards at once with seeming ease and dismissed them the same, he duelled Dumbledore to a draw despite lacking the elder wand for chrissakes.