Why does old music equal superiority?

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ImSkeletor

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It is because looking back people only remember the good bands and songs from that time period and forget about all of the bad because that is more forgetable. So when they listen to todays music they hear both the good music and the okay, bad, and even terrible music that comes out, so they have a far more negative opinion of todays music then that of the 80's and before.
 

Naheal

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bahumat42 said:
Naheal said:
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Naheal said:
The only reason why the older music is considered good is because most of the shit music that was made in those days has been filtered out by now. Give it about five years and you'll see that happen to the pop scene today.
see you say that but 90's has been remembered just as cheese (which is fun when your out on the town but ultimately not "good")
I counter with Gangsta's Paradise.

true I made a blanket statement, I won't deny there are some gems in the rough but it doesn't redeem the decade.
S&M in the late nineties. I can go on if you'd like. Seriously, though, this is the same phenomenon that I noted earlier.
 

Scars Unseen

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Macgyvercas said:
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Because the older music has the Beatles. And today's music (with it's arsenal of Miley Cyrus and Justin Bieber) can't even begin to hold a candle to the Beatles, the Eagles, CCR, and Bon Jovi, amoung countless others.
On the other hand, we have Porcupine Tree, Opeth, The Mars Volta, and Frost*.
Is it bad that I've never heard of any of those bands?
Allow me to remedy that for you:

 

Scars Unseen

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by the way, anyone that thinks that the commercialization of music is anything new should go listen to Rush's Spirit of the Radio.
 

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It's strange, though, since all of that music from the 60's/70's and 80's are just played like the classics they are everywhere You're hardly being non-conformist if you listen to Classic rock from your parent's childhoods.

Plus, as always, if you look in the same genres that those bands played in then, and see the new generation of bands that were not only influenced by them, but also do their own works, its some amazing stuff.

If anyone ever says that "music these days sucks" they're not looking hard enough, or are too lazy to listen to anything besides what they already listen to.

For example I leave you with The Black Keys, hardly a underground or unknown band, a sample from their 2010 album, Brothers. Very much in the same vane as the music that all those people obsessed with the old stuff listen to.

 

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There is no such thing as Good music.
There is no such thing as Bad music.
All music is a matter of personal taste.
No exceptions
 

2012 Wont Happen

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Well, the rejection of popular music most likely started out as a legitimate rejection of the auto-tuned formula created songs regurgitated ad nauseum on the radio.

Then somebody figured out other people would think they were cool if they disliked popular music, and it all went to hell from there.
 

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Scars Unseen said:
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Beethoven's music makes plants grow much quicker...so yeah, I feel much superior, because I know something else on me is growing bigger too and I'm listening to a contributing music.

EDIT: I just realized how dirty the first part sounded...
On a MythBusters episode, death metal worked better for plants than classical.
As much as I love Mythbusters, one 'event' out of a thousand isn't enough for it to be classified as 'correct'. Yes, it was stated as 'plausible' in the show, and that's what we should consider as.
 

LitleWaffle

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I've met those people, and they can get fairly frustrating.

Personally, I like soft rock or some rock between heavy and soft. Pretty much anything heavier than that and it just sounds like some person with a sore throat screaming into a microphone with unfitting music.

I also like a bunch of other things, but more basically some techno, a bunch of music with different languages, such as german, spanish, and japaneese, orchestra, jazz, blues, and some bands that i'm not sure what i would classify them as.

Just not heavy metal...


 
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Because what do the kids really know, eh?

OT: They don't have a right, although David Bowie is pretty awesome.

PeePantz said:
Older music tends to inspire or be a base for newer music. I really enjoy whiskey and I prefer it not to be tainted with flavors like maple syrup (i.e. Amber). Sometimes changing something or adding to it, doesn't make it necessarily better.
Also, due to the internet, any asshole can get his/her music "out there". The market is so saturated with talentless hacks that I can say music is worse than it was. In much better words, music is much more accessible, thus creating a very low standard. Before, one had to be considered the best in order to be heard. Although there was terrible music still being played, the standard was much higher. One can also attribute this to the death of radio.
There is also way too much technology in music today. It seems that everything has been synthesized, has a computer created beat, and is autotuned. Music has lost a lot of it's "soul" and people with computer skills instead of actual musical talents are creating a new generation of shitty music.

TL;DR: Technology destroyed music.
While I agree with some of what you say, I do not agree with most of it. I don't believe that electronic music has no soul. Have you heard Aphex twin? Have you heard of Brian Eno? Caribou? Animal Collective? Go look at those artists and tell me electronic music has no soul.

I wouldn't say that there is too much music technology today, because if you will you allow me to paraphrase Yahtzee: "As technology increases, the potential for a song only gets better". I think what music tech does to people is it makes un-creativity far more obvious. Since people usually have low standards, music tech makes it easier for people to acheive their low expectations. I would say that the problem is not with music technology, but with most of the artists using it. I would not say that a technology, such has autotune is bad, but i would say it has a very specific set of uses, and that when it is as used as it is today, it becomes very tacky. But I wouldn't say that technology has made music worse. I would say it has made the potential for music better.

Also before you say things like what you said, I would suggests listening to more stuff. It's true, there is a fair amount of bad music, but only in certain places. I would listen to more music before you say everything now a days is computerized and autotuned. I would also listen to more music before you say things like music has lost a lot of it soul.
 

FinalHeart95

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The only old stuff that people still listen to is good stuff.

30 years from now, no one will be listening to Ke$ha.
 

ProfessorLayton

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To be honest, I think a lot of it is a matter of kids trying to be a part of the anti-culture. But the thing is, when you've got junk like this...


...I can see where they're coming from... but to be honest, these are huge generalizations. You've got to remember, this...


... also came out this year. And by "this year" I mean that CD came out two weeks ago.

Another thing you've got to remember is that just because something is old doesn't make it good. You can't just say that every song made in the 80's is good, because that's simply not true.
 

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insaneHoshi said:
Because most 'Music' Today is manufactured, auto-tuned crap
While this is true, it generally comes down to preference. I like some music today if it has a good tune.
 

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Can we change the title of the thread to "Old music ON VINYL equals superiority"

Fact of the matter...CD's suck... you're lucky if you get two thirds of the full analogue harmonic range that's available from vinyl.. and the range you do get is just the middle bit...forget upper and lower frequency... AND GUESS WHAT PEOPLE... those missing bits are the very bit that fire off the chemical reactions in the brain.. REAL music with an analogue frequency is actually mood altering..The digital crap you listen to now is harmonically as flat as a pancake and just as dull.

Also it's no use going in to a studio to press NEW vinyl.. because the music is still mastered digitally.. albeit with a slightly higher frequency range (before being downsampled to CD).. so you still don't use all of the 'available bandwidth', so to speak, of a vinyl platter...... Finally you need analogue speakers.

Oh.. and for the people about to pip in with.. "..but you can't hear the missing harmonic frequency anyway, so it doesn't matter..!!"......it doesn't matter if you can CONSCIOUSLY hear it.. it's only at certain high and low frequencies that certain brain chemicals are produced and it's THOSE that dictate the effects the music will have on you.

Digital music is music with all the soul taken out.
 

OrokuSaki

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I'm going to go with the fact that most old music is well....... dead. I mean, if the beetles were to be alive, they'd probably be doing generally what modern pop sounds like now, and people would hate it. Then I'd finally be done having to hear about how great they are..... but back to my original point, bands like Nirvana get an easy out because they've died BEFORE their music could become an abomination which would get them shunned. While modern bands, who shall remain nameless *Cough cough LINKIN PARK cough* are still making music even though they've alienated most of their fans to play the boring monotonous garbage you'd expect to hear come out of the mouth of George Bush.(Sorry if that's too American for you, but I'm not great with other cultures. So it's not that old music is better, it's that it's had enough time to gather a large number of fans, then get out before they fucked it all up. Excuse the overlong rant.
 

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DesiPrinceX09 said:
Its because these people grew up with it and when new stuff comes up its not that good to them.

But honestly, some artists, if not most, early works are their worst, they take one or two albums more to get good.
 

Vault101

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Its simple because peolple with alot of nostalga lack persepective
 

QuiB25

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Older stuff is good for its outright influence on later music, but what all these 40 something year olds blinded by nostalgia fail to grasp is 95% of classic rock just doesn't hold up or hasn't aged well.

And today, it's the same thing. Most music is crap. But more and more unique gems are popping up. The medium is getting better as a whole and that's all you can ask for.
 

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To me it seems like a lot of care and for lack of a better word, love went into making older music.

Today's music is filled with such heavy editing and overdubbing that it hardly sounds the same when heard live. There is a lot of great talent out there now, but unfortunately it's overshadowed by the process.

It's like the early Star Wars films vs the newer ones. The newer ones use heavy CGI to fill in the gaps where the older films used models and camera trickery. There's just something more earnest about that kind of work in my opinion.