Why does Sony do the things they do?

[x434343]

It's because they're [expletive deleted]

Um, thanks I get the message, sad fact is I like sony they just have a way of driving me nuts. As I assume they have done to you as well.

You LIKE Sony? I also assume you have no soul or, indeed, conciense. Sony has had no fine selling points besides Resistance, which can be beaten by a similar PC counterpart of Crysis (<total lie, I'm just assuming) and MGS4, which will probably be on the 360 within 2 years, Like BioShock defectwed to the PS3 this month. Seriously, all it has is a Blu-Ray drive, which 360 can has by fall, and good graphics, which I can tell is a torrid selling point: Graphics do not a great game make, but only by story and the light of gameplay can a game be excellent (Examples: See Call of Duty, Half-Life, BioShock).

O.k., what does the 360 have?
The Ps3 has processing power to spare, thats why Sony lent it out for disease research. This is also why we are getting Crysis.

Sony has fucking excellent stories - Heavenly Sword, R & C Future, Uncharted : Drakes Fortune (don't believe everything Yahtzee tells you), and Metal Gear Solid 4 (No fucking way its going to the 360. For one, its too big, and for another, Kojima hates the 360)

And of course Resistance : Fall Of Man. I've said it before, but as you didn't get the message; The story of Resistance begins in a U.S. Congressional hearing in the middle of the first world war. After much discussion, the Congress agrees - there is no clear danger to America in this threat, and the U.S. cannot risk becoming involved. Europe must fight her own war. Next, dissatisfaction amongst her people leads Russian workers to unite and attempt to overthrow the Czar. However, it is crushed. With no American involvement and the continued support of Russia, Britains great war must continue on. Finally, an honoruable truce is found - neither side is decided to be the evil party, and so Germany must not hemorrhage money to pay for the Treaty of Versailles. Americas lack of involvement in the war has meant that the debt that would cause global depression is never felt - Japan and Germany remain docile, the axis can never link.

At this time, a comet has crashed into Siberia, carrying with it a mutagenic virus (People keep making the mistake of calling the Chimera aliens. They're actually just infected humans - sorta like the Combine infantry). Russia attempts to quarantine herself, and deal with it. With the ideal Russian climate, the Chimeras growth is quick - they spread, harvesting and infecting the entire country. She is doomed. Worse, her geographic position allows easy invasion of all of Europe - she falls in a matter of weeks.

How can you not love this story? No, I'm asking. On what grounds do people say that Resistance is lacking a story?

The Ps3 also has Sony's knack for identifying great series (Sony took a chance on Grand Theft Auto and Guitar Hero)

So, I assume you hate VALVe? VALVe owner Gabe Newell said that the PS3 was, "A waste of everyone's time." (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7422&Itemid=61) Basically, you are NOT getting Left 4 Dead until the devil named EA ports it, which is very probable.

Right. So Resistance has a good story. Which is why I want it. [/sarcasm] Every game can have a good story. Most just choose to say "Fuck it" and hash out sequels. Resistance does have a good Sci-Fi story, but Crysis does too. Lemme ask you something: Does Resistance offer customizable weapons, 4 different suit modes, and shitty vehicle sections? Yes, I LOVE the shitty vehicles; They make me laugh when I fail epically.

As for the fact that the 360 can't run MGS4, there's a flipside. If they toned down the graphics a touch, separated it into a few discs, and got Kojima to approve, then it could go onto the 360. Hey, Lost Odyssey had 4 discs, maybe MGS4 could be split into 5.

As for not going with Blu-Ray to start, console wars are console wars. 360 is developing a 360 wii mote thing, which might challenge Nintendo a bit. Anything could happen. The point is, there was no 100% guarantee at the time that Blu-Ray would win. Microsoft has now realized that in order to stick with the times, they need a Blu-Ray drive.

The fact of the matter is, aside from a few exclusives, Sony is sharing many of it's games with the 360 and the PC. Orange Box, BioShock (Why do people say Bioshock? It's proper name is, in fact, BioShock. Capital B-i-o-capital S-h-o-c-k, like BIOlogical SHOCK.), CoD4, Guitar Hero 3, Rock Band (OK that isn't on PC), Assassin's Creed, R6V2, GTA4, and DMC4, to name a few. Unless Sony can nail a good co-op zombie game, a good MODERN shooter, and a good instrument game, the PS3 is just a bigger, slightly-better-graphics, a few different games, no Mass Effect or L4D, Blu-Ray enabled, downloading 360.

 

[shadow skill]

You know Gabe is a fucking idiot the damn Orange Box 360 port suffered from one of the dumbest bugs I've ever seen in a game. You would think that instead of saying another platform is a waste of time he would make the platform he likes doesn't allow players to abssolutely break weapon switching! Even Itagaki said that the PS3 wasn't "hard" to develop for and more or less told all the people bitching at the time to shut the fuck up. You know what Team Ninja's Ninja Gaiden Sigma speaks for itself the damn thing is a dream to play on the PS3 and this was an earlier port, so for all of the flak that Itagaki gets (rightly and wrongly) his team obviously figured it out.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

So, I assume you hate VALVe? VALVe owner Gabe Newell said that the PS3 was, "A waste of everyone's time." (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7422&Itemid=61) Basically, you are NOT getting Left 4 Dead until the devil named EA ports it, which is very probable.

ok i'll wait for the port to the pc

i'd rather play fps's on the pc where i can have a good control scheme, ie mouse and keyboard

As for the fact that the 360 can't run MGS4, there's a flipside. If they toned down the graphics a touch, separated it into a few discs, and got Kojima to approve, then it could go onto the 360. Hey, Lost Odyssey had 4 discs, maybe MGS4 could be split into 5.

ok so they have to make the game crappier to work on the 360, thanx for saying the ps3 was the better system

As for not going with Blu-Ray to start, console wars are console wars. 360 is developing a 360 wii mote thing, which might challenge Nintendo a bit. Anything could happen. The point is, there was no 100% guarantee at the time that Blu-Ray would win. Microsoft has now realized that in order to stick with the times, they need a Blu-Ray drive.

yeah sony has blu-ray AND the sixaxxis controller, m$ is playing catch up as usual

also with blu-ray and hd-dvd, m$ was a backer of the hd-dvd format, they helped kill off the format they helped develop and "support" by not adding that into the console to begin with

The fact of the matter is, aside from a few exclusives, Sony is sharing many of it's games with the 360 and the PC.

ok so what exclusives does the 360 have? gears of war - on the pc with more content, bioshock - on the pc with free content, halo 3 - give a couple months and it will be on the pc

Unless Sony can nail a good co-op zombie game, a good MODERN shooter, and a good instrument game, the PS3 is just a bigger, slightly-better-graphics, a few different games, no Mass Effect or L4D, Blu-Ray enabled, downloading 360.

cause we all know that there's fps' are the only genre to exist

what games that aren't on the ps3 i can get on the pc

as a funny side note all the ebgames employees i know either have a ps3 or a wii or both, maybe one of them has a 360

 

[Radelaide]

Sony has ALWAYS been rather over-rated. To get a proper market share, like they had with the PS2, they shouldn't have over-hyped Blu-Ray and released at the same time as the 360. But because of all the bugs in the system, they couldn't. That kinda convinces me that the PS3 won't be as good as the PS2. Re-release the PS2 with the engines they're using in the PS3 without Blu-Ray and it might be good

 

[cleverlymadeup]

Sony has ALWAYS been rather over-rated. To get a proper market share, like they had with the PS2, they shouldn't have over-hyped Blu-Ray and released at the same time as the 360. But because of all the bugs in the system, they couldn't. That kinda convinces me that the PS3 won't be as good as the PS2. Re-release the PS2 with the engines they're using in the PS3 without Blu-Ray and it might be good

wow i really don't know how to respond to that

there's so much wrong with that statement and total lack of knowledge about anything, i'll leave it at that

 

[shatnershaman]

If only PS2 said to PS3

"Don't get cocky kid."

But it didn't so PS3 got arrogant and is now backpedaling to the beginning bringing out what should have been out years before (see home)

 

[Zombie_King]

They only do it because they love you.

 

[Zombie_King]

They only do it because they love you.

 

[shatnershaman]

Blu-ray is kinda the whole point. It allows them to make bigger games with more content cheaper than on DVD.

How much do you think a DVD cost? its frigging cheap as hell

 

[shatnershaman]

Blu-ray is kinda the whole point. It allows them to make bigger games with more content cheaper than on DVD.

How much do you think a DVD cost? its frigging cheap as hell

How much do you think it cost to mass write a game to 4 DVD discs? And how much larger do you think the markup would be?

It worked for all those FF games that were on multiple discs

 

[Jumplion]

Blu-ray is kinda the whole point. It allows them to make bigger games with more content cheaper than on DVD.

How much do you think a DVD cost? its frigging cheap as hell

How much do you think it cost to mass write a game to 4 DVD discs? And how much larger do you think the markup would be?

It worked for all those FF games that were on multiple discs

Yeah, but how many people can say they have a DVD fetish? Not many.

 

[shatnershaman]

So we should install games on consoles not make the disc bigger???

EDIT: Actually PS3 does do this to make up for slow blu-ray drive

 

[cleverlymadeup]

Blu-ray is kinda the whole point. It allows them to make bigger games with more content cheaper than on DVD.

How much do you think a DVD cost? its frigging cheap as hell

How much do you think it cost to mass write a game to 4 DVD discs? And how much larger do you think the markup would be?

actually it's a LOT to make mulitple dvds in a set, a musician i listen to was making cdr's and got asked to make silver cds, he looked into the cost of it, a double cd was over double the costs, i'm guessing the multiple dvds would be double if not more as well

also you can't splitu up certain dvds, such as racing games.

case in point project gotham racing, they were going to add changing daylight and weather conditions on each track, they found out the disc was too small so they had to stick with static daylight and weather in each city, they could have done it if the 360 used a hd-dvd

but i guess that's just more stuff for them to add to gran turismo 5 that pgr doesn't have

 

[shatnershaman]

"but i guess that's just more stuff for them to add to gran turismo 5 that pgr doesn't have"

Then enjoy it when it comes out I might join you if theres some price drops by then.

 

[x434343]

You know Gabe is a fucking idiot the damn Orange Box 360 port suffered from one of the dumbest bugs I've ever seen in a game. You would think that instead of saying another platform is a waste of time he would make the platform he likes doesn't allow players to abssolutely break weapon switching! Even Itagaki said that the PS3 wasn't "hard" to develop for and more or less told all the people bitching at the time to shut the fuck up. You know what Team Ninja's Ninja Gaiden Sigma speaks for itself the damn thing is a dream to play on the PS3 and this was an earlier port, so for all of the flak that Itagaki gets (rightly and wrongly) his team obviously figured it out.

What don't you like? Half-Life? L4D? CounterStrike? Source/GoldSource? Get the PC version of Orange Box, it's better than the 360. Especially when you figure out how to make your shotgun spit 500 pellets at once. Also, what the hell does "he would make the platform he likes doesn't allow players to abssolutely break weapon switching!" mean? Likes doesn't allow players to what now?

 

[shadow skill]

In the 360 version (The last time I played it which was some time ago, so this may have been fixed.) The game allowed you to change the button mapping but for some ungodly reason decided that the weapon classes would be hard coded to the DPad and the player would still be allowed to map any function to the dpad basically removing the ability to switch to the weapon class bound to what ever DPad button you remapped. I almost took the disc out and smashed it, then I went ahead and ordered the PC version.