Why Halo is called innovative?

Korono

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muffincakes said:
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halo 1 started all this space marine stuff
I suppose Doom and Quake don't exist in your world.

Anyway, the first Halo was innovative because it was pretty much the first console game with online multiplayer that was easy to use and fun to play. It also introduced the "sissy shield" ie. hide in a corner to get all better. I suppose that some find that as an innovative addition as well. Other than that, Halo was your average FPS.
This was the one intelligent coherent point and I'd like to build on it. What Halo did was take genre staples and conventions and perfect them, then streamline them. What resulted was a simple, fast-paced smooth-flowing FPS with kickass multipayer marketed for consoles. Things like shield health and other minor tweaks don't make a game innovative. New and intuitive gameplay makes a game innovative.

And being influential doesn't make something innovative. Case in point, Nirvana and Donnie Darko.
 

RIOT MAST3R

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Alright. Imma gonna throw the gauntlet. Name an FPS with a better story.
Deus Ex, Half-Life, System Shock 2, Bioshock, Call of Duty 4, Half-Life 2, etc.
NAME AN FPS WITH A BETTER STORY THAT CAME OUT BEFORE HALO!
 

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RIOT MAST3R said:
Joeshie said:
RIOT MAST3R said:
Alright. Imma gonna throw the gauntlet. Name an FPS with a better story.
Deus Ex, Half-Life, System Shock 2, Bioshock, Call of Duty 4, Half-Life 2, etc.
NAME AN FPS WITH A BETTER STORY THAT CAME OUT BEFORE HALO!
Half Life, Deus Ex, System Shock 1+2. Jesus, maybe google a couple of them...?

People like you give Xbox gamers a bad name.
 

RIOT MAST3R

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Steelfists said:
RIOT MAST3R said:
Joeshie said:
RIOT MAST3R said:
Alright. Imma gonna throw the gauntlet. Name an FPS with a better story.
Deus Ex, Half-Life, System Shock 2, Bioshock, Call of Duty 4, Half-Life 2, etc.
NAME AN FPS WITH A BETTER STORY THAT CAME OUT BEFORE HALO!
Half Life, Deus Ex, System Shock 1+2. Jesus, maybe google a couple of them...?

People like you give Xbox gamers a bad name.
Im sorry, I've never (GASP!) owned an XBOX. I was to busy playing sports and gaining friends to game. I bought a 360 last year and have been catching up on my game history in my spare time. Interesting stuff. But I only game in my spare time so I don't have much time to actually play the older stuff. Having a life can do that to a person.
 

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RIOT MAST3R said:
Steelfists said:
RIOT MAST3R said:
Joeshie said:
RIOT MAST3R said:
Alright. Imma gonna throw the gauntlet. Name an FPS with a better story.
Deus Ex, Half-Life, System Shock 2, Bioshock, Call of Duty 4, Half-Life 2, etc.
NAME AN FPS WITH A BETTER STORY THAT CAME OUT BEFORE HALO!
Half Life, Deus Ex, System Shock 1+2. Jesus, maybe google a couple of them...?

People like you give Xbox gamers a bad name.
Im sorry, I've never (GASP!) owned an XBOX. I was to busy playing sports and gaining friends to game. I bought a 360 last year and have been catching up on my game history in my spare time. Interesting stuff. But I only game in my spare time so I don't have much time to actually play the older stuff. Having a life can do that to a person.
Those are overrated.
 

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So what did we settle for.. it still doesn't seem to be innovative to me, while I agree it did bring to the table.
 

TopHatTim

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ok so its not so innovated but everyone likes "heres some guns, go blow up baddies" but its ONLy wizz bang shooting. theres no thinking involved other then point click kill...its a very repetitive game, and series and the online is fucking annoying...thats my opinion
 

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Alright. Imma gonna throw the gauntlet. Name an FPS with a bet
RIOT MAST3R said:
Steelfists said:
RIOT MAST3R said:
Joeshie said:
RIOT MAST3R said:
Alright. Imma gonna throw the gauntlet. Name an FPS with a better story.
Deus Ex, Half-Life, System Shock 2, Bioshock, Call of Duty 4, Half-Life 2, etc.
NAME AN FPS WITH A BETTER STORY THAT CAME OUT BEFORE HALO!
Half Life, Deus Ex, System Shock 1+2. Jesus, maybe google a couple of them...?

People like you give Xbox gamers a bad name.
Im sorry, I've never (GASP!) owned an XBOX. I was to busy playing sports and gaining friends to game. I bought a 360 last year and have been catching up on my game history in my spare time. Interesting stuff. But I only game in my spare time so I don't have much time to actually play the older stuff. Having a life can do that to a person.
obviously not , becuase you dont have a social life if you think no other FPS has a better story line...big fanboy saying. fanboys always say they have social lives...and if you had any common sense you would know that, and half-life series, deus ex, System Shock 2, Bioshock, Call of Duty (all) shit even unreal tourny 2 had a better story line
 

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RIOT MAST3R said:
Steelfists said:
RIOT MAST3R said:
Joeshie said:
RIOT MAST3R said:
Alright. Imma gonna throw the gauntlet. Name an FPS with a better story.
Deus Ex, Half-Life, System Shock 2, Bioshock, Call of Duty 4, Half-Life 2, etc.
NAME AN FPS WITH A BETTER STORY THAT CAME OUT BEFORE HALO!
Half Life, Deus Ex, System Shock 1+2. Jesus, maybe google a couple of them...?

People like you give Xbox gamers a bad name.
Im sorry, I've never (GASP!) owned an XBOX. I was to busy playing sports and gaining friends to game. I bought a 360 last year and have been catching up on my game history in my spare time. Interesting stuff. But I only game in my spare time so I don't have much time to actually play the older stuff. Having a life can do that to a person.
Hurr hurr hurr. Then why are you on this forum/in this thread? Dont you have anything better to do than waiting for people to respond to stupid questions you much easier could have gotten answered by googling a minute?
 

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obviously not , becuase you dont have a social life if you think no other FPS has a better story line...big fanboy saying. fanboys always say they have social lives...and if you had any common sense you would know that, and half-life series, deus ex, System Shock 2, Bioshock, Call of Duty (all) shit even unreal tourny 2 had a better story line
First of all, what the hell does having a social life have to do with knowing other FPSes with storylines? And secondly, Unreal Tournament 2003 (if that is what you mean by UT2) had the dumbest storyline ever. If you honestly think it was better in story content than Halo, I really can't do anything but shake my head in shame at such stupidity. (Another thing: Put periods at the end of sentences, and use spell check. It is shameful for you to use lower-case letters when mentioning the great Half-Life and Deus Ex series.)
 

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Halo was hardly 'innovative'. The main components of the game had been done many years ago.

The master chief. A genetically and cybernetically enhanced human in a suit of power armour (2001). The Adeptus Astartes Space Marines from Warhammer 40K. Genetically and cybernetically enhanced humans in power armour (1987).

The Halo. A self contained planetary simulation in the shape of a giant ring (2001). Larry Niven's Ringworld. A self contained planetary simulation in the shape of a giant ring (1962).

The weapons were stale and used 100s of times before. Basically the standard for a FPS, Machine Gun, Rocket Launcer, Sniper Rifle, Pistol and some form of laser weapon.

And don't the little Flood seem very similar to Head Crabs in Half Life. Made 3 years before Halo.

So you see, no originality or innovation.
 

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TOFUM4ST3R said:
TopHatTim said:
obviously not , becuase you dont have a social life if you think no other FPS has a better story line...big fanboy saying. fanboys always say they have social lives...and if you had any common sense you would know that, and half-life series, deus ex, System Shock 2, Bioshock, Call of Duty (all) shit even unreal tourny 2 had a better story line
First of all, what the hell does having a social life have to do with knowing other FPSes with storylines? And secondly, Unreal Tournament 2003 (if that is what you mean by UT2) had the dumbest storyline ever. If you honestly think it was better in story content than Halo, I really can't do anything but shake my head in shame at such stupidity. (Another thing: Put periods at the end of sentences, and use spell check. It is shameful for you to use lower-case letters when mentioning the great Half-Life and Deus Ex series.)
Seriously? your really going to battle grammer and proper sentence structure on a forum?
fine by the way its FPS's great job. And by Unreal Tournament 2 i mean Unreal Tournament 2:The Liandri Conflict. And yes i do think that its better then Halo 2 and 3 story lines becuase now they're just cliche'ing the entire series.
 

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Space Marines first had a mention in the 30s or something round there. But the first notable was in the Starship Troopers novel.
 

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TOFUM4ST3R said:
TopHatTim said:
obviously not , becuase you dont have a social life if you think no other FPS has a better story line...big fanboy saying. fanboys always say they have social lives...and if you had any common sense you would know that, and half-life series, deus ex, System Shock 2, Bioshock, Call of Duty (all) shit even unreal tourny 2 had a better story line
First of all, what the hell does having a social life have to do with knowing other FPSes with storylines? And secondly, Unreal Tournament 2003 (if that is what you mean by UT2) had the dumbest storyline ever. If you honestly think it was better in story content than Halo, I really can't do anything but shake my head in shame at such stupidity. (Another thing: Put periods at the end of sentences, and use spell check. It is shameful for you to use lower-case letters when mentioning the great Half-Life and Deus Ex series.)
The definition of Innovative:The term innovation means a new way of doing something. It may refer to incremental, radical, and revolutionary changes in thinking.< This my friend, just isn't Halo.
 

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Halo 1 was innovative(at the time)...now calling halo innovative is like calling pinneapples helmets...while one could argue the point one would look like a reaching jackass with an odd obsession for fruit...
 

Art Axiv

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samsprinkle said:
Halo 1 was innovative(at the time)...now calling halo innovative is like calling pinneapples helmets...while one could argue the point one would look like a reaching jackass with an odd obsession for fruit...
Issue is, why it is innovative back then.