Who said all this was valid in the first place?Vanilla_Knight said:Yeah, let's assume that these asinine premises are true so that my argument is somewhere nearing logical coherence. Let's also just assume the conclusion before the argument so it can fit into my interpretation of skewed data. Don't be skeptical of spurious correlations, just accept them at face value without any need to calculate for other variables or even admit their existence. There's nothing wrong with that at all. And if you take issue with it, then you're "angry".KilloZapit said:Geez, you seem really angry about this. It's not like it really means much in the end. Let's just assume for a moment that there is a particular trend in AAA games revolving around the "dad figure" right now. And lets also assume it's a refection of the audience the games are marketed to. So what? All that means is that this may be true for a particular subset of gamers, or that the AAA gaming industry at least thinks it is. Does that mean that every single person who plays the game is going to fit into that particular group? No, it doesn't. Does that mean that every single gamer has to stick to what ever stereotype the AAA industry is marketing the games to? Also no.
That doesn't mean people can't statistically gather trends and make theories about them. Stuff like "gamers are getting older" and "gender roles are changing" may be and probably are true enough to at least be reasonable. Is it an absolute truth that can apply to absolutely everyone? Of course not. Newsflash: Nothing is. What do you want, for everyone who buys a game to write down a paragraph about why? Do you have access to data like that? Could you be assured they aren't lying or being misinterpreted?
But of course it's only a theory, a prediction. It might be a useful guided to what games are being made and what games are selling, but in the end it's really up to who wants to buy them, and they all have their own reasons.
It's really quite funny that you argue against yourself in the last sentence. If you're going to admit that people all have their own reasons for playing different games, why are you defending such horseshit inferences about society based solely on one character trait? Is "it's only a theory" really supposed to be the defense? Do people think all opinions and theories are valid nowadays?
I think you are totally missing my point. I am not defending the argument at hand. I am just trying to point out how pointless it is to get indignant about. Do I think think all opinions and theories are "valid" nowadays? I guess it's hard to see why random dinky people saying random dinky things in a dinky little forum are any more "right" or "wrong" then any other random dinky people saying random dinky things in a dinky forum. You want to actually debunk it and debate it's rational failures? Great! Look forward to your peer reviewed paper and/or book of philosophy with lots of helpful citations to lay out exactly why everyone else is wrong about this. It would sure shut me up. No seriously it would, I don't think I could even imagining putting that much effort into it.Vanilla_Knight said:Yeah, let's assume that these asinine premises are true so that my argument is somewhere nearing logical coherence. Let's also just assume the conclusion before the argument so it can fit into my interpretation of skewed data. Don't be skeptical of spurious correlations, just accept them at face value without any need to calculate for other variables or even admit their existence. There's nothing wrong with that at all. And if you take issue with it, then you're "angry".
It's really quite funny that you argue against yourself in the last sentence. If you're going to admit that people all have their own reasons for playing different games, why are you defending such horseshit inferences about society based solely on one character trait? Is "it's only a theory" really supposed to be the defense? Do people think all opinions and theories are valid nowadays?
I see where you are coming from but I think the other thing is that we are now franchise crazy. If you are going to have the ninth installment of a title and want it to be chronological then the title charecter is likely to age through the games. The first game has the cocky bad ass and by the nineteenth episode he is a geriatric whos attacks are based on his lack of bowel control. We just happen to be at middle age right now.Yahtzee Croshaw said:Why Is Every AAA Game Hero Suddenly Your Dad?
Has anyone else noticed that an awful lot of these action game heroes are becoming dads? Not literally. I couldn't imagine Rico Rodriguez slipping the D into except a ballistic missile.
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