Why is Prostitution Illegal?

[demoman_chaos]

Actually, if you look at countries that don't make it illegal, or brush it under the rug, then you notice a interesting fact:
Prostitutes in these regions are, in general, healthier as they have regular STD and drug tests while also making sure safe sex is a mandatory thing with their customers. They are safer as they are not walking the streets, this means they have no 'pimp' that will beat them over money and can go to the police when they are raped/abused. They are also paid a fair rate, cause not only is the 'pimp' not stealing from them but governmental and union groups can make sure there are fair regulations.

Most of all they are WILLING!

You see, when you make it illegal then the vast majority if people who profit from it are... criminals. These criminals don't have a damn if they force people to become whores so they can make a huge amount of money. They will take woman, get them addicted to drug to make them easy to control, and then set them out on the street and not care if they live or die. If you make it legal though... well, they may still be trying but with a legitimate market most customers will go elsewhere then drugged out corner walkers.

Exactly my point. If regulated, a lot of the problems with the current system would vanish. It is only illegal due to religious morals forced onto the people that fail to realize all people have their own sense of what is right and wrong. Morals are just like one's self-esteem, it is up to you to decide how you feel and you should let other people control it. Prostitution itself is not immoral to me, but that doesn't mean I' partake in it. Just like with abortion, if you don't like it don't do it (abortion is a subject for another time though so don't discuss it in detail here please).

 

[Insanum]

Its not a question about it's viability - What would be the point in legalisation if there is nowhere to practice?

Sure, Im not going to lie and say its all on facts & stats - a big part is based on emotion. If this was an arguement about Piracy, Or computer programs, Fair enough - But this is about Prostitution - Which is a human[/I] industry.

All industries are human industry. Are the horrors of most coal miners not a human industry?

You really seem to have a biased view of prostitution and sex trafficking. For one, you keep insisting that pimps are men. While this is a popular conception in many Western countries, a large portion brothels are run by women. They are known as "madams".

Everyone always takes these threads off base, arguing regulatory concerns rather than analyzing the law itself.

Im using the general gender sides, But there are "pimps" in either sex. I may have a "Biased View" as you call it, but i have seen the other side, The side that a lot of people havent thought of, or even knew existed. I would quote exact figures as to the people that get out of the industry, But as i cant recall exact numbers, i can only speculate.

If my memory serves me correctly, its somewhere in the region of 1:750.

Mining is a Production industry, Which although it is hard (and often very dangerous work), Is different to this industry.

 

[major28]

no man would have a dime to his name

 

[AgDr_ODST]

I think one reason why is. not everyone who is a prostitute is so by choice thiers a large market for human trafficking and some girls (as young as thier low teens get kidnapped) and forced to do it while thier pimp/captor rakes in all or the large majority of the money from what they put thier victims through

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

It's largely a cash-in-hand business, and you can't tax cash-in-hand. If the government could tax it, they'd legalize it.

 

[Dags90]

It's largely a cash-in-hand business, and you can't tax cash-in-hand. If the government could tax it, they'd legalize it.

Busking is legal (though heavily regulated). Don't see many of those guys taking checks or charge cards.

 

[BlackIronGuardian]

Ever heard of sex trafficking, dude? Who, exactly, do you think the majority of prostitutes are?

 

[demoman_chaos]

It's largely a cash-in-hand business, and you can't tax cash-in-hand. If the government could tax it, they'd legalize it.

Ever heard of a brothel? Basically a hotel, but instead of paying for a room to sleep in or stay a few days in, you pay for an hour or so with a prostitute. Those can be more easily regulated. If legalized, brothels would quickly replace street work and would be easy to tax.

 

[DELETE THIS ACCOUNT 12412412434]

Because GOOOODD CRRRIIIISSCHUUUNNNS

 

[Reaper195]

It was banned many years ago by the Church...and in the States (I'm assuming this is where you are meaning), it's because politics and religion are heavily integrated.

 

[blankedboy]

I think it is legal here in New Zealand...

 

[Vrex360]

It's not illegal in some parts of the world though, there are still 'escort girls' working and there is the occassional brothel but for the most part I think that sex addiction is still technically an addicition and plus given the abusive way some pimps treat their women, it can be seen as highly amoral.

That said if it isn't the amoral pimp business or the whole 'preying on the desperate' angle when it comes to hiring women for this job then I'm sure it wouldn't be that big of a deal. It's just that it's kind of hard to sweep all the unpleasant parts of the industry under the rug. So it's illegal because it's one part addictive and one part amoral.
That said from what I understand 'escort girls' and certain brothels still operate legally, admittedly I could be wrong about that.

 

[RatRace123]

Not illegal everywhere. It's just called "escort service"

Personally I think it'd be a profitable venture, I see no reason why regulated brothels shouldn't exist.

 

[starbob84]

what is immoral about sex?

 

[Insanum]

Prohibition, however is alcohol. A few major differences:

1.Alcohol isnt a primal desire, Whilst Sex is.
2.Supply. You need to make[/I] alcohol.
3. Pimps wouldn't be "out of work" - See my 2nd example. All it would mean was that those girls wouldn't have any legal backing as what they were being forced to do was legal.
4. You cant ignore Nimby's, within reason. You speak to anyone[/I] - they wouldnt want curb crawling or a brothel on their doorstep, Even a legal one.

You can say its up to everyone to decide what is moral, but just look at what the industry is. Look at the distress it causes. Look at the people involved. And you think that legalising all that is right?[/I]

(that wasnt meant as an insult, But you understand the point im making)

I'm partial to mental chess, So to speak.

There are more alcohol addicts than sex addicts.
You need a supply of women to be a pimp, and women have to be created and raised (which takes longer than it does to make alcohol).

The pimps would have quite a few less customers. People tend to only do illegal things if there is no legal alternative. Make it legal,and most will do it legally. Pimps will be forced to lower prices to compete, which will drive them into bankruptcy since their other habits aren't cheap and they will for the most part be eliminated.
I personally can ignore NIMBY's, they are just people after all. If a businessman wants to build a brothel, he will. If the locals resist, he just has to shell out a few bucks and the NIMBY's shut up.

I do understand your point, but most problems can be resolved in a short amount of time. Once it is legal, most problems will be eliminated. And don't worry about insulting me, I don't get offended.

Mental chess is quite fun.

There are more Alcoholics now it has been legalised. When i say "pimp" i dont mean the "Big black guy wearing purple and jive talking" - I mean a Criminal. A nasty piece of work.

The best advice/counter argument i can give Re: NIMBY's is to try and have some apathy - You say that "you can ignore these people, they are people after all" - Put yourselves in their shoes. Imagine your house, You favourite hang-out, Etc, has had something you find undesireable (if brothels aren't) put next door.

The problems that happen in the industry at the moment last a lifetime. The physical & mental trauma a lot of the girls suffer is incomprehensible - thats[/I] why i feel it shouldnt be legalised.

I just mentioned the patronising thing as i didnt want you to think i was being "snotty" (or for the mods to think that)

 

[superbatranger]

I think it's mainly because of the risks associated with prostitution. The use of illicit drugs, spread of STD's, being caught in a cycle of endless prostitution that you can't get out of, possible sex addiction if all you do is spend your money on said prostitutes. But the big one is the morality of it all. Religion and government usually tell us that it's bad, therefore we row up thinking it's wrong.

Now, I know that as we grow older, we learn that it's not necessarily wrong. But, because it is illegal in some countries, we can't really do anything unless they decide to pass a law legalizing and regulating it. We just have to accept that it's illegal until that happens, if it does.

 

[starbob84]

Look what happens any time degeneracy is legalized. It never works out for the betterment of society, which is also why I disapprove of legalizing narcotics.

list some examples.

 

[Insanum]

Not illegal everywhere. It's just called "escort service"

Personally I think it'd be a profitable venture, I see no reason why regulated brothels shouldn't exist.

It's not illegal in some parts of the world though, there are still 'escort girls' working.

The way they get round the laws (to my knowledge - Ive never tried (or have any intention of trying) any of these services) is that you pay for the "date", and then if anything happens then it is between two consenting adults.

 

[Newa]

I wish it wasn't.

 

[KittyPryde87]

Herpes.