Why is Prostitution Illegal?
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Why is it illegal? Because the Bible tells us it is immoral.
Should it be illegal? No. The arguments against legal prostitution are fallacious in my opinion. Legal prostitution would lead to fewer of the criminal activities that currently surround its practice and if instituted and enforced correctly would reduce the incidence of STDs.
Should it be illegal? No. The arguments against legal prostitution are fallacious in my opinion. Legal prostitution would lead to fewer of the criminal activities that currently surround its practice and if instituted and enforced correctly would reduce the incidence of STDs.
I am against it as well but there's a few problems with the statement you made. For example, why should they gov't be in charge of dictating what we do based on their views on morality? Is it immoral to charge so much for medicine? If you reduce the cost of medicine then how would they pay the people who did the research? Also, how can one argue that a person choosing to give it for free is more moral than one charging for it? How is it moral to not allow a person to charge for a service that they choose to do? See what I mean? Like I said, I'm against it (as I'm against other issues) but have trouble trying to rationalize why it shouldn't be done without my reason being ripped apart. I guess, I figure that it would be better to legalize and regulate things that people are going to do anyways than simply make it illegal. Though it's reasons like this why I will never become a politician...I end up disagreeing with myself...I dunno...midget_roxx said:
I think they'd take a drop in profits but there are still people who want the tease instead of just the services of a prostitute. I would say that it would be cheaper to hang out at a strip club for a while to "get ready" for the prostitute instead of paying for the prostitute for a while. Though I do see your point. Also, with prostitution being legal, would your partner go to a strip club or prostitute (if you had to choose one)? Many would say the strip club. Also, the strip club's cheaper. You pay a cover (approximately $3-5 dollars though can go up from there), pay the dancers (that goes by the hour so I'll guesstimate...um, $20-30 sound fair?), a lap dance or two (approximately $30 if I remember right). So, a 2 hour trip to the strip club equals to about $65-95. How much would a visit to the brothel cost? I remember seeing The Bunny Ranch on HBO and they charged a bit more than $100 for one hour. (I didn't add the cost of alcohol because I don't drink at strip clubs, makes money slip away too fast. Though, if you want to add that...well, let's say you drink 5 drinks at between $5 and 10 a piece, that's an extra $25-50.) Though, I would guess that if prostitution became legal, then why wouldn't a prostitute work at a strip club? I mean, that would seem like an ideal place to work...so, all the above math is useless...oh well, it was a fun waste of time.Daaaah Whoosh said:
That always makes me feel ripped off...though, on that particular subject, I've been to one which had an 18 and over side and a 21 and over side (where you could drink alcohol) separated by a wall...you actually had to go all the way outside to enter the other side. Anyways, for some reason, the 18 side had full nude, the 21 side didn't...thought that was odd.Hopeless Bastard said:
BTW, I'm a married man now so I don't really go to strip clubs that much anymore. The above statements were made from when I was younger and used to go more often. Though, if I find a strip club with male strippers, I will apply/ tryout for a job there. It's good money that I can use for college...my wife says she doesn't like the idea but could get used to it if the pay was worth it. If I could make the same amount doing a job that's "more acceptable" than she would prefer I take the other job.
Religion, mostly. And culture. But given all the superstition surrounding just about every culture, and general religious impact, culture and religion are pretty damn close.
With 80% of the world still admitting to being theistic, old habits die hard.
By the way, the same reason why homosexuals are still prosecuted in many countries. And not allowed to marry (although in my opinion it's somewhat different. Call me a cynic, but marriage is a religion thing. A civil union, as long as it provides all the same effects from a legal point of view, is as good (or bad, depending no your view towards marriage).
With 80% of the world still admitting to being theistic, old habits die hard.
By the way, the same reason why homosexuals are still prosecuted in many countries. And not allowed to marry (although in my opinion it's somewhat different. Call me a cynic, but marriage is a religion thing. A civil union, as long as it provides all the same effects from a legal point of view, is as good (or bad, depending no your view towards marriage).
People need to stop assuming letting something be legal that is morally ambiguous will lead th world to some lawless hell. No one ever seems to want to suggest giving it a chance it seems. Not like after legalizing it, if it actually does start to ruin the world we could make it illegal again.MONSTERheart said:
I think it was made illegal to by the Christian Church to promote marriage and family unity which helps increase the population, especially with all the warring that used to go on in medieval Europe.
Now that population size is more than stable, such a thing isn't quite necessary, but once you make something illegal long enough it becomes so taboo that making it legal again doesn't get much support.
Like if you made beans illegal because they made people fart(especially if you have religious reason "though shall not fart"). Keep that law for a 100 years or so. People will think eating beans is immoral. Maybe not the best example but I think you get what I mean.
Now that population size is more than stable, such a thing isn't quite necessary, but once you make something illegal long enough it becomes so taboo that making it legal again doesn't get much support.
Like if you made beans illegal because they made people fart(especially if you have religious reason "though shall not fart"). Keep that law for a 100 years or so. People will think eating beans is immoral. Maybe not the best example but I think you get what I mean.
During prohibition, many criminal organizations did quite a lot of evil (I'll skip the details for time's sake), which stopped nearly completely once alcohol was legalized.Insanum said:
Anything regulated generally becomes much less abused. If regulated and legalized, there would be a lot less girls on street corners. Brothels would reappear and most of the business would take place inside the brothel. Pimps would be out of work since illegally selling something legal doesn't work out very well, or they'd become legit businessmen.
For every issue, there will be NIMBY's. They are unavoidable, but they aren't unignorable.
Morality is really up to the person. It is not up to a government of other figurehead to decide what is and isn't moral. It is up to everyone to decide for themselves what is moral.
It's ridiculous that it even is. By making it legal we remove the shady part of it.
Sex: Give it away all day long for free, but don't dare charge a dime for it.
dumb.
Sex: Give it away all day long for free, but don't dare charge a dime for it.
dumb.
It actually isn't whole states, the only place I've ever heard of for legal brothels in the U.S. is whatever county just outside of Vegas. And look what's happened to Vegas! Celine Dion.Kakkoi said:
That's why prostitution is illegal, fear of hammy Canadian singers.
*really wish a picture of genitals infected with genital warts wouldn't get me banned*
Seriously, why the fuck is this even a question?
and if it was widespread imagine the fire bombs thrown at it from the religious right?
Seriously, why the fuck is this even a question?
and if it was widespread imagine the fire bombs thrown at it from the religious right?
It's only illegal because the government kisses the pope's old white ass. There's a legal brother in Australia that's got the cleanest sex your money can by.
One problem. The average age people are forced into prostitution is age 13. Plus, the word forced. The human body is supposed to be sacred, and prostitution defiles that. Most prostitutes are forced into it, or have no choice. Would you be a prostitute? And what would it do to the human psyche. It believes mating it the ultimate end. Now what happens when it suddenly isn't?demoman_chaos said:
Despite all this, I feel sorry 'cause you're probably gonna get flamed even more.
Though, for the sake of debate (I agree with your point but enjoy a debate against an intelligent person, which you seem to be...kinda like a game of mental chess), what if it was regulated the way that the porn industry is and they had to be in brothels? Or, if it was like in Amsterdam, where (to my understanding) smoking a certain plant is not legal but is tolerated in certain places because it can be regulated? That would get rid of the STDs being spread (for the most part), pimps and trafficking would still be illegal and severely punished but would lose business because the consumers can obtain the service from a legal source, also there's the benefit that it can be taxed thus adding to the national revenue. I still wouldn't solicit such businesses (happily married, thank you) but I understand that there is a market for it. It's like abortion or illegal drugs (don't get offended please hear me out) it doesn't matter if it's legal or not, people are going to do it anyways. Wouldn't it be better to control it than try (and fail) to get rid of it? In a way, it's a monster that you can't kill so why not control it instead and profit from such control?Insanum said:
Just wanted to say that not everybody feels their body is "sacred" (for example, the people who "give it away for free", drug abusers, or others who aren't religious). Also, I would think that legalization would mean regulation and anybody under the age of 18 (or if I made the rules 21) would not be legally allowed to partake in it should that would stay illegal. That's still just wrong because nobody should be forced in to it, children should not be exploited, and other reasons.Xero Scythe said:
Prohibition, however is alcohol. A few major differences:demoman_chaos said:
1.Alcohol isnt a primal desire, Whilst Sex is.
2.Supply. You need to make[/I] alcohol.
3. Pimps wouldn't be "out of work" - See my 2nd example. All it would mean was that those girls wouldn't have any legal backing as what they were being forced to do was legal.
4. You cant ignore Nimby's, within reason. You speak to anyone[/I] - they wouldnt want curb crawling or a brothel on their doorstep, Even a legal one.
You can say its up to everyone to decide what is moral, but just look at what the industry is. Look at the distress it causes. Look at the people involved. And you think that legalising all that is right?[/I]
(that wasnt meant as an insult, But you understand the point im making)
(im partial to mental chess, So to speak) - Really, I can only point you to the final statement i made above.swolf said:
