Why would you want to wound someone? A wound in a fight is simply giving your opponent another chance to kill you. No weapons accept the most brutal ones are designed to wound; they are designed to kill. Wounding someone is not only pointless, its also insulting and dishonorable.Maraveno said:Edit : The point is that there is no grace in death, there is grace in mercy, you're view of elegance is quite strange if you feel it only has to do with the ability or inability to mortally wound, and that I mean in your way of putting it not mine
you're mistaken in your referral my friend
A gentlemans duel in swordsmanship can go on for hours on end , like a fencing match, or exactly like a fencing match cause that's swordsplay there, I don't know if you ever watched fencing?
Anyway, yeah you can go sit behind cover, there is still no grace in that
You're just sitting there
The point sir , is not wether or not it requires skill to use a gun or not, but if the gun is an elegant tool, as such it is not, for you just cannot duel a man with a gun as you can with a sword. unless you mean to tell me we're going to have man to man shooting matches in the olympics of 2012 which I would very much like to see
Untill you can prove me the last point, I'll give you the sport of fencing. modern day duels in swordsmanship, with no lethal outcome whatsoever
Catapults were the olden days equivalent of Artillery and so I thought this would do nicely...espressojet said:You said it was a sophisticated piece of equipment. So was the catapult. 'Nuff said.
Your argument would be good if the discussion was whether or not guns are awesome. Elegant is something quite different. Swords is to guns as figure skating is to ice hockey.ShotgunZombie said:So this is a thought that I've been mulling around in the old noggin'. Why isn't a gun considered an elegant weapon? I've heard it said that it's because guns take the challenge out of duel or fight, that it's over too quickly and that guns make said duels unsportsmanlike but I never bought that line of thinking.
The way I see guns are sophisticated pieces of equipment, powerful, intimidating and above all else they demand respect. A gun is something you do not handle lightly no matter how much experienced you may have with one unless you have a death wish, and forgive me for being blunt but they look pretty damn cool.
Hell you can even add decals or engravements to give them that last touch of finesse. So why are they still considered inelegant weapons? Alright you've heard my opinion so what's yours?
Metal Gear Solid 4 begs the differ. "War... Has changed."sofareal said:I don't know if this is an edit or I'm helping the "guns can so be elegant" side but, have you ever heard sniper squad chatter (sniper and spotter). Reading angle, wind speed, projected distance, targets movement, etc. That is elegance...beauty...what-have-you in it's purest form, Mathematics, pure sweet mathematics.
But remember people "War, War never Changes" (Thank you fallout)