Why so much hate for the Wii U?
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Uhh... You do realise that the PS4 and Xbone are on that list, right?Dexterity said:
Those are the only two that are really relevant at this stage, and likely the only consoles anyone is going to talk about in comparison with the WiiU.
Almost all other consoles? PSP, PS3, PS4 and Vita are all region free. If I wanted to pick up some obscure japanese title that has no chance of making it's way here, I can do so.Dexterity said:
It's archaic, because say I move to Europe, and would like to locally purchase games for my North American Wii U. Oh wait, nope, I can't.
Speaking of which, I know European gamers who occasionally import NA systems just to play Nintendo titles that take too long to get over there or don't at all.
Except anyone who's been on the internet long enough knows that's a load of bull. There is NO constructive criticism when it comes to this, it's just a bunch of people kicking and screaming on the floor until get their way. Unfortunately, as I said earlier, Nintendo also has the problem of trying to figure out which voices to listen to, because "gamers" have shown time and time again that even THEY don't know what they want. It's kind of hard to act accordingly when the disparate, fractured audiences all over the place can't reach a consensus or just constantly throw out mixed, contradictory signals that do nothing to help. If anything Nintendo should just ignore the screeching and just do what they've always done. The fact that they even tolerate the spoiled, immature, whinging layabouts that are gamers sure means they're a lot better people than I am.
What can Nintendo do to get people to buy their console? The people who will buy MK8 and Smash probably already have a Wii U. Could X and Bayonetta 2 help?
Nintendo should also work on getting accounts. A couple of months ago, I had to get a new tower for my computer. I would have been PISSED if I had to make a new account on the forums I go to.
Nintendo should also work on getting accounts. A couple of months ago, I had to get a new tower for my computer. I would have been PISSED if I had to make a new account on the forums I go to.
You know you and Shinji could just not click on those thread and not start typing to join in the conversation using your very will to do so?.Saltyk said:
Also thread titles that are designed to deliberately piss off a large group of people usually get locked, titles like "Wii U sucks balls" would get locked in moments or should at least, that's why you don't see those types around because they are outright designed to piss off more than a few, that's common sense really to not make a thread with a deliberate annoying title.
Titles like "Why you hate nintendo/U, why you they have to go third party?" are not deliberate annoying titles, slightly agitating at best but by no means as worse as "sucks" titles.
I'm also sick and tired of PC fans, always blaming and hating consoles and their reasons to exist along with the fanbase, I see that shit every time in almost every thread to do with a game on here, Blaze blu's recent thread had people asking for PC ports, even though the devs of the game won't visit this site and that thread and it;s already been made known that it's currently going to be PS3 exclusive so why bother typing that question out?.
Then there's those that technologically shit on hardware you're using that isn't hardware they're using with the constant spam of two words "inferior/superior", even though there's a massive vocabulary of words out there for other types of description those two words get used the most that it becomes downright insulting.
If anything it'd be easier for you and Shinji to ignore such Nintendo threads by not clicking on them and typing, for me however it's not the same since any thread here will mostly devolve into some PC vs console debate whether it be hardware and software or which dirty console is holding them games "hostage" as if they were damn dirty terrorists,
I remember those commercials. They were everywhere. It did exactly what it was supposed too and in the early years they made so much bank that no one could find one because of a shortage. If nothing else can be said about Iwata at least he stays the course and sticks to his guns. Not sure if you read it but there was an article that popped up a week or so ago about one of Nintendo's investors saying they should move Mario to smart phones saying microtransactions to make Mario jump a little higher would make the company millions. The comment section then proceeded say they wanted to punch him in the face and Iwata is firm on not having Mario and crew go whole hog onto iPhones and pulling crap like that. Taking a giant pay cut for the mess the Wii U became instead of laying off thousands. He's the captain that will go down with the ship rather than abandon everyone else to save himself or sell his soul to the devil.Neronium said:
At this stage in the game I look at Nintendo as the stubborn old man in an action movie. Been doing this for a while, knows the ropes, hits a stumbling block in their life causing a set back, but ultimately adapting because they are just too damn stubborn to go down without a fight.
They'll pull it out. They may take a few hits but they'll come out. Learn something and then move forward.
Shadow-Phoenix said:
A point I'd like to bring up on this actually.
As A PC gamer, I really actually commend Nintendo for trying to do something different for consoles rather than essentially trying to make overly expensive and mediocre PCs.
Nintendo offers something different, something I can't (Without excessive effort, at present.) get on the PC. And that's probably why they're always been at least slightly interesting for me.
Nintendo consoles are priced reasonably for what they are and don't pretend to be something they're not.
Unfortunately, there's a distinct lack of games I'd actually want to play beyond the Monster Hunter series, however.
The audience for the Wii has long since moved on to smartphones and tablets. That's kind of the problem with targeting the more casual gamer as it were: the sort of person who plays occasionally, likes simple games, and isn't heavily invested in playing games as a hobby. As soon as the new it thing comes around they vanish in the blink of an eye.JacksonDemolition said:
And if most of them are anything like my parents (who bought a Wii), they own tablets so they can play something simple WHILE watching TV and see no need for a console that they don't even understand, and doesn't offer them anything they care about that they don't already have.
More like the old master in a martial arts anime. They deal with cocky, arrogant neophytes all the time who don't know how big the world is and then proceed to flick said brats so hard they go through five walls. Of course, unlike those shows in which said brats get over themselves and mature, they're having to deal with a bunch of cowardly little shits who go crying back to mama.KazeAizen said:
Part of the hate is due to misinformation as well, I can see it in the thread, the classic "WiiU has no games", which is just untrue, it actually has quite a lot of games, just people for some reason ignore them or bat them away with "Oh i don't like those".
What they really mean is "I don't like the games on it" which is valid complaint to some people but individual to each person, and different from "It has no games" which is just false, considering it has more games than the current next gen consoles (yes due to being out for longer but that doesn't stop people shouting it)
Then there's the classic "Nintendo has no accounts system", again quoted on here, which again is wrong, they do have an accounts system, all of your purchases are tied to an account, its why you can see miiverse on your phone and make purchases via the other consoles. Its just that these accounts are tied to a single console unless you contact customer support.
Now most of us will never hit this, and again its reasonable to be slightly annoyed (not to the level that some people take it mind you) that you can't log into your mates machine to play a game, but the shouting of "WiiU has no accounts system" is not accurate, but repeated none the less.
However both of these things have been shouted so often that they have gained a truthfulness in peoples eyes.
Basically its the same as cloud convincing himself hes a member of Solider
If you shout something often enough people believe its true regardless of the facts.
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Oh and there is also the "Should be 100$ cheaper and drop the gamepad", despite zero evidence that the gamepad actually costs 100$. Closest thing we had was a price conversion from yen to dollars on the cost ove rthere, but that was a sell to retail price, and again , quoted as fact since its taken on a truth simply because everyone quotes it. This is used as a "its overpriced because of the gamepad", then you add on the "no-one has used the gamepad well" , which ignores Nintendoland and Zombie U etc. Its just a lot of people who are ill informed shouting the same thing over and over and it taking on its own story.
What they really mean is "I don't like the games on it" which is valid complaint to some people but individual to each person, and different from "It has no games" which is just false, considering it has more games than the current next gen consoles (yes due to being out for longer but that doesn't stop people shouting it)
Then there's the classic "Nintendo has no accounts system", again quoted on here, which again is wrong, they do have an accounts system, all of your purchases are tied to an account, its why you can see miiverse on your phone and make purchases via the other consoles. Its just that these accounts are tied to a single console unless you contact customer support.
Now most of us will never hit this, and again its reasonable to be slightly annoyed (not to the level that some people take it mind you) that you can't log into your mates machine to play a game, but the shouting of "WiiU has no accounts system" is not accurate, but repeated none the less.
However both of these things have been shouted so often that they have gained a truthfulness in peoples eyes.
Basically its the same as cloud convincing himself hes a member of Solider
If you shout something often enough people believe its true regardless of the facts.[EDIT]
Oh and there is also the "Should be 100$ cheaper and drop the gamepad", despite zero evidence that the gamepad actually costs 100$. Closest thing we had was a price conversion from yen to dollars on the cost ove rthere, but that was a sell to retail price, and again , quoted as fact since its taken on a truth simply because everyone quotes it. This is used as a "its overpriced because of the gamepad", then you add on the "no-one has used the gamepad well" , which ignores Nintendoland and Zombie U etc. Its just a lot of people who are ill informed shouting the same thing over and over and it taking on its own story.
No hate from me, just zero interest in their hardware and games. But personally i think they should stick with what they are doing, they are different to XB1/PS4 and have their own games.
The Gamepad costs $140 to replace. [http://wiiudaily.com/2013/02/wii-u-gamepad-costs-around-140-to-replace/] If it costs anything less than $100 for Nintendo to make, there would be no reason for Nintendo to have the price so high, especially since it's a replacement and they shouldn't expect to make a big profit from it.Milky1985 said:Part of the hate is due to misinformation as well, I can see it in the thread, the classic "WiiU has no games", which is just untrue, it actually has quite a lot of games, just people for some reason ignore them or bat them away with "Oh i don't like those".
What they really mean is "I don't like the games on it" which is valid complaint to some people but individual to each person, and different from "It has no games" which is just false, considering it has more games than the current next gen consoles (yes due to being out for longer but that doesn't stop people shouting it)
Then there's the classic "Nintendo has no accounts system", again quoted on here, which again is wrong, they do have an accounts system, all of your purchases are tied to an account, its why you can see miiverse on your phone and make purchases via the other consoles. Its just that these accounts are tied to a single console unless you contact customer support.
Now most of us will never hit this, and again its reasonable to be slightly annoyed (not to the level that some people take it mind you) that you can't log into your mates machine to play a game, but the shouting of "WiiU has no accounts system" is not accurate, but repeated none the less.
However both of these things have been shouted so often that they have gained a truthfulness in peoples eyes.
Basically its the same as cloud convincing himself hes a member of Solider
[EDIT]
Oh and there is also the "Should be 100$ cheaper and drop the gamepad", despite zero evidence that the gamepad actually costs 100$. Closest thing we had was a price conversion from yen to dollars on the cost ove rthere, but that was a sell to retail price, and again , quoted as fact since its taken on a truth simply because everyone quotes it. This is used as a "its overpriced because of the gamepad", then you add on the "no-one has used the gamepad well" , which ignores Nintendoland and Zombie U etc. Its just a lot of people who are ill informed shouting the same thing over and over and it taking on its own story.
What does saying that gain you though?, there's actual discussion to be had but asking the "can we have a PC port" type question doesn't really do much of anything, it's like saying "can we have it in orange?".Vivi22 said:
Nintendo is doing what it does best, and that is cater to the family and small child community. The people that are "hating" are late twenty-year-old to mid-forty-year-old who don't have kids, and can't seem to understand that a normal eight year old likes these kinds of games. The Wii U has made a leap by adding games like Bayonetta 2, trying to bring in more adult users, but they are sticking to what they are good at. I love Nintendo for that reason, it is family friendly, and most of the M-rated games that do make it into the Nintendo system are third-party.