I haven't played GTA 5's story mode in a while, but ya got me on that one. You have the option to play as the white guys. You wanted -no- options, so there ya are.Witty Name Here said:Ah, you're afraid of answering the question in earnest aren't you? You're repeating the "WHY JRPG?!" Line as though it were of some importance.Rebel_Raven said:Again, why's it gotta be limited to JRPGs? You won't answer anything on that, so why should I bend over backwards to please your demands on a list? I don't keep track of every last game that comes out, but I do try, and I do keep up with the mainstream games which helps keep me ticked at the industry.
Character customization, and gender select is pretty wide spread in eastern games, and I'd take that over not having it at all, and being forced to play as a straight white guy almost all the time.
I can't even think of a within the year western game where you primarily play as a black man with no option, nevermind an eastern one.
GTA doesn't even hold up to the rest of the terms in the paragraph. Online is character creation, thus playing as a black man is an option. Offline you can't beat the story mode only playing as Lamar, and even then, he's an option.
Hey, you're not even telling me why it has to be limited to JRPGs, so why do I gotta go through the effort of making a list?
I'm not dumb enough to believe any section of the industry has diversity perfect. I know it, in general, has a long way to go.
You'll notice I didn't ask you to list JRPGs. I said list any eastern game. That's even in my post that you just quoted. The JRPG bit was an accident because that's pretty much the only "eastern" games I play with any seriousness.
As for not being forced to play as a black guy in GTA, you'd be dead wrong there. In fact, hilariously so since you can't even remember the black character's name. Lamar is the friend of Franklin the black character that yes, you are forced to play. You MUST play as Franklin in the intro and you MUST complete Franklin's missions to progress the story. Sure you can choose to play as one of the other protagonists when you're just running around and causing chaos, but like it or not you HAVE to play as a black character in GTA 5.
So there, I explained the JRPG bit. So now there's no "hiding". List. Right now.
You're making the claim that Eastern games are more diverse, so I'm going to call you on it. The east is more Xenophobic than the west, like it or not, as for character customization being "widely used" in eastern games, that is also a lie for the most part. Excluding MMOs the majority of the time you are stuck with one static, unchanging character with maybe one or two unlockable outfits. Such as in Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, any of the resident evil games, phoenix wright, Super Smash Bros, and so on.
Oh and on that point of unlockable outfits...
...clearly treats people of color with respect. Clearly.
But that's besides the point. I asked you for a list and you're expected to provide it. No getting hung up on semantics now.
Okay, lets get to your question. Since you're interested in word of letter,
Honestly, I can't name a single game listed in the past year where you have to play as a black guy start to finish. Then again I can't think of any western games, either. As far back as I can remember, neither has had a great track record, but the west wins out since I can at least name Prototype 2, and GTA San Andreas.Can you name even three eastern games, made in the last year, where the main character is black. Not a character "option", the main character, the protagonist you're primarily playing as, is a black man.
Again, GTA V does not count in my book. I hold it up to the same standards as I'd put playing as a woman, LGBT, etc. You play as Franklin part of the time, and you have no choice but to play as other people. Honestly, part of the time is not good enough for me. Better than nothing, but enough to keep me ticked.
Hell, I can barely think games that let you play anything other than a straight white guy released within the year with no choice in the matter! Hell, primarily as, even.
A few games as women as I'm primarily about playing as them, but still.
If you feel the western gaming industry depicts black people better, that's your call. I don't know what standards you look for.
How is it a lie? As far as I've experienced, eastern games have a larger amount of character creation options than the west, and are less keen on saying "It's too hard! We aren't doing it even though it was planned for from the start!"
From experience with previous games, and I have a lot, Koei lets you change your character's clothes all the time when character creation is involved, and gives a wide selection of character creation options, and the clothes often have no bearing on character properties meaning you can wear what ever.
Tomodachi life lets you change clothes, and hair color almost whenever you want provided you buy the clothes first, and have hair color spray.
Might be cheating, but since WWE (Something I'd imagine is largely american) games are made by Yukes (a Japanese company) but the character customization there is off the scale compared to most games. Sims seems to be just barely catching up on appearances.
Saints Row 2, 3, and 4 is a good rival character creation system. Volition's a fav company of mine. They're western, and not keen on BS excuses on wimping out on diversity.
Way of the Samurai, a series not released this year, lets you customize your character's appearance in between story plays, and change clothes whenever. They've had sort of a reoccurring character in having a black Samurai (Wots 1 had him as an enthusiast of the samurai way, 2 I hadn't played, 3 had the character as a woman but with similar style as WotS1, 4 had him as a guy that ran out on a check, and little development. Didn't sit well with me, but at least he got a unique sword.) in several periods of time in Japan that history fanatical people would probably complain bitterly that a foreigner wouldn't belong. That said, you could make your character look like the running character via unlocks.
Pokemon X, and Y lets you character design, and lets you change clothes.
Hang on, static as in once you make the character you're set? Or you can't change any features of the character, just their clothes?
Oh come -on- I even admit that RE5 could've handled things better. Talking about that, you're going well beyond your 1 year rule. Not only that, Sheva's barely the option. You can't play as her in single player until you beat the game (I hate that in games). You can only be her in multiplayer if you're player 2 unless you've beaten the game. Even then someone has to be Chris. He got a sweet gating gun, and it was hillarious watching Wesker "dodge" the gating gun fire, but meh.
Sheva arguably got one of the best weapons in the game, though. Seen her other costumes? They all aren't that bad. I'm not defending the depiction, though.
You're awful keen on wandering off topic, breaking and bending your own rules, and so forth.