Why the belief Digimon copied pokemon?

[Asher1991]

Like honestly, YOU never answered the question. If you're so high and mighty and well informed about this deep intellectual topic then stop your trolling and stop your hating. Put your facts/opinion down and respectfully accept everybody else's comments. Nobody here is looking for a flame war, nobody really cares that much. Do you see people arguing? No, just you.

Anywho, from what I remember, obviously there are differences between the two shows/anime/games etc. Saying things like "the plots were different" or "they didn't capture them, they only had one" like thats just nitpicking; when you copy a franchise like that your going to redo it so that yours can supersede the original. Its just like the vampire thing right now. Twilight had four books out before they made the movies, so it wasn't as popular. But once the movies came out, tons of vampire related movies/shows/books jumped on the bandwagon because that main theme seemed to sell well; sexy modern vampires. Its like the show True Blood; nobody can look at that and say, "There's an original idea, I'm sure that would have come out without Twilight being popular." Same deal there. There are obvious similarities to the point that it's not coincidence. It's the same theme and it's been stated before. Children. Creature monsters that like to hang around for kicks and giggles. Other creature things that like to fight with a various number of often elemental based attacks. It's no more or less copying than anything else. But it doesn't matter; competition breeds higher quality.

Er... Not to be a prissy ***** here... But the Sookie Stackhouse novels by Charlaine Harris were around well before Meyer's sad attempt at anti-literature in the form of softcore porn... If you did the slightest modicum of research into modern writing, you'd find that not only are Harris's novels the basis for TrueBlood, but Laurell K. Hamilton and Anne Rice had the "sexy vampires" thing covered YEARS before Meyer. If you wanted to make a convincing argument, you should've gone with Vampire Diaries being a rip of TrueBlood, or Meyer being a rip of Rice, or something that holds up under scrutiny.

Pop Culture Knowledge. Get it.

/rant

 

[Jack and Calumon]

As I did in the last one of these threads, Capusule Monsters (Or Capumon) is more of a rip off than Digimon is. Brings up the question of whether Japan likes the whole noun-mon. There might be so much more we know nothing about.

Capumon is from Yu-Gi-Oh but in the 4kids dub it was just changed back to Capsule Monsters to avoid everyone noticing similarities.

Calumon: Digimon had the guts to stand up to it! ^^

 

[superbatranger]

I always thought it was that whole -mon suffix.

 

[Dexiro]

It does seem like someone saw the Pokemon series and thought "Lets do something like that!".

Other than the names though they actually did a really good job of keeping it original. It has it's own story, it's own style of monsters, and like hell if I know how the evolution thing works. Most I've gathered is that it's like a superpowered tamagotchi.

Or maybe Digimon came before Pokemon, I have no idea.

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

Pssh, they don't even compare. Digimon beat the shit out of Pokemon. Best kid's show ever. That was like, my childhood.

 

[Sleekgiant]

Alright,No this isn't a ***** thread. (Well,MAYBE at the people who are asses about it and claim with no proof.) But they came out about the same time,Pokemon in Games and Digimon in Keychain pets,But really the only thing they share is the monster angle,and that could mean godzeera was the original pokemon. I felt Digimon was for the more mature child while pokemon was for children whop wanted something funny with something cute. What are you angles on the Similaritys?

Spoiler: For Jack

Okay, I'm going to see a play. I hope that for nce when I go see one, a Digimon thread doesn't pop up. If one does... I demand either fire or flowers.

X3

Real reason, broadcasting. Pokemon came on more well known channels where I lived and Digimon came on the obscure channels the weird kids watched.

 

[Nexus4]

It was simply inspired by Pokemon and not copied. Why don't we consider every fps a copy of doom, or every rock band an Elvis copier? Because people take a formula that clearly works and give their own touches to it. It's the same in all forms of media.

 

[Thaius]

Digimon is like a romance, in that one person and one monster share a bond and partnership fully reliant on trust and inter-dependability. Pokemon is like a movie about a king and his concubines; he is responsible for their well-being, and they are dependent on him, but in the end it's a matter of developing enough of an emotional connection to each to use them for his own purposes, and not much more.

That said, I like both, but I find Digimon to be thematically superior in every way. And superior in most other ways too.

 

[Caliostro]

I've seen both and... Mostly because they're essentially the same fucking thing...?

Kids that pick up "portable" companion monsters to fight battles for them and go on increasingly random and contrived adventures.

If there is a difference, from what I remember, is that the Pokemon crew comes across as more of a dick, while the digimon crew are more along the lines of retards. The Pokemon guys use enslaved animals to beat up and enslave further animals, for no particular use or reason but to enslave more animals for some demented collection. Meanwhile the digimon guys just seem to act more on random and malconstructed lines of arbitrary though than anything. "OH NO! MY PET IS DYING! I'LL JUST SIT HERE AND MOTIVATE HIM!".

Both series are pretty terrible, so neither should be doing much bragging about "being the first"...

 

[THEfog101]

Pokemon
Digimon

Well played good sir!

 

[AgentBJ09]

You're saying it wasn't a ripoff because of a couple of keychain pets?

That's not even logic, what the two of them are famous for are being shows where teens go around catching weird monsters and evolve them. Even though there wasn't as much of the catching in Digimon as in Pokemon, the facts remain. Pokemon set a ground as a game, and later on an anime, about kids catching monsters. Digimon set a ground as a keychain pet.

Fair enough,But I mean the only ground I see is the monsters part,the evolution was a bit different,but still on a basis. Every anime has a transformation of some sort nowadays if its actiony,just called evolution there. As for the games,The base is sort of the same,it IS more about catching in some,but the pokemon games have the catching Genre set in stone,whil the Digimon Worlds changed contantly. 1 was a daycare raising sort of thing,2 a crawler with random battles like final fantasy games,3 was about collecting cards,and 4 was a battler. Data Squad was an Anime game. Similarities Exist,but the differences are more direct.

Digimon debuted 16 months after Pokemon, but not on the Gameboy. They debuted on a set of Tamogachi virtual pets that Bandai created to appeal to males since the Tamogachi was liked mostly by females.

Even the Digimon Adventure movie was just a short film. It was never meant to lead into a TV series, but lo and behold Bandai's pets were so popular they received a request to create a TV series before the film was even done.

However, Digimon became the series it did because the writers were given free reign to tell some good stories in the respective universes.

Cases in point:

Matt and T.K. - Their parents divorce and Matt's hatred towards his mother because of it.
Tai - His guilt for nearly causing Kari's death years before.
Joe - His questioning of what his father wanted from him, I.E. to become a doctor. (Edo Period tradition, though.) Yoshino in Savers had similar issues with her mother.
Cody - Overcoming his phobia of water and coming to terms with his father's death.

Seriously, if you look at any of the Digimon seasons, it's clear that the characters are more realistic, despite the awkward dialogue at times. (Also, don't forget that one of the head writers of Serial Experiments Lain and Neon Genesis Evangelion had a hand in Digimon Tamers.)

The games have been all over the place since Digimon World 1, but overall they're fun to play, especially the DS games.

Actually, here's an idea Namco/Bandai, free of charge: (Not really.)

Make a Digimon game with Dynasty/Samurai/Gundam Warriors gameplay, expanded RPG elements, and an open world like what we see in Skate 3 or Just Cause 2. I can almost guarantee that people will love it.

 

[hurfdurp]

There are some glaring similarities to Pokemon. Not surprising though, give the people what they want.

 

[starwarsgeek]

Because, at least in America, the Pokemon anime came first.

To be fair, it has far more in common with Transformers (cartoon made to advertise a line of toys. The plot had shapeshifting heroes and their human friends fighting off evil invaders from Earth--At least, during the Myotismon arc and the movies)

 

[The3rdEye]

Alright,No this isn't a ***** thread. (Well,MAYBE at the people who are asses about it and claim with no proof.) But they came out about the same time,Pokemon in Games and Digimon in Keychain pets,But really the only thing they share is the monster angle,and that could mean godzeera was the original pokemon. I felt Digimon was for the more mature child while pokemon was for children whop wanted something funny with something cute. What are you angles on the Similaritys?

Spoiler: For Jack

Okay, I'm going to see a play. I hope that for nce when I go see one, a Digimon thread doesn't pop up. If one does... I demand either fire or flowers.

Pokemon had a stronger media presence, received more media attention (remember the seizure warnings for the first movie?) and had it's animated series released in NA first (I believe). People had a higher chance of being exposed to Pokemon over Digimon, so when they eventually DID see Digimon they figured it was a clone regardless of the actual dates involved in their creation.

 

[Something Amyss]

There can only be one type of anything. Whatever is known first means that anything else is a copy. Even if it came out at the same time (or earlier).

 

[theSovietConnection]

Probably because the Pokemon anime came out a year earlier. At least, I believe that's how it went for North America at least.

Pokemon aired 1997 whereas Digimon was invented in 1993 as a male alternative to the Tamaguchi.

Uhh, everywhere I look, the Digimon virtual pet is stated as being released in '97. Even the Bandai license for Digimon doesn't start until then.

Digimon: © Akiyoshi Hongo · Toei Animation. TM & © 1997-2007 Bandai. DIGIMON, DIGITAL MONSTERS and all related logos, names and distinctive likenesses thereof are the property of Bandai/Toei Animation. Used under license by Bandai America Incorporated. All Rights Reserved.


Anyways, the similarities from an outside perspective really aren't all that hard to notice. IT's kids fighting monsters with their own monsters that evolve. And if you aren't a fan of either, that's really all you see.

 

[Brad Shepard]

There can only be one type of anything. Whatever is known first means that anything else is a copy. Even if it came out at the same time (or earlier).

that logic is so flawed that it caused a earthquake.

So final fantasy was one of the first RPGs, does that mean Mass Effect copied it?

 

[Sanguinius- The Angel]

I'd personally say it was the other way around, but meh.

 

[Death God]

Pokemon was first and they revolve around the same basic idea. More or less at least.

 

[Lullabye]

Even if it was a ripoff, it was still better. Much better.
hell, even the new seasons of digimon are better than the new seasons of pokemon.