Why the hate for violence.

[Glerken]

Violence is a major part of life all life.

Wait...How?

Without violence there be no sun

Wait..What?

no sex

No rape maybe, but no sex?

I'd say people hate violence because it's so damn violent.

Edit:

For those who ask about the sun it's a big engine consuming hydrogen to put out heat, radiation, and many other things the act of consuming, heating, radiating are the acts of violence. Violence comes in many forms isn't just about hitting.

You can't equate a natural process to an act like rape or murder. You can go and say it's technically violence, but that's not what people think of when they hear the word violence and I think you know that.

No one is against the sun continuing to burn.
People are against murders.
No one is against the type of "violence" you're referring to in your original post.

 

[jthwilliams]

no sun

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I'm just curious about your why you think violence = existance of the sun. If you are thinking violent reaction like the nuclear reaction that is the sun that is a very different mean of violence and basically means energetic.

It's simple. God woke up one day, went to a ball of gasses and said "I swear to myself, if you don't form a sun right now I'll punch you so hard it'll bring about the Big Crunch early".

Lrn2Science

Isn't that child abuse? I mean threatening his Sun like that.

Well God is supposedly omnipresent, right? So it would be... flagellation? Self-abuse? By the stars and heavens, God is emo.

I lol'ed myself a bit.

 

[FoOd77]

Personally, I feel very strongly about the saying "Might makes right". I can't think of any problem that can't be solved with force, granted enough is applied. Thats just the way the world works, isn't it? I think so.

My two cents, anyway.

so what your saying is if someones problem is that they need money, and they shoot you in the face, and take yours, then their answer to their problem is correct because they utilized enough force to solve it.

might doesn't make right, it just solves a problem by starting another one.

How would that make another problem? Wouldn't I be dead? If so, I have nothing to worry about! Certainly not a problem for me, anyways.

 

[RelexCryo]

TROLL ALERT!! The reference to sex being inherently violent makes it obvious. DO NOT FEED THE TROLL.

That said, I guess our cells are committing violence every mintue of every day against bacteria and viruses, but that isn't what most people think of when they think of violence. At any rate, I believe we play violent videogames for the same basic reason kittens and puppies play hunter, and the same basic reason kids would play cops and robbers or cowboys and Indians- because most boys, and some girls, have an inherent instinct to play "warrior", possibly in preparation for adulthood, and the trials and dangers of adult life in the Stone Age.

 

[CrazyCapnMorgan]

Violence has been human's answer, thus far, for nearly everything it has done and has solved most of the major issues the world has come to know.

For those that say violence shouldn't be an answer, please put yourself in a room with Sun Tzu, Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Hannibal, Zhuge Liang, Leonidas, Attila the Hun, Alexander the Great, William Wallace, Joan of Arc, Adolf Hitler, Dick Cheney and Colin Powell and try to imagine how the conversation would go. Assuming, of course, the atmosphere would be calm enough for words, not the dismembering of body parts, and that everyone could communicate and understand one another verbally.

That's not to say that violence SHOULD be the answer, either. Sadly, as human history has taught us, those who have strived for non-violent answers to worldly concerns have rarely met with success, and those that have succeeded, in whatever form, were either killed in the process or killed after the non-violent resistance.

 

[jthwilliams]

Knee-jerk reaction I guess. It always blows people's mind when I explain the sheer violence going on under the hood of their car when they start their engine.

Different meaning. Violence meaning energy and power. The OP was referencing violence in the sense of killing, maming, fighting, hurting. None of which happen in a car engine. (normally at least)

You do realise that an AK47 uses the exact same method to pop a fool that a 350 uses to pop a tire, right? Both use expanding gas produced by burning a chemical propellant in a confined area to propel a round metal object down a tube. Sure one's a high-powered killing tool and the other is a method of moving heavy objects around, but in the end they're both using expanding gas to do work.


Besides 350s are known for killing and maiming. They don't need an assault rifle's help for that. Just someone careless enough to wear a loose, long-sleeve shirt while adjusting the carb...

And an AKA isn't violent in the sense used by the OP: Shooting someone with a AKA is, but Shooting say a target wouldn't really be. I realise this could be honestly confusing because something canse be violent in 3 or 4 different senses of the word at the same time.

But ask yourself this. If you pop'ed the hood, turned on a car engine and put on TV for 5 hours do you really think people would be complaining because it was so violent.

So basically you are practicing straw man here. you are taking the arguement and turning it into something it clearly isn't to say it is ridiculous.

 

[Shadowkire]

For those who ask about the sun it's a big engine consuming hydrogen to put out heat, radiation, and many other things the act of consuming, heating, radiating are the acts of violence. Violence comes in many forms isn't just about hitting.

Then you sir need to refine your understanding of our hate, for nobody except the clown that lives in the dark void connected to all closets hates the chemical forms of violence.

But you already knew that, didn't you? Of course you did, you just pointed out that violence isn't just hitting, which means you knew all along people are against the hitting kind of violence. So instead of just sitting back and doing something more constructive you started a thread on a bogus premise for the premise of getting people riled.

You sir, are a troll.

[edit]
...or an idiot.

 

[Shadowkire]

TROLL ALERT!! The reference to sex being inherently violent makes it obvious. DO NOT FEED THE TROLL.

Indeed sir, indeed.

 

[blankedboy]

omg ikr i fukkn hate ppl that thnk vilenc is a bad thng im gona fukkn rape u all

Uh huh.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

It sounds like the OP was trying to make a comment about chemical reactions and fusion, but didn't have the intelligence to articulate it. He just made himself sound like a jerk...

 

[jthwilliams]

And an AK isn't violent in the sense used by the OP: Shooting someone with a AK is, but Shooting say a target wouldn't really be. I realise this could be honestly confusing because something canse be violent in 3 or 4 different senses of the word at the same time.

Violence is violence. Doesn't matter what type of violence it is.


It's like getting pissy because someone called a Suburban a car. It's being pedantic.

But ask yourself this. If you pop'ed the hood, turned on a car engine and put on TV for 5 hours do you really think people would be complaining because it was so violent.

Depends on whether or not the production team throws the x-ray filter on it. If they do, then yes, they would see the violence going on in there.


Just because the average joe doesn't know about it and can't see it doesn't mean it isn't violent.

So basically you are practicing straw man here. you are taking the arguement and turning it into something it clearly isn't to say it is ridiculous.

No, I'm not. I'm saying that violence is everywhere you look and that people need to get over their knee-jerk reaction to certain forms of it.

So what you are saying is that you think people who complain about violence in video games and TV are concerned about quick motion and chemical reactions? That there are a significant number of people in the world who find nondistructive but energetic movement disburbing and potentially an issue when children are exposed to them?

Because if you do believe that than, you are incorrect and can stop worrying. When they talk about violence on TV and in games, they mean the type that cuase harm to simulated living beings and/or is distructive and meant to be distructive. More over they gernally attach intent as accidental violence is usually exempt from peoples concerns except when talking about very small children.

If not, than you're clearly building a strawman to suggest there is hate out there for chemestry.

 

[Donbett1974]

Then you sir need to refine your understanding of our hate, for nobody except the clown that lives in the dark void connected to all closets hates the chemical forms of violence.

But you already knew that, didn't you? Of course you did, you just pointed out that violence isn't just hitting, which means you knew all along people are against the hitting kind of violence. So instead of just sitting back and doing something more constructive you started a thread on a bogus premise for the premise of getting people riled.

You sir, are a troll.

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...or an idiot.

I did this hoping that most people would understand what I'm saying or at least consider seeing something from a different point of view but only a few did. It makes me ask are we really smarter or just have more knowledge it may be we are still the people who think the world's flat.

 

[jthwilliams]

It sounds like the OP was trying to make a comment about chemical reactions and fusion, but didn't have the intelligence to articulate it. He just made himself sound like a jerk...

Only issue, is that I really don't think there is any hate out there for chemistry. I guess there is some hate for nuclear fussion.


Are you saying that he meant to post "Why is there so much hate for nuclear fussion?" because if so I'm all on be with being on his side. I know what is going on in Japan and End to End it is still safer, cleaner and better than anything else we currently have at hand.

 

[zehydra]

*stabs OP*

You're right! This is great! *stabs*

Lol, OP, what are you talking about?

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

It sounds like the OP was trying to make a comment about chemical reactions and fusion, but didn't have the intelligence to articulate it. He just made himself sound like a jerk...

Only issue, is that I really don't think there is any hate out there for chemistry. I guess there is some hate for nuclear fussion.

Are you saying that he meant to post "Why is there so much hate for nuclear fussion?" because if so I'm all on be with being on his side. I know what is going on in Japan and End to End it is still safer, cleaner and better than anything else we currently have at hand.

I meant he was referring to reactions as violence, particles colliding and suchlike. However I don't think this is clear to people, especially not the way he put it. It was probably intentional as a troll.

 

[jthwilliams]

It sounds like the OP was trying to make a comment about chemical reactions and fusion, but didn't have the intelligence to articulate it. He just made himself sound like a jerk...

Only issue, is that I really don't think there is any hate out there for chemistry. I guess there is some hate for nuclear fussion.

Are you saying that he meant to post "Why is there so much hate for nuclear fussion?" because if so I'm all on be with being on his side. I know what is going on in Japan and End to End it is still safer, cleaner and better than anything else we currently have at hand.

I meant he was referring to reactions as violence, particles colliding and suchlike. However I don't think this is clear to people, especially not the way he put it. It was probably intentional as a troll.

Is there hate for chemistry then? Some new trend in the youth groups I've missed? Down with the sun, screw fire, damn combustion engines?

 

[Shadowkire]

Then you sir need to refine your understanding of our hate, for nobody except the clown that lives in the dark void connected to all closets hates the chemical forms of violence.

But you already knew that, didn't you? Of course you did, you just pointed out that violence isn't just hitting, which means you knew all along people are against the hitting kind of violence. So instead of just sitting back and doing something more constructive you started a thread on a bogus premise for the premise of getting people riled.

You sir, are a troll.

[edit]
...or an idiot.

I did this hoping that most people would understand what I'm saying or at least consider seeing something from a different point of view but only a few did. It makes me ask are we really smarter or just have more knowledge it may be we are still the people who think the world's flat.

Hate to break this to you: humans are hardwired to be delusional.

The most honest-with-themselves people are those who are depressed, because they see things for what they are and don't BS themselves into thinking things are better than they are in reality.

That said, there are in fact people who still think the world is flat. Yeah...

 

[Najos]

This topic has been beat to death on this sight more times than i can count how can i not advocate it.

But how would there be no Sun!!?? or Sex!??-what kinda sex are you having.

The best kind. Giggity.

OP: I get your point, but you're still a troll. I personally don't really think violence is that bad. I think of it as a natural part of our species, something we're never going to get rid of.

 

[Yopaz]

http://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/173169-Kevin/169/32/lolwut_verbose_display.jpg

There's different kinds of "violence", obviously. This entire thing reads like a troll post.

Yeah, I agree there. He does a fairy bad job of it too, it doesn't make people angry, it just makes most go wtf.

 

[paledragon64]

Without violence, there'd be no sun. How do you think the sun got there? How come we have a sun, and other galaxies don't? It's just too much of a coincidence-can't explain that.