Why the internet hatred for furry?

[LeKiller]

I'm a furry and very rarely got shit for it because...well...I kept it to myself.
Thing is, just like the second guy said, it's grown into a culture. The only real problem is that the furries who consider it a fetish are generally very, very annoying. I consider this one of my worst traits, and I don't exactly consider myself a better person for it. I've seen some people who need to learn to tolerate other people's interests, and I've seen some who are righteously pissed off.
I guess that's about all I have to say, I don't think this thread is really gonna be any form of productive/actually solving anything.

 

[stefman]

This image [http://i44.tinypic.com/2cn8oxt.png] pretty much sums it all up. :/

And yes, it's safe to click. Just some text I couldn't be arsed to transcribe.

I gotta say, that's basically it. Well put too.

 

[Something Amyss]

...You're kidding.

A couple of the "why all the Pony hate" threads on here came from folks who were spamming pony pics everywhere. In other words, they can't even claim it was some minority that doesn't represent them, because is freaking was them in the first place.

No, I'm really not kidding. Kinda wish I was. I'm live and let live. I don't care about Ponies. I don't care about furries. I do care when you spam up the websites I visit with your shit and then whine about the "hate."

To use your example, nobody would like it if I spent all my time tossing Doctor Who pics into my posts, had a Doctor Who avatar, and used Doctor Who terminology all the fucking time. I'm a Who fan. A pretty big one, in fact, and yes, I make the occasional reference. But I know how to not be annoying (to the surprise of many). I really wish others would take the clue and not be huge jerks. Or at least, not be surprised when backlash from being huge jerks shows up.

And yeah, the lost fans were pretty bad.

 

[lacktheknack]

It's pretty simple:

People don't hate people who have my main fetish. Which one? Not telling you, thank you very much.

Now I really want to know what it is. Unless it's a fetish frequently featured in shock videos.

Not at all. But I said earlier that I don't go blabbing about my sexual hangups, so I won't.

 

[Something Amyss]

I'm going to try to make this as simple as possible. Think of making a character in a game. The customization part. You change the clothes, what weapons they're good at etc. Why not the species? That is all being a furry is.

So it's limited to a computer game and not applied anywhere else?

Even furries have different version of furries.

And yet, you're telling people to research. Kinda...Backwards. the problem is, when there's no unified culture, it's really hard to actually criticise people for "getting it wrong."

The problem with that researc is that, lacking a cultural context, it's worthless. Culturally, "furries" can be both exclusive and inclusive, and a lot of people define them based on convenience. The definitions you gave via wikifur are so general as to be allmsot literally meaningless.

They're also not what's being talked about. It'd be like if someone made a post about punk and I started ranting about the Velvet Underground, even though I know what they actually mean.

 

[Don Savik]

To say its not a fetish is stupid and childish. To get people to read into the different branches and sects and factions of people who like animalpeople is part of the reason THAT NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT IT. People don't care if your one of the "good and pure ones" when they DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.

"its the fun thing to do herp derp" Well, yes, it is the majority that hates them and some find it fun, but there are reasons why. Obviously with a stance of fucking animal people your going to be in the minority, now why people pick on you is because you don't keep it to yourselves.

I'm sorry if you like it and there's a "minority that ruins it for everyone" (even though the majority seen talks on and on and on and on about it just like bronies..) but the reason stands is because people don't want to get bludgeoned over the head with it.

I'm positive that bronies and furries would be tolerated a lot more if they weren't so pushy and immature about how others view them.

 

[Char-Nobyl]

That image looks awfully similar to the arguments for/against homosexuality. Not saying anything either way (here); just take a good look at it.

Yeaaah, except that homosexuality isn't a fetish.

If it looks like a duck...

"But it isn't the same at all!" is not and has never been a good argument. One must show definitively WHY it is not the same, and I for one remain solidly unconvinced with regards to this particular debate.

Wait, what? How is homosexuality a 'fetish'? Sexual orientation is a trait in a person that governs their entire romantic life, and when it comes to homosexuality, it reaches into other spheres, too.

If you're a furry, it's not like you're going to encounter an anthropomorphic badger and fall madly in love, forcing you to choose between trying to sustain a secret but meaningful relationship or being open about it and risking the disapproval of others. Being gay isn't just some sexual turn-on, and it's rather insulting that your only tactic for defending furries is to either hitching your wagon to the gay-rights movement or, if that doesn't fly, boldfacedly saying that homosexuality is 'just a weird sex thing.'

 

[Something Amyss]

When you think about it, a lot of people despise those type of fans as well.

But there's nowhere near the level of hate. Even for the Twihards you next mention.

 

[KafkaOffTheBeach]

Unsurprisingly, the Bronies seem to have the same persecution fetish.

Fucking this.
It isn't the whole 'borderline bestiality' thing.
I just don't want to deal with people who are, essentially, internet-based masochists - sweating over every minor flame or denial like it was a lover's caress, and then proceeding to demand more in some sort of strange, cyclical ritual of justification.

 

[Blow_Pop]

the same reason for the my little pony hate.

Unsurprisingly, the Bronies seem to have the same persecution fetish.

Also unsurprisingly look at how many of them are furries. At one point or another every group has its people who have the "persecution fetish" as you put it. And for some it may very well be. Hell I know people in the gay community who are like that....so.....*sighs* I believe there is at least one person in any group/community who is like that. Given the diverse amount of people I have met and know.....

 

[Robert Ewing]

They are an easy target.

The furry unofficial philosophy is beastiality is bad, unless it's been drawn, then it's cool. Which is reminiscent of the lolicon philosophy. Child porn is bad, unless it's been drawn, then it's cool.

Two very frowned upon subjects that are completely illegal, basically sugarcoated with a media that is most associated with children, fun, and creativity, i.e fan art.

It's basically very illegal, very laughable, frowned upon subjects in the form of a mass media that everybody loves. It's like tainting water from the cup of Christ with a steamy pile of Russian porn websites.

 

[Something Amyss]

The lost fans were not this bad, and I can't blame them too much. Lost had this big mystery set up through the entire series so it was understandable they'd be excited to see it.

My Little Pony does not have this excuse.

No, I agree, the Lost fans weren't this bad, but it did spill over into unreleated topics too often to just be about the mystery. there's "watercooler talk" and there's spamming those damn numbers everywhere.

 

[ntw3001]

On the internet? I'd have said the internet is the most adamantly pro-furry place (not a place) anyone could ever find. If furries think the internet hates them, said furries should go outside and find out what the fleshfolk think.

 

[ks1234]

This image [http://i44.tinypic.com/2cn8oxt.png] pretty much sums it all up. :/

And yes, it's safe to click. Just some text I couldn't be arsed to transcribe.

That text is only half-right. I'll get to that in a mo'.

Furries get hated because of there being not a single piece of media outlet that depicts the actual facts, instead they overexpose the sexual minority within the furry fandom, which by the way is NOT in any way, shape or form, exclusive to us. Other fandoms have sexual lunatics in them too.

If you actually took time out to do your research, you'd be shocked at how furries are no different than people who aren't furries. There are even furries that hate other furries for being furverts (read: shamelessly overexposed sluts). As a furry myself, I have and always will be condemning zoophilia/bestiality and anyone who says/thinks that said fetish is a "true fetish for any self-respecting furry", because it isn't. It's a fucking crime against Nature and I'm ashamed to know that I used to know a few furries who turned out to be closet zoophiles.

No, stop. Don't quote me and say that zoophilia = animal sex. "Zoophilia" refers to human-on-quadruped-animal sex, or animal-on-animal sex. None of the animals in question are biped or sentient. If they are actually sentient with human intelligence, they qualify as humanoids and are thus exempt from the fetish.

But this is the Internet, after all, where the stupids of the world are free to pitchfork-and-torch-mob anything Fox News tells them to. So get off your narrow-minded ignorant asses and actually LOOK into things before you judge.

"Furdom" or "Furry-ness" or "Fur-whatever-the-fuck" you call the actual fetish (not the person) is the ONE fetish that I only need looks alone to judge with extreme prejudice... there is absolutely zero way to make dressing up like a dog and barking while you're getting it from behind acceptable. (or whatever the hell it is furries do behind closed -or- open doors).
Ugh..

 

[dancinginfernal]

That image looks awfully similar to the arguments for/against homosexuality. Not saying anything either way (here); just take a good look at it.

Yeaaah, except that homosexuality isn't a fetish.

If it looks like a duck...

"But it isn't the same at all!" is not and has never been a good argument. One must show definitively WHY it is not the same, and I for one remain solidly unconvinced with regards to this particular debate.

I...I...

I'm not even certain how to begin responding to this you're so incorrect. I'll give it a shot anyways.

Implying that homosexuality is a fetish is implying that heterosexuality is a fetish. Neither are such, both are sexual preferences. You have a general attraction, and such things can govern your entire chemistry with another person. A man is still a man and a woman is still a woman, you just have a preferential attraction to one or the other which is determined straight from birth.

And you saying that he pulled the "It's not the same at all!" argument is bull. Like I just stated, homosexuality is a sexual orientation not a fetish. I haven't a clue why you called him out on such, but if you're willing to explain I'm willing to hear your side out.

 

[shrekfan246]

"Furry Fury"? OP, Y U No alliterate?

*Why y u no literate*

Alliterate:

Verb. To use or contain alliteration.

Alliteration:

The repetition of the same sounds or of the same kinds of sounds at the beginning of words or in stressed syllables, as in "on scrolls of silver snowy sentences" (Hart Crane). Modern alliteration is predominantly consonantal; certain literary traditions, such as Old English verse, also alliterate using vowel sounds.

Not to be a jerk or anything . . .

OT: I haven't seen any furry fury in a while, actually, since MLP became big and cool to hate on the internet. And now with Modern Warfare 3 out too, there's just so much for the internet denizens to hate and most furries keep to themselves now because, not unlike bronies, they've learned that as long as they stay quiet, all of the threads about them are started by either haters or people starting "Why all the hate?" threads.

 

[oZode]

Because they are just... bad. Bad in every respect imaginable to my mind. I see it as they must go somewhere to get help, they simply must.

Overly dramatic statements aside, I simply just don't like them and I will just leave it at that.

 

[Charvale]

I find this conversation interesting, considering I have an anthropomorphic white tiger as my avatar (a picture I actually drew), and as such I have been accused of being a "furry". Not like anyone's opinions really mattered to me, but oh well. I think I can shed some light on a lot of what people are talking about in their posts (and using quite a bit of vulgarity) in case anyone is actually interested.

Furries/Anthropomorphics and the like aren't "fetishes" so much as they are "fantasies". It would be like me getting my wife a sexy schoolgirl outfit or an equally sexy teachers outfit for a little bit of role playing. That's all it really is, yet people find it disgusting believing the people who like furries are into bestiality simply because they don't understand. It's a way to step out of the truth of your life, and step into a role you probably wouldn't normally do. Oh, wait, that sounds like most RPG's out there, or actors in a movie, or any number of things that people consider "acceptable".

It's no different than asking someone "Have you ever watched porn?", "Have you ever fantasized your girlfriend/boyfriend/significant other being someone else, just for something new?", or "Have you ever masturbated to images of hot models in skimpy attire, nude, or in sexual poses?" For anyone that says "No", you're lying, and hypocritical of others and their fantasies. Everyone has a right to their fantasies, their wants, and their desires without fear of persecution by others. If you find it objectionable that someone fantasizes having sex with Starfire from the DC Universe (or Edward from the "Twilight" series) in the privacy of their own home, then that's your right, but you shouldn't start belittling them just because you might find something objectionable about something they like.

For me personally, do I like anthropomorphic artwork? Yes. I love the works of such artists as Jay Naylor, Phillip Jackson, Chalosan, and Jessica Elwood, simply because their artwork is wonderful to look at, and many of the comic artists have wonderful plots to their story lines. But I also love DC comics, Marvel Comics, my wife's fairy/human artwork, and trying to learn how to draw noses more effectively (it's the reason why I draw mostly anthro characters). I love looking at paintings of scenery that I may never be able to see myself, I love architecture (especially Roman and Gothic). I'm artistic by nature and by love, I write stories, I take long walks enjoying nature, and have things other than just the small part of my life that anthropomorphic artwork takes up. Would I ever desire to wear a fursuit? Nope. I keep hearing that you sweat your butt off in one of those things and would hate it.

Does that make me a "Furry" just because I have a character who I identify with, like to write stories about, and enjoy finding new ways to draw him? Nope, but if you want to call me a Furry, go ahead because I consider it more of a compliment than an insult considering some of the greatest artists/actors/creators I can name would be in the exact same category.

 

[thiosk]

Because they are kind of like those into beastiaity, only without enough guts to follow through.

Are you saying that ALL furries are like that? It's very likely the minority, the extreme minority.

Wait, are you saying the majority have the guts to follow through, are you saying only the minority are kind of like those whom are into bestiality?

Personally, I'm not convinced that the furries are any weirder than the balloon people. But balloon fetishists don't have a huge internet presence.

 

[Assassin Xaero]

Because it is creepy and well, what the guy in the second post said (would rather not send another message to his inbox since a ton of people already did). Just like all those grow men going on about how awesome my little pony is. Sure, because some people on the internet said it was good, you go off and do the same thing, but that doesn't change the fact that you are GROWN MEN, and it is beyond creepy. I can't wait for this stupid fad to be over even when I know something even stupider will replace it.

Spoiler: Just because...