Why this character is not that awesome.

[PxDn Ninja]

Cthulhu

i was not aware Cthulhu was 'awesome' or 'bad ass'

A lot of people think he is. I think the idea is pretty cool, but he isn't an unstoppable beast like people believe he is.

>.> i see, i always saw it as a stupid looking squid monster thing, a mid boss at best basically, or a tougher normal enemy, ya know, the kinda thing you flatten an move on

That's the problem with illustrating Lovecraft's creatures. If you read about him, Cthulhu is an immortal alien god, whose existance is blasphemy against the laws of physics and whose very sight can shatter the human mind. You draw him and he's just a green squid-man-bat.

Can't think of my candidate for the "not that awesome" award. Satan maybe? If you ignore Milton's legacy and only look in the Bible, isn't the Devil basically God's lowest minion with the suckiest job?

Actually if you read the Bible, Lucifer was at the right hand of God and his most beautiful creation. He was one of his top creations, but when God created man and placed us above the angels, Lucifer stood defiant and was cast down.

 

[Lekonua]

Nathan Spencer is an arrogant douche...

It was a bit unsettling for me to read that. Not because I like the character or anything, but because I have the exact same first and last name.

 

[Hyper-space]

I know he looks cool and all, but am I wrong, or wasn't the whole point of Rorschach that he's an unstable sociopath and a right wing nut job? (In fact, his favourite magazine is basically FOX News on paper) So why do so many people love him?

Yep, Rorschach was never meant to be someone that people thought was cool, but rather a look at what kind of person would become a dangerous vigilante.

Wolverine. The only reason he's so badass is that the writers keep upping his actual powers to the point where if theres a fleck of skin left of him somewhere, he's coming back. He slashes shit and yeah he's a good fighter, but how much of a mary sue is he really? They jam him full of sharp, indestructible metal and then make it so he can't die even if he didn't have it?


Buuuuulllllshit.

Oh god this, Wolverine works much better when hes just being hilarious. Case in point:

Spoiler: Wolverine got brainwashed, thought he was a scaredy-cat, then this happened

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[spoiler=Wolverine + beer = Greatest thing evar][img src="http://chris.quietlife.net/images/wolverine2.jpg"][/spoiler]

 

[Faux Furry]

Wolverine. The only reason he's so badass is that the writers keep upping his actual powers to the point where if theres a fleck of skin left of him somewhere, he's coming back. He slashes shit and yeah he's a good fighter, but how much of a mary sue is he really? They jam him full of sharp, indestructible metal and then make it so he can't die even if he didn't have it?


Buuuuulllllshit.

No matter how badass they try and make Wolverine, nothing will detract from the fact that he was once saved by Jubilee. That is the immediate nullification of all awesome.

Also, there's something that has always puzzled me about Wolverine. It's in how he got his powers in the first movie.

His entire skeleton is coated with adamantium, but in order for that to actually work, doesn't that mean that the (supposedly) indestructible metal had to be melted into a liquid to be administered? Furthermore, in the movie, it was clearly seen through transparent plastic hoses, so wouldn't it be fair to say that it has a lower melting point than plastic?

In fact, considering that it wasn't glowing from all the IR and heat emitted from being heated to melting point, it must have a very low melting point. Metals with low melting points, like aluminum or tin do not glow when melted.

So that means it has a melting point that can be reached by conventional means, which means that it's not as indestructible as people make it out to be.

So, given this, wouldn't that mean that if you had a mutant with the ability to create vast amounts of heat, it would be possible to completely melt his claws and burn him to a crisp? Hell, a bit of human technology could do it, considering that normal human scientists were the ones who gave him the claws/skeleton in the first place.

Also, microwaves would be pretty lethal to someone who's skeleton is made out of metal, which reminds me, in the first film they put him into an MRI machine instead of an X-ray to check his health.

How the hell did they get such a clear image? Even the smallest pieces of metal, like screws, can distort an MRI. MRI machines fail if you have any kind of metal inside them, since they work using strong magnetic fields, so either the image is distorted or the metal is flung into the sides of the machine which can cause damage to it (which is ill-advised since MRI machines are expensive). And, if Magneto could bend his claws (which leads me to deduce that adamantium is magnetic), then how come the MRI didn't at least make his claws stick to the sides of the machine and ruin the interior?

I know I shouldn't be looking for logic in a movie based on a comic book, but if you're going to be setting these things in the real world and play them out as if they actually could happen, then it's reasonable that they adhere to some of the basic traits of reality.

I'm not particularly au fait with the comics to know why adamantium is indestructible, so I suppose there's a reason, but nobody has been able to give me one, yet. Maybe someone could help me out on this?

Right there in the comics, it is stated, in no uncertain terms, that characters such as Cyclops can disintegrate Adamantium [http://marvel.com/universe/Adamantium] with their energy emissions, well, in Age of Apocalypse [http://aoa.confusticated.com/], anyway.

I'm not going to say whether or not that affects how 'awesome' Wolverine is as a character or not, but there are definite limitations to that miracle metal his bones are coated with as well as bring up continuity issues in the movies.

 

[GiantRaven]

But I'm also not going to kid myself about Shepard as a character on his own terms.

I dunno, I always saw him as having a character. Granted the character I saw was a socially awkward idiot who somehow managed to bungle himself into being the saviour of the galaxy, not really understanding the emotions of others, unable to act as if he cared about anything.

 

[nukethetuna]

Crono. Utter badass, most powerful character in the game. Katana master with power over the heavens.

Aaaaaand he has no personality whatsoever. He's ok with a sword? He... doesn't mind jumping in a time portal to save a girl he just met? I... I guess he's ok with marrying said girl down the line? Not really sure how he feels about Lavos.
As far as I'm concerned, the dude is just incredibly susceptible to peer pressure. Oh and he mooches off his mom, who doesn't have a job PER SAY, so I'm pretty sure the need to support him, her, and his cat led her into some sort of shady business.

 

[Jamboxdotcom]

picsnip

I know he looks cool and all, but am I wrong, or wasn't the whole point of Rorschach that he's an unstable sociopath and a right wing nut job? (In fact, his favourite magazine is basically FOX News on paper) So why do so many people love him?

That was the point, yes. It just kind of got lost on everyone because he's so grimdark and edgy.
I think his popularity speaks loudly of how much most dudes are still basically thirteen year old boys, deep down.

I say this as someone who kind of also thinks he is a badass.

i liked Rorschach because he was an excellent character: flawed, human, yet still occasionally awesome. he was batshit insane, but he was still the closest to figuring out the truth before the end. and despite his right-wing bullshit, he was also the only one to disagree with Ozymandius in the end.

OT: have to agree about Boba Fett. i always thought he looked cool, and all, but he wasn't nearly the badass so many made him out to be. plus, like all other things Star Wars, the prequels ruined him utterly. Baby Boba Fett can suck it.

Actually if you read the Bible, Lucifer was at the right hand of God and his most beautiful creation. He was one of his top creations, but when God created man and placed us above the angels, Lucifer stood defiant and was cast down.

actually, if you actually read the Bible, it never says for sure who or what he was or did. he's never even given the name Lucifer in the Bible. it is fairly heavily implied that he was at least fairly important, but that's as specific as it gets. all the stuff about Lucifer was "introduced as canon" by John Milton, 1500+ years after the Bible was completed.

what Believer mentioned above about Isaiah 14:12 could refer to any angel, not necessarily a particularly important one. and while he undoubtedly rose to importance after he tricked Adam and Eve, that doesn't mean he was important before then.

 

[Mavinchious Maximus]

Ezio, the guy just pisses me off for some reason. if i had the chance i would punch him in the jaw.

 

[Mr Somewhere]

Batman. I just don't get it. I felt that Nicholas cage's character in Kick-Ass, even though it was a parody of sorts, was better. But I just find Batman dull and lacking the individuality of other superheroes.

Just out of curiosity, have you read any Batman comics? If you'd any of the classics, I'm certain you wouldn't be saying this. Batman has more character in him then most people realise.

 

[Stammer]

Chuck Norris. He is not cool. Why?

He is a fucking idiot. Seriously.

Also, he's definitely not the best fighter out there. Bruce Lee could beat him.

(skip to 2:14 for the fight)

 

[Reallink]

Batman. I just don't get it. I felt that Nicholas cage's character in Kick-Ass, even though it was a parody of sorts, was better. But I just find Batman dull and lacking the individuality of other superheroes.

Just out of curiosity, have you read any Batman comics? If you'd any of the classics, I'm certain you wouldn't be saying this. Batman has more character in him then most people realise.

I'll admit I haven't, and so my interpretation is based entirely on movies. That being said, Batman Begins/Dark Knight Batman does absolutely nothing for me

 

[Lunar Templar]

for me?
Super Man

In his defence there was a cartoon series back in the late 90's where he was actually well written. It made a big difference. he's so recognisable they have to keep him completely vanilla or risk offending Uncle Sam.

yeah, the cartoon in the 90s was good, as was Justice League (hell almost all the DC cartoons are good) doesn't really make my claim any less valid XD

 

[Mr Somewhere]

Batman. I just don't get it. I felt that Nicholas cage's character in Kick-Ass, even though it was a parody of sorts, was better. But I just find Batman dull and lacking the individuality of other superheroes.

Just out of curiosity, have you read any Batman comics? If you'd any of the classics, I'm certain you wouldn't be saying this. Batman has more character in him then most people realise.

I'll admit I haven't, and so my interpretation is based entirely on movies. That being said, Batman Begins/Dark Knight Batman does absolutely nothing for me

I'd give Long Halloween a look, if you were curious... just to give it another shot. Bale's Batman can be more hit or miss then people tend to admit.

 

[willofbob]

Deadpool.

He's pretty awesome, but every voice actor that has ever done him has had an annoying voice. I imagine him with sortof a cockney thing going.

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

That badass Skag I saw yesterday wasn't so badass.

Because my friends and I not only killed it, but all its runty offspring and his big brother Badass Burning Skag, AND his sister Badass Corrosive Skag!

......Yes, My friends and I freakin love borderlands.

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

Not really sure how he feels about Lavos.

I always saw him as an adventure loving slacker, actually. As in, when he sees the video and is asked if he wants to save the world, his response is "Got nothing better to do this week. ...Eh, why not? How hard could it be to stop an oversized porcupine?".

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

Lois Lane.

Yeah she maybe a spunky reporter and have her own mind and be strong for her man. Yeah Superman is a symbol of good an all but if someone like Lex was trying to kill my husband he would be dead before he could shine his stupid head. I'd take his cakes too.

 

[AMX58]

Batman what other hero does not have any superpowers not a one so he stands alone

also the Navy SEALS no need to explain that one

 

[Rutskarn]

Kira/Light Yagami

Spoiler: Why

He's fucking evil. And he begs for his life before he dies.

I understand that people like having a power-trip fantasy, but I've never understood why people think Light is in the right in any way. He's a murderer, plain and simple.

People think he's in the right because he only kills criminals; well at first. He lost my support when he started offing people associated with the investigation.

Spoiler

He really lost any chance of getting it back when he killed his own father to cover his tracks

I think you missed the point. You were supposed to identify with him at first. And later, to realize just how far he's fallen. He still claimed to want to make the world a better place, but he had become so arrogant and corrupt that he was willing to kill everyone around him. Power corrupts as they say.

You mention him killing his father (he didn't but he sure wasn't upset about it), but I was more shocked when he considered killing his little sister. So yeah, he wasn't a bad ass. He was just an ass.

Interestingly, I approached the show differently. I never *sympathized* with Light, per se. I never actually considered his cause just. But since this is a show and not real life, and since he's the viewpoint character, and since what he's doing is more interesting and smart and badass than the status quo, I got invested in his goal and wanted him to win. Obviously, in real life, I'd much prefer he fail--but in the show, I was in his corner.

 

[Crises^]

pyramid head grape:

Dango:
I believe you forgot the "is" in the title.

OT: Gordon Freeman. A silent protagonist who is far less easy to like than most other silent protagonists.

Ya gordon sucks LOLz
XD

OT: This dude
because I killed him in 3 seconds flat.

I am honestly a Sepheroth fan, but with that said all I had to do was cast Knights of The Round with X4 materia and somebody else with mimic materia. I sorta felt bad for him.

"I am a god now you think you can de*oof stop hitting me stop hitting me! It hurts!"

As you can see i don't know how to quote.

Anyway i was gonna say sephiroth because hes my fav bad guy but he never stops bitching about how much he misses jenova