Why war will never stop.

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Julianking93

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HerrBobo said:
As long as there are people there will be wars.
To (imperfectly) quote the sniper: As long as there are two people on this Earth, someone's gonna want someone dead.
More like, as long as there are living, breathing creatures, there will be war
 

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Julianking93 said:
War...has changed.

I would have to agree with Solid Snake...you always agree with Solid Snake...
Nah, I agree with Ron Pearlman. War never changes.

As long as humans have emotions then we will always have war. It's in our nature, and it's just something we will have to live with. Or not, if you're one of the casualties of war.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
Julianking93 said:
War...has changed.

I would have to agree with Solid Snake...you always agree with Solid Snake...
Nah, I agree with Ron Pearlman. War never changes.

As long as humans have emotions then we will always have war. It's in our nature, and it's just something we will have to live with. Or not, if you're one of the casualties of war.
Oh yeah, Its been a while since I played Fallout 3. Yeah, as long as humans are here, we will always have war, and it will always basically be the same. But the way its fought will be different and that it might become just a daily part of life.

Um....They're both right, how about that!
 

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"As long as there are two people left on the planet, someone is gonna want someone else dead"
-Team Fortress, Meet the Sniper
 

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A random person said:
HerrBobo said:
As long as there are people there will be wars.
To (imperfectly) quote the sniper: As long as there are two people on this Earth, someone's gonna want someone dead.
Damn it!
I was gonna say that!
 

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Danzaivar said:
In before "war, war never changes" peoples. War won't ever stop because we'll always want what someone else has, whoever that someone else might be. Plus you guys treat your military like we in the UK treat our NHS, some sacred cow that we must show off about, and what's the point of a military if you don't use it?

edit: crap, someone got in before me with the W,WNC rubbish
Too late the Fallout quote has already been used.
 

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Merteg said:
gbemery said:
Merteg said:
I'd say making them love us will be better than making them hate us.

If we kill them, that just makes new terrorists, and they hate us more.

If we try to give them support and talk with them, we may be able influence them.
"Well, if wishes were horses, then beggars would ride, but I generally don't put much stock into the idea that if we pretend very hard, fiction will become reality."
Care to elaborate? Are you saying that us using diplomacy with our enemies will never happen? Or that you don't think diplomacy will work?
Well you can talk about diplomacy all you want and how it would be better than war (and it would be) but sad to say we don't live in a world of happiness and love, where arguments are settled over a nice cup of tea and gum drops shower from the heavens. The fact is that most things that cause war have started in diplomatic channels and usually have been there for years, but you just never hear about them in the news because people rather hear about what other celebrity died today or why they missed Simon giving someone a standing ovation.

In places where war breaks out where diplomacy failed, it is usually because there's an underlying history of events that cause tension. Things you can't solve with diplomacy alone. If you think having a civil chat with a terrorist cell would be possible then by all means go for it but don't be surprised when they try to blow you up because they believe in the phrase 'actions speak louder than words' or 'kill the infidel'.

A few posted things along the lines of 'some people kill people because they just don't like each other' and that is true as well. Examples the events in Rwanda and places in the Middle East where one ethnic group hates another just because of what they believe and kill each other for it. Diplomacy wouldn't even work in some of those places because some of them would rather kill themselves then speak to the other. One can also argue how 'well' diplomacy is working with North Korea and Iran right now. You could also argue between whether or not it was diplomacy or economic collapse of the Soviet Union that ended the cold war. In the end though it wouldn't really matter what I said because you already made up your mind before you posted the thread. Your belief that diplomacy should always be used but isn't because there is more money in war, and that which you have stated is the 'only' thing for which our government does anything.
 

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gbemery said:
Merteg said:
gbemery said:
Merteg said:
I'd say making them love us will be better than making them hate us.

If we kill them, that just makes new terrorists, and they hate us more.

If we try to give them support and talk with them, we may be able influence them.
"Well, if wishes were horses, then beggars would ride, but I generally don't put much stock into the idea that if we pretend very hard, fiction will become reality."
Care to elaborate? Are you saying that us using diplomacy with our enemies will never happen? Or that you don't think diplomacy will work?
Well you can talk about diplomacy all you want and how it would be better than war (and it would be) but sad to say we don't live in a world of happiness and love, where arguments are settled over a nice cup of tea and gum drops shower from the heavens. The fact is that most things that cause war have started in diplomatic channels and usually have been there for years, but you just never hear about them in the news because people rather hear about what other celebrity died today or why they missed Simon giving someone a standing ovation.

In places where war breaks out where diplomacy failed, it is usually because there's an underlying history of events that cause tension. Things you can't solve with diplomacy alone. If you think having a civil chat with a terrorist cell would be possible then by all means go for it but don't be surprised when they try to blow you up because they believe in the phrase 'actions speak louder than words' or 'kill the infidel'.

A few posted things along the lines of 'some people kill people because they just don't like each other' and that is true as well. Examples the events in Rwanda and places in the Middle East where one ethnic group hates another just because of what they believe and kill each other for it. Diplomacy wouldn't even work in some of those places because some of them would rather kill themselves then speak to the other. One can also argue how 'well' diplomacy is working with North Korea and Iran right now. You could also argue between whether or not it was diplomacy or economic collapse of the Soviet Union that ended the cold war. In the end though it wouldn't really matter what I said because you already made up your mind before you posted the thread. Your belief that diplomacy should always be used but isn't because there is more money in war, and that which you have stated is the 'only' thing for which our government does anything.
But armed conflict shouldn't be a first resort, but it seems that's what we've turned to!

Sure, some people can't be reasoned with. However, I'm sure there are many who CAN be reasoned with. We have to at least try. As I have said many times on this thread, we kill one terrorist who we may have been able to sway with diplomacy, and his entire family hates America and will probably hate America for generations.
 

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Merteg said:
The reason war will never be stopped, is because there is too much money in war. The people who tell our leaders, America's that is, what to do, make money in war.

So, in America, we will always want war.
No anti america crap... war has always been part of countries
 

Merteg

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Cortheya said:
Merteg said:
The reason war will never be stopped, is because there is too much money in war. The people who tell our leaders, America's that is, what to do, make money in war.

So, in America, we will always want war.
No anti america crap... war has always been part of countries
Anti-American? Crap?

I want America to be better than it is. I love America, I live in America.

I believe you will find that what I said is not crap.
 

gbemery

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Merteg said:
gbemery said:
Merteg said:
gbemery said:
Merteg said:
I'd say making them love us will be better than making them hate us.

If we kill them, that just makes new terrorists, and they hate us more.

If we try to give them support and talk with them, we may be able influence them.
"Well, if wishes were horses, then beggars would ride, but I generally don't put much stock into the idea that if we pretend very hard, fiction will become reality."
Care to elaborate? Are you saying that us using diplomacy with our enemies will never happen? Or that you don't think diplomacy will work?
Well you can talk about diplomacy all you want and how it would be better than war (and it would be) but sad to say we don't live in a world of happiness and love, where arguments are settled over a nice cup of tea and gum drops shower from the heavens. The fact is that most things that cause war have started in diplomatic channels and usually have been there for years, but you just never hear about them in the news because people rather hear about what other celebrity died today or why they missed Simon giving someone a standing ovation.

In places where war breaks out where diplomacy failed, it is usually because there's an underlying history of events that cause tension. Things you can't solve with diplomacy alone. If you think having a civil chat with a terrorist cell would be possible then by all means go for it but don't be surprised when they try to blow you up because they believe in the phrase 'actions speak louder than words' or 'kill the infidel'.

A few posted things along the lines of 'some people kill people because they just don't like each other' and that is true as well. Examples the events in Rwanda and places in the Middle East where one ethnic group hates another just because of what they believe and kill each other for it. Diplomacy wouldn't even work in some of those places because some of them would rather kill themselves then speak to the other. One can also argue how 'well' diplomacy is working with North Korea and Iran right now. You could also argue between whether or not it was diplomacy or economic collapse of the Soviet Union that ended the cold war. In the end though it wouldn't really matter what I said because you already made up your mind before you posted the thread. Your belief that diplomacy should always be used but isn't because there is more money in war, and that which you have stated is the 'only' thing for which our government does anything.
But armed conflict shouldn't be a first resort, but it seems that's what we've turned to!

Sure, some people can't be reasoned with. However, I'm sure there are many who CAN be reasoned with. We have to at least try. As I have said many times on this thread, we kill one terrorist who we may have been able to sway with diplomacy, and his entire family hates America and will probably hate America for generations.
yes there are those who can be and that is why the whole world isn't at war with everyone else right now. And which people are you talking about that we attacked first, that we could have reasoned with but we never tried?

but to end I reiterate, "In the end though it wouldn't really matter what I said because you already made up your mind before you posted the thread. Your belief that diplomacy should always be used but isn't because there is more money in war, and that which you have stated is the 'only' thing for which our government does anything."
 

Merteg

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gbemery said:
Merteg said:
gbemery said:
Merteg said:
gbemery said:
Merteg said:
I'd say making them love us will be better than making them hate us.

If we kill them, that just makes new terrorists, and they hate us more.

If we try to give them support and talk with them, we may be able influence them.
"Well, if wishes were horses, then beggars would ride, but I generally don't put much stock into the idea that if we pretend very hard, fiction will become reality."
Care to elaborate? Are you saying that us using diplomacy with our enemies will never happen? Or that you don't think diplomacy will work?
Well you can talk about diplomacy all you want and how it would be better than war (and it would be) but sad to say we don't live in a world of happiness and love, where arguments are settled over a nice cup of tea and gum drops shower from the heavens. The fact is that most things that cause war have started in diplomatic channels and usually have been there for years, but you just never hear about them in the news because people rather hear about what other celebrity died today or why they missed Simon giving someone a standing ovation.

In places where war breaks out where diplomacy failed, it is usually because there's an underlying history of events that cause tension. Things you can't solve with diplomacy alone. If you think having a civil chat with a terrorist cell would be possible then by all means go for it but don't be surprised when they try to blow you up because they believe in the phrase 'actions speak louder than words' or 'kill the infidel'.

A few posted things along the lines of 'some people kill people because they just don't like each other' and that is true as well. Examples the events in Rwanda and places in the Middle East where one ethnic group hates another just because of what they believe and kill each other for it. Diplomacy wouldn't even work in some of those places because some of them would rather kill themselves then speak to the other. One can also argue how 'well' diplomacy is working with North Korea and Iran right now. You could also argue between whether or not it was diplomacy or economic collapse of the Soviet Union that ended the cold war. In the end though it wouldn't really matter what I said because you already made up your mind before you posted the thread. Your belief that diplomacy should always be used but isn't because there is more money in war, and that which you have stated is the 'only' thing for which our government does anything.
But armed conflict shouldn't be a first resort, but it seems that's what we've turned to!

Sure, some people can't be reasoned with. However, I'm sure there are many who CAN be reasoned with. We have to at least try. As I have said many times on this thread, we kill one terrorist who we may have been able to sway with diplomacy, and his entire family hates America and will probably hate America for generations.
yes there are those who can be and that is why the whole world isn't at war with everyone else right now. And which people are you talking about that we attacked first, that we could have reasoned with but we never tried?

but to end I reiterate, "In the end though it wouldn't really matter what I said because you already made up your mind before you posted the thread. Your belief that diplomacy should always be used but isn't because there is more money in war, and that which you have stated is the 'only' thing for which our government does anything."
Yes, the people we attacked first could have been our friends.

You disagree with me? Prove to me that violence is better than diplomacy. If you disagree with me, let me see your opposing arguments.
 

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The reason War will never stop is because of two reasons.
A) It culls out the population, and despite what you may think, the government wants this.
and B) War is great for the economy, it genereates business like you wouldn't believe, and everybody partaking in it, (apart from the cannon-fodder, AKA soldiers) gets alot richer.