why was crystal skull sooo bad?

The_Echo

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I thoroughly enjoyed this one. The only Indy film I had seen prior was Raiders of the Lost Ark, and only part of it, as I fell asleep at some point.
 

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a). It was an unnecessary sequel.

b). That fuckin' fridge

c). Most importantly, NO JOHN RHYS-DAVIES!
 

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Xbowhyena said:
So many people are bashing movies for petty things these days. Who cares if you couldn't really survive a nuke in a fridge... who cares Shia LaBouf is a bad actor (it's not an award winning movie lol) who cares that the ending sucked... It was a GOOD movie overall. Different doesn't mean crappy.
Thank you. To be honest I liked everything about the movie.
 

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Travdelosmuertos said:
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Nmil-ek said:
[http://img40.imageshack.us/i/nukethefridge.jpg/]

Enough said.
I didn't hate the movie, but this.

SO MUCH THIS!

THIS TIMES 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000!

Lead cannot stop the heat of the sun caused by a nuke! >.<

Plus the impact would shatter every bone in his body. Both impacts actually, the one that sent him flying, and the sudden stop when he landed.
Exactly. How can I possibly worry for his life during a fucking fistfight with a commie when he's a goddamn superhero able to withstand not only an extremely fatal physical blow, but is not cooked in the fridge (lead absorbs radiation, which causes heat to be produced) and then stands nonchalantly in the face of an H-Bomb without melting. It killed every other action scene in the entire movie.

Then, there was the departure from mysticism to sci-fi, which someone already mentioned.
Well, the laser WAS a little farfetched, but it wasnt something you see every day. Who really sees the Ark every day of their lives?

Now a nuke, or even just a LOT of explosives, people see or hear about those a lot, and people know that you cannot survive an atomic explosion by hiding in a lead lined frig.

So this bit of fantasy hits too close to home with most people, hence the hate.
 
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Amethyst Wind said:
People don't like it because they paid to see an entertaining action movie, not a 90-minute scientology lecture. I'm sure there are rules against forcing extreme(ly stupid) religion upon people.
...Really? Aliens+commies=Scientology?
 

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PurpleRain said:
Charisma said:
Extradimensional aliens = science fiction.
Why are people uspset by this? Really? Indy has always been about the old boys comics where they go exploring into tombs and fight the mummy and ze Nazi's. In those comics, aliens were a common thing. Plus, with the addition of the amount of 'alien hiroglyths' and theories and whatnot, it was to be expected. I thought it was great.
actually to add to it a bit, the WHOLE series was a sci-fi series, just an old school version of it really
 

Donbett1974

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Take a movie in an Adventure franchise turn it into an Sci-fi movie because we all know that will end well. Can't wait for Star Wars 7: The Great Depression.
 

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You're willing to take the ark killing nazis as truth but not him surviving a nuclear blast? tsk tsk.

IT WAS A MAGICAL FUCKING FRIDGE! GET OVER IT!

lol.
The Ark was a intricate part of a story that built it up to be an all-powerful object that could easily destroy men. It wasn't just the appearance and opening of the Ark itself that made what it did believable, but the fact that the story was executed well enough for the audience to believe it within the movie's context. Of course anyone with half a brain realizes the Ark doing that would be complete balderdash in real life, but within the story arc, we are able to believe because it is well-established before hand through plot that it can mess people's shit up.

The fridge, on the other hand, was merely a gimmick meant for amusement. The quick flash of the word 'lead' would not leave most people to be able to remain immersed in the progression of the event long enough not to question just how Indy managed to climb out of it without at least getting his balls charred. Anyone with a basic, 5th grade knowledge in WWII history would be able to tell you that people don't just walk away from an atom bomb, lead casing or no. People's beef is not he survived, more that Lucas and Spielberg took the time to assume that the audience would be too dumb to realize that the scene basically pissed on basic scientific knowledge and hoped the fact that it was slightly amusing (at best) would make up for it.
 

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Different doesn't mean crappy.
Say you like cheesecake but hate chocolate.

Now say that someone gives you three slices of delicious cheesecake, then tells you a fourth slice of cheesecake is on its way, only once it arrives it turns out to be double fudge chocolate with chocolate sprinkles.

Why do you hate it? Different doesn't mean crappy. People are just afraid of change, I guess.
 

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It wasn't a bad movie and it was probably more realistic than the others. I think aliens are slightly more plausible than the Ark burning Nazis or Indy walking along an invisible bridge. OK, the fridge and the CGI monkeys ruined it a bit but come on it wasn't actually that bad.
 
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Zombie_Fish said:
AdmiralWolverineLightningbolt said:
everyone seems to hate the film so much but if you watch the originals, you see they're pretty similar
That is why it is hated. They haven't changed the films a bit, which isn't a bad thing, but the audience have changed with it. It's like Yahtzee said in his joke Duke Nuk'em Forever review, that Duke's persona wouldn't work in a much more serious society like the one we live in now.

One of the main reasons why it was so popular with the critics was that it kept to the classic Indie traits, and that this was what they expected from the movie. But after 20 years, an audience has changed in tastes, so when they saw that the film hadn't changed, they criticized it a lot more seriously than they would've the other three films. So it got more hate as a result.
but if theyd gone and changed it, fans would complain that it didnt stay true to the originals but face it - if it had come out 20 years ago, people would have loved it
a good film like indianna jones is always a good film, to think that we should judge films to a different standard now is ridiculous
 

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Nmil-ek said:
[http://img40.imageshack.us/i/nukethefridge.jpg/]

Enough said.
Yep, that pretty much killed any chance I had of taking the movie seriously. A lead lined fridge does not mean indestructable. After that I spent most of the movie trying to poke holes in it. You can't really bring out that kind of BS in the opening scenes, atleast try and hold on to believability for a little bit.
 

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The fridge thing never really bothered me.....

granted ( as I don't remember exactly) that the bomb was not dropped directly onto the mock neighborhood but rather alittle away from it as most of the real tests were done.

IF the neighborhood WAS ground zero, then yeah they over did it...


one is those fridges are made of almost pure lead and cast iron, and during those exact tests in New Mexico and such where they used a mock town " which were not at ground zero, but in a shockwave, fall out zone" the fridges were very often the only things left intact ( besides other solid things like metal frames, and concrete structures.. and lead does repel radiation..

However.. the " flying fridge" was over the top....most they ever did in the mock tests was fall over....which then indy would be trapped and most likely suffocated before research teams looked over the damage assessment.


I guess with me I see Indy as what it was meant to be, which is more like the serials from the early days of TV, which they stayed pretty true to how those normally went....and when I look back at the first indy, I can't help but think how super cheesy the melting face was.
 

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Let's summarise:

INDIANA JONES SURVIVES A NUKE IN A FRIDGE AND THEN BATTLES ALIENS WHILST HIS SON IS REPEATADLY HIT IN THE NUTS.

Thank you, good day.
 

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Maybe I just lost all of my childhood innocence and my sense of wonder, but it didn't give me the same feeling of adventure as the first three. I thought it was completely forgettable, actually. The only thing I remembered was how stupid the fridge scene was. And how glad I was that it was a double feature with Iron Man showing after.
 

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cleverlymadeup said:
CaptainCrunch said:
Filmmaker Rant:
The action-packed roller coaster thrill ride lacked something very essential to the adventure film: a moral. We get one at the very end, but from scene to scene it's mostly a wank-fest of imposed family values on people who haven't seen each other in years. Random chance is one thing, and adventure movies thrive on blind luck, but it's a series of scenes that are forced to fit together only by the will of the director (who has a history of doing just that.)
really so the being honest part of it was totally missed out on you? notice what happened to Mac being the dishonest person through out the whole movie and also what happens to Irina at the very end as well

the wedding was after that lesson
For a family of people who lie, cheat, and steal (albeit in a considerably "good" way) in the name of procuring precious artifacts so that Nazis and Communists don't get them, I think having a moral like "honesty" is both hypocritical and pointless. And if it really took an entire movie to convey the moral of "be honest," that's just as great a fail as using aliens as a cop-out for Tomb Raider taking the last vestiges of plot from the people who make these monstrosities.