Why We Need A War - 5th Generation Fighters

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DannyZilla

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In the words of Ben "Yhatzee" Crowshaw, can someone please just start a war with America? Russia or China would be good, hell, i'd even say the U.K. could give them a run for their money...
 

RA92

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martin said:
Economics trumps all.

Killing each other is bad business.
Pirate Kitty said:
Mhm.

Peace = $$$

This much is true.
Funny. The defence contractors seem to disagree with you.


Not necessarily my view of how the world should be, but how the world is. Though yes, a USA vs China vs Russia war is impossible - which I already mentioned (rather wearily) in my last post.
 

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Raiyan 1.0 said:
martin said:
Economics trumps all.

Killing each other is bad business.
Pirate Kitty said:
Mhm.

Peace = $$$

This much is true.
Funny. The defence contractors seem to disagree with you.


Not necessarily my view of how the world should be, but how the world is. Though yes, a USA vs China vs Russia war is impossible - which I already mentioned (rather wearily) in my last post.
Yes but the Governments are perfectly content to simply have the powerful military without ever having to fully use it.

Rich nations don't fight rich nations any more.

You have a rich nation who tries to fight a poor nation in order to gain control of resources the poor nation can't fully exploit.
 

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LittleChone said:
Lightnr said:
None of them - in nuclear fallout everyone is a looser. Something that ensures we *hopefully* will never see wars like WW1 and WW2 again.
Actually, hydrogen bomb bets nuclear.

By approximately 10/1
The hydrogen bomb is Nuclear.

Nuclear means of the nucleus, it means that instead of an exchange of electrons, the Nuclei of atoms are actually combined or split apart forming different elements.


For Fission (Atomic bomb), the atoms are split,

For Fusion (The Hydrogen bomb), the atoms are combined.

Both release immense amounts of energy and will seriously ruin your day.
 

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martin said:
Raiyan 1.0 said:
Yes but the Governments are perfectly content to simply have the powerful military without ever having to fully use it.

Rich nations don't fight rich nations any more.

You have a rich nation who tries to fight a poor nation in order to gain control of resources the poor nation can't fully exploit.
Which I already mentioned when I said a USA vs China vs Russia war is impossible considering current economic conditions. Look - this was never a political discussion (I intentionally didn't put it in Religion and Politics), but rather a discussion on the performance of these aircrafts. You missed a major point:

Raiyan 1.0 said:
I ask you: hypothetically, if all these projects are completed without a hitch, which region d'ya think will end up having the upper hand in ariel combat?
 

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Raiyan 1.0 said:
martin said:
Raiyan 1.0 said:
Yes but the Governments are perfectly content to simply have the powerful military without ever having to fully use it.

Rich nations don't fight rich nations any more.

You have a rich nation who tries to fight a poor nation in order to gain control of resources the poor nation can't fully exploit.
Which I already mentioned when I said a USA vs China vs Russia war is impossible considering current economic conditions. Look - this was never a political discussion (I intentionally didn't put it in Religion and Politics), but rather a discussion on the performance of these aircrafts. You missed a major point:

Raiyan 1.0 said:
I ask you: hypothetically, if all these projects are completed without a hitch, which region d'ya think will end up having the upper hand in ariel combat?
martin said:
But, I think it is a bit silly to speculate on the performance of any of these aircraft against another one unless someone is an aerospace engineer, or technician with intimate knowledge of them all.
 

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martin said:
But, I think it is a bit silly to speculate on the performance of any of these aircraft against another one unless someone is an aerospace engineer, or technician with intimate knowledge of them all.


Believe it or not, there are aficionados out there who've enough knowledge to speculate. Personally, I've read a lot of first-hand accounts of pilots, defense advisors and war games on these aircrafts, and speculation comes in where there are conflicting information. The stats are all out there. Anyway, I was just seeing if there are people with similar interests in the Escapist - didn't expect to be dragged into political discussions or accusations of being politically incorrect. And I really don't care what you think is silly, and will ignore any of your posts that is off-topic.
 

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Raiyan 1.0 said:
martin said:
But, I think it is a bit silly to speculate on the performance of any of these aircraft against another one unless someone is an aerospace engineer, or technician with intimate knowledge of them all.


Believe it or not, there are aficionados out there who've enough knowledge to speculate. Personally, I've read a lot of first-hand accounts of pilots, defense advisors and war games on these aircrafts, and speculation comes in where there are conflicting information. The stats are all out there. Anyway, I was just seeing if there are people with similar interests in the Escapist - didn't expect to be dragged into political discussions or accusations of being politically incorrect. And I really don't care what you think is silly, and will ignore any of your posts that is off-topic.
Right-o. Noted.