Wiccans and you.
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I made it pretty clear on my view on Wiccan from that post.
Yes I think it's a load of baloney trying to perform real "magic" in real life but hey if it's their spendings and belief so I ain't exactly going to troll them about it (I keep it to myself).
Yes I think it's a load of baloney trying to perform real "magic" in real life but hey if it's their spendings and belief so I ain't exactly going to troll them about it (I keep it to myself).
I used to consider myself a Wiccan. Not anymore. There wasn't anything wrong with it, but again, its still just a religious system. I don't consider myself part of any religion now. I'm actually surprised to see that same theme coming up a lot in this thread, good on you people!
From what I've heard, the reason some christians wear the cross upside down is because they consider it more humble. Apparently, St. Peter (I think it was) asked to be crucified upside down because he felt he didn't deserve to die in the same way as Jesus.Moonlight Butterfly said:
I could be wrong though. After all, I'm pretty sure I got this info from a cracked article.
See, this a problem. Wiccan =/= Goth, and a lot of people who are into Goth culture are not into Wiccan culture and vice versa. You're kind of crossing your stereotypes here, which is gonna lead to confusion.Doclector said:
When I think of "bloody annoying" Wiccans, I think of people dressing like they're off to a Medieval Fair, with tarot cards at the ready, who say things like "oh my stars!". I can't find a clip of it, but there was a character on an episode of Charmed, the Friday the 13th episode, that hits the nail on the head.
No, that's accurate. I remember that from my childhood as a Catholic. Hmm... getting a little morbid here, but I wonder about the medical science behind being crucified upside down. I know crucifixion kills by making the lungs collapse, but I wonder if having the blood rush to your head from being upside down makes you pass out sooner or anything.Jonluw said:
This. People are just people.II2 said:
No, just kidding.
In my experience they're like any group of quirky subculture types, some are cool, lovely people and some are giggling gitboxes and some are self righteous assholes eager to tell you how wrong you are and some you wouldn't know for their interests or beliefs unless you asked.
As for the view itself, anyone that claims at all to have any real definite knowledge on how this universe was formed/where we came from/what happens to us when die is either lying or hasn't come to the realization that all those questions are in fact unknowable.
That goes for you Atheists too.
Wiccanism is a specific religion - it is not part of neo-paganism (aka 'paganism' since the official name sounds stupid).Phasmal said:
There are some shared beliefs, but there is also plenty that is different.
And while I realize you probably already know this, Phasmal, I figured I'd reply to you anyway for those who don't.
And yes, for the record, I also read Tarot cards. If I were so inclined, I could sell Tarot readings on E-bay (at least until it was banned - bastards).
So yeah, not everything like that is Wiccan, OP.
Present-day druidism is just as recent as Wicca (well, actually a bit less recent, but still created in the same 'take-some-scraps-of-info-and-create-a-religion-around-it' way), since we know next to nothing about actual ancient druidism, and most of what we know comes from the Romans who might not have been entirely objective with their descriptions, considering they were busy conquering said druids.Moonlight Butterfly said:
I tend to look down on wiccans more than I do other religious types (or at the least, just as much).
Don't get me wrong, I think all belief in a religious or spiritual world of whatever sort is ridiculous and that such ideas are nonsense, but at least when it comes to the christians and such, it can be more of a passive thing where at most, they expect god to be guiding their lives behind the scenes or something, not directly giving them shit wishmaster style. And since no direct interaction is required, the belief can persist based on nothing.
For Wiccans however, my only experience with one has informed me that magical spells and potions are treated as real things, and unless I was misinformed, that's beyond laughable. Not only is it just as silly as the belief in say, heaven, but it's not passive. It's not simply sitting back and accepting that something will happen that can't be proven nor disproven while you still live, I can't even begin to understand the level of self-delusion required for someone to "cast a spell" and actually believe they accomplished something.
Edit: On second that, I suppose other religious types can be just as bad. As someone above pointed out, believing in magic isn't much different than praying. Casting a spell is rather similar to praying, and in either case actually expecting something to happen as a result is insane.
Edit Edit: Correction, expecting something to happen is just stupid, deluding yourself into believing that something did indeed happen is the insane part.
Don't get me wrong, I think all belief in a religious or spiritual world of whatever sort is ridiculous and that such ideas are nonsense, but at least when it comes to the christians and such, it can be more of a passive thing where at most, they expect god to be guiding their lives behind the scenes or something, not directly giving them shit wishmaster style. And since no direct interaction is required, the belief can persist based on nothing.
For Wiccans however, my only experience with one has informed me that magical spells and potions are treated as real things, and unless I was misinformed, that's beyond laughable. Not only is it just as silly as the belief in say, heaven, but it's not passive. It's not simply sitting back and accepting that something will happen that can't be proven nor disproven while you still live, I can't even begin to understand the level of self-delusion required for someone to "cast a spell" and actually believe they accomplished something.
Edit: On second that, I suppose other religious types can be just as bad. As someone above pointed out, believing in magic isn't much different than praying. Casting a spell is rather similar to praying, and in either case actually expecting something to happen as a result is insane.
Edit Edit: Correction, expecting something to happen is just stupid, deluding yourself into believing that something did indeed happen is the insane part.
I haven't had any real experience of Wicca. The only 'Wiccans' I have known were a group in college that used it as an excuse to fuck constantly in public parks.
Personally I view Wicca and other modern religeons as slightly lower than older religeons, simply because we can go back to an exact year and say, "[name] made it up right here".
Personally I view Wicca and other modern religeons as slightly lower than older religeons, simply because we can go back to an exact year and say, "[name] made it up right here".
My knowledge of Wiccans comes entirely from Buffy: The Vampire Slayer. Notably, they have a lot of bake sales, are Greenpeace's annoying younger sibling and annoy witches.
I once went out with someone who was a Wiccan.
She was all kinds of strange, what with her stones, weird books, incense candles, and all that shit.
She had bloody huge breasts though, so she was great in the sack. What can i say, I think her magical wiccan sex powers worked.
She was all kinds of strange, what with her stones, weird books, incense candles, and all that shit.
She had bloody huge breasts though, so she was great in the sack. What can i say, I think her magical wiccan sex powers worked.
