Not my point. The whole legal/illegal or he did good/he did bad question is just a red herring to distract you from the real point: the US government has a profound hatred of democracy. Unfortunately, the red herring is all we ever get to focus on (thank you mass media). For historical reference, take a look at the coups in Chile under Allende or Iran under Mossadegh, or even just what happened to the democratically elected Hamas and Aristide governments.Eclectic Dreck said:
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All governments have a profound hatred of democracy. I'm not surprised you noticed. Undermining the democracy in another nation, however, does not demonstrate this fundamental truth. Rather it is the willingness to do so in one's own nation that best demonstrates this key fact. When doing so in another nation it is not done because one "hate's democracy" but rather because it serves the selfish national interest. This demonstrates a fundamental flaw in the human character that can be seen throughout history: that people classified in that strange and terrible group "other people" are less people than people shaped obstacles that get in the way of our grand works.dcrane said:
Hating democracy is directly related to this but when that category of other suddenly includes your own countrymen, that is when I'm all the more disturbed.
Its pathetic that his own goverment frames him and accused him of rape.
It is so obvious that it is false I dont know anyone who actually believed he raped those girls its just a pathetic attempt to get him in jail.
Same as the guys of Piratebay he isnt doing anything wrong. He just owns the site the people who put those documents on the site are doing something wrong and illegal but not him.
It is so obvious that it is false I dont know anyone who actually believed he raped those girls its just a pathetic attempt to get him in jail.
Same as the guys of Piratebay he isnt doing anything wrong. He just owns the site the people who put those documents on the site are doing something wrong and illegal but not him.
I don't know why people are saying it's helping to destroy international relationships...
It's exposing how countries have been destroying their own relationships with other nations.
It's already been mentioned, but I seriously recommend visiting it: http://sowhyiswikileaksagoodthingagain.com/
It's exposing how countries have been destroying their own relationships with other nations.
Each line is being reviewed before a cable is released, so the names of all innocent parties will be removed, ensuring their security and the security of their families.Poptart Invasion said:
You mean falsely charge a man with rape, which will put a massive smear on his reputation just so that the dealings between governments can go on without being noticed?
It's already been mentioned, but I seriously recommend visiting it: http://sowhyiswikileaksagoodthingagain.com/
The first? How often do you go here, because I've seen three today.JoJo Bizzaro 7 said:
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I think it's all overrated. I don't see why we need to have these documents online wich might be a potential danger in more ways then just terrorism (something people love throwing around these days).
Besides. Do we really have to know that Ambassador A called Ambassador C a silly name? Or that the port of Rotterdam is imporant for the USA? I mean.. It IS the biggest port in the world so it's logical that it is important for the USA. (and probably the rest of the world that trades with Rotterdam. Not everything is about the USA.)
Plus, if someone would put a document on Wikileaks wich is completely false, everyone would take it for real. Since denying it is no option, because the government always lies, since wikileaks always tells the truth and never lies. [/sarcasm]
if you havn't noticed, I find it rather annoying and mostly unnecesary. But that's my opinion.
Besides. Do we really have to know that Ambassador A called Ambassador C a silly name? Or that the port of Rotterdam is imporant for the USA? I mean.. It IS the biggest port in the world so it's logical that it is important for the USA. (and probably the rest of the world that trades with Rotterdam. Not everything is about the USA.)
Plus, if someone would put a document on Wikileaks wich is completely false, everyone would take it for real. Since denying it is no option, because the government always lies, since wikileaks always tells the truth and never lies. [/sarcasm]
if you havn't noticed, I find it rather annoying and mostly unnecesary. But that's my opinion.
I'm all for free speech, but things have gone too far with Wikileaks. While the intentions were good in some cases, like exposing some rather deplorable spending habits in the banks, for the most part it did something completely inexcusable in further endangering lives.