Will console graphics ever beat PC graphics?

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Jodah

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The day it is released a console is outdated compared to a top of the line PC so no...not going to happen.
 

Merkavar

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i think a better question would be. will people ever stop worrying about graphics and start worrying more about gameplay and fun.

crysis looks great, i might even play it again now that i have a dx10 pc or what ever but its gameplay just seemed generic fps. enemies up ahead, you shot them, move on, dead bodies behind you now. you could normally attack from multiple angles etc but that didnt seem to change much.

i want a game like crysis but one that has some strategy to it. like maybe supply lines that if you blow up a bridge before you attack a base they wont get re inforcements from the other base down the road.
 

Sexbad

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Even if you make a console with the fanciest equipment ever installed, within a matter of months you will have a newer graphics card that works on PCs but not on a console because it's a fucking console and it can't be upgraded.
 

emeraldrafael

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They havent already? Or atleast equaled them? Cause the PS3 and 360 are doing some amazing things.

But, even if they arent, i wouldnt care. I've heard about the "is so real looking" games on the PC and how your PC freezes/crashes/slows/can't keep up/etc. I'd rather play the game then have it look pretty. Otherwise, I just bought a $50+ non interactive picture that makes my PC act dumb.
 

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This is a ridiculous argument. The argument that a PC must be more powerful than a console because it's used to design games is also ridiculous. A console is a computer that uses the same technology you have in your PC. The difference is that it's configured for a specific purpose where a PC is designed as a multimedia platform.

That said, no, consoles will never match PC's on graphics. The one deciding factor is cost. Consoles are mass produced/marketed, they have to be in a price range the general public is willing to pay. PC's on the other hand are up to the purchaser. Have 10 grand to blow on a gaming machine, you can.
 

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6unn3r said:
Personaly ive always been a pc gamer so i am a bit biased on this issue, however i think it's worth a look. Bellow is a screenshot from Crysis on the PC. Can consoles ever hope to match up to graphics like this? Given that it takes a pc to program and build a console game will there always be some measure of downgrading to make any given game work on a console? Or since the constant upgrading and updating of pc's is neverending will it take a console sent back in time to beat pc's on graphics and looks alone?

Ideas?
Short answer: No, PCs will always be superior.

Long answer: PCs will always be superior because consoles are PCs you can't upgrade. They are released with tech that's usually 6-12 months old in order to be affordable, which means they're already "out of date" when they come to market. It's not very difficult to find a PC with superior hardware on the launch day of a new console. And the hardware determines the graphical difference between versions of the same game.
 

Sabiancym

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Not possible...it's sad that someone even asked the question.

Consoles are pcs.



It's like asking if a ford focus will ever be faster than a car. It is a car.
 

Jamous

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Everything I would say has already been said... Consoles can't be constantly upgraded while PCs can... It's like the story of Achilles and the Tortoise but it works!
 

duchaked

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console graphics have always beat pc graphics for me (lol I worded it that way on purpose)
for me...lol BUT I know pc is where you can actually customize it if you choose so, but the thing is I don't throw money into upgrading my computer to run ridiculous top notch stuff (well I could, but then I'd have no money to buy games -sadface- ugh)

so a pc only has the power if the user is willing to spend into it

I kinda like the whole co-op couch play buddy system tho...
but it's whatever floats your boat, you know?
 

DP155ToneZone

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When a console is released, its hardware stays static for several years (usually 7 or so).

When a piece of PC hardware is released it stays, at most, for six months at the top but then is pounded into obsolescence by desperate competition.

The constant progress that PC hardware makes is astounding: it's one of the several reasons games are best played on PC.
 

teh_spartan

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they can be on par for litteraly a month. but litteraly every month a new part comes out and within a year standard gaming computers will be better in every way
 

Andy of Comix Inc

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mariofan1000 said:
Maybe, if PC developer's stopped assuming everyone owned a super computer.
All the best PC games of the past decade have been scalable, from the highest end of the spectrum, to the lowest end. Steam takes user hardware surveys every month to evaluate which technology is being phased in and out, how multi-CPU adoption trends are going, and most importantly, to find a middle-ground. They share this information with the public and their associates and they create their new games based on these stats.

Save for a few poor examples like Crysis and the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series, pretty much every PC exclusive title has been workable on any below-average machine. Hell, even Mac is being accounted for. Scalability has long been one of PC gaming's biggest drawcards, and I don't think we're ever going to see that change.
 

Andy of Comix Inc

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JeanLuc761 said:
Archangel357 said:
They love doing that, don't they.

But the whole question is silly - an XBox 360 is $150, which means that some RAM and a couple of coolers for a gaming PC will set you back more than that. A seriously powerful rig now costs as much as a PS3, a 3D LED HDTV, and a bunch of games put together. Yeah, with $2,500, you can make Crysis look as good as that, but is it worth it?

To play games?

PCs evolve, sure, but a new graphics card costs you more than a console, so that argument is moot. and come on now, how many people have a top-tier triple SLI running alongside a three years old CPU? Thought so.

The thing is, the number of people buying über-powered, nitrogen-cooled, megabucks desktop PCs is on the wane. Laptops continue to increase market share, because for 99.5% of the stuff that people do, an $800 laptop is totally sufficient. And a PS3 can easily compete with that.

Furthermore, it's funny how it's precisely the same people who spend thousands of dollars on a gaming system so they can brag about how much better everything looks who only actually buy 10% of their games. So potentially, sure, a PC will always be more powerful than any console.

The question is when people will stop programming games (or optimising graphics) for the handful of pirating, faux-élitist people out there.
I'm genuinely STAGGERED by the ignorance in this post. Everything you just said is a tired stereotype.

As has been said for years now, $600-700 will get you a PC that blows any console out of the water, and has more varied uses as well.

Secondly, I don't know a single person who buys "über-powered, nitrogen-cooled, megabucks desktop PCs," as that's an extremely small percentage of the PC gamers. Chances are, those people are either filthy rich, a hobbyist, or professional gaming is their actual job.

Third, your assumption that basically all PC gamers are filthy pirates. Bull. Fucking. Shit. Piracy is a problem, and it's more prevalent on PC than any other platform, I will not deny that. But you're still talking out of your ass. Xbox 360 piracy is rampant, Nintendo DS piracy is HORRIFYING. And yet, it's still only the PC that gets the flak for it.

Finally, your last sentence basically lost you any credibility you might have had. You basically think that PC gamers have no right to their platform of choice?

Folks, I believe we have a console elitist here.
A mid-range PC will always cost the same price, regardless of the tech inside at the time. A mid-range PC in 2010, will go for the same < $1000 price tag as a mid-range PC in 2005 - the difference is, while in 2005 you may have got a Pentium 4 machine, nowadays "mid-range" will get you Dual or Quad core, a new Nvidia or ATi card, and 4GB of RAM at least. And most PC developers will optimize their products for the mid-range and below-average stuff.

Crysis was released in 2007; now, in 2010, it's STILL the benchmark in terms of sheer resource usage and processing power. And in 2010, Crysis will run on a low-to-mid-range computer. The next Crysis is years off, so in the meantime, a new, good-priced PC, is going to be the best looking gaming machine on the market.

With evolution and new technology, comes cheaper prices.
 

bojac6

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bahumat42 said:
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crysis will not only run , but run well on under a thousand dollars (assuming your competent enough to self build).

And are you kidding on piracy all you need is a wrie and an empty cartridge, both very easy to get, to the extent every ds owner i know has at least one ripped game, if not a fair few. Il agree the x360 piracy is more tricky (considering the banhammer of xbox live) but still workable, i know some1 who had been banned 6 times because for him its cheaper to pirate 16 games and then buy a new harddrive at 80 quid (Which it is).
Okay, I'm sure Crysis can run on a cheaper machine, I've never tried. I tend to find, though, that though you bought your machine for under a thousand dollars, after a few years, you've spent more than that on upgrades. I do build and maintain my own, but for the price of a new console, I can get a video card with no other new parts.

As for piracy, I don't know what a wrie is. According to Wikipedia, it's a radio station in Pennsylvania. I have no idea where one would get an empty cartridge and I know nobody with ripped DS games. I know nobody with pirated 360 or PS3 games. You seem connected and to know people who pirate that stuff and good for you, I guess, but that doesn't make it easy. Any idiot can pirate PC games, but you're explaining this to somebody who builds his own PC and I still don't have a clue how I would go about pirating on a console or a handheld.
 

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I'm a console gamer but even i think PCs will always look better but there too damn expensive. A console may not look much better but its cheaper and you can still play the same games on it.
 

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JeanLuc761 said:
Warped_Ghost said:
Well that depends how you look at it. Consoles are cheaper, an xbox probably wont make that type of quality picture but the thing only cost 300$ while that PC is probably 1000$ or more.
*resists the admittedly tempting urge to rage over the stereotype*
*takes deep breath*

Alright, here we go. Yes, an Xbox does an impressive amount for $300, but building an equivalent PC should, if you're savvy, take no more than $500-600 to get a machine that will not only destroy the Xbox on any game out there, but is also capable of much more than just gaming.
1. You don't have to build your own xbox. Thats why I was comparing the xbox to a packaged PC.
2. That is still twice the amount of an xbox and the graphics isn't worth 300 extra bucks to a lot of people.
3. You have to keep on upgrading your PC to run current games. Consoles you just have to have the current gen.

But I will give you the point that PC can do other things than gaming.
 

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Yes. At the time of there release, consoles are on the cutting edge. But after that, PC's overtake them.

So really, this is a pointless question. "PC" isn't a standardized system, so you need to clarify which exact PC you are talking about.

Also, graphics. Big whup.
 

RobCoxxy

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Short answer no.
Long answer noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
 

e2density

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Nope. People always say "Consoles are far superior to PC's because they are cheaper, Xbox 360's are only $200 now"

Well yeah, because the technology inside of them is 1/4 as good as a gaming PC...