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[ultimateownage]

To anyone saying 'it's just ironsights' that isn't the OP's idea.
He wants it to have realistic 'body damage', and make the enemies take cover and act tactical. You know, the exact opposite of how Half Life's mechanics work.

 

[The Bucket]

You can't seriously believe that adding this one thing would change the entire game, can you?

Yes.
The feel of half life is a very unique thing, and having iron sights would ruin that.

This, so much. Modern FPS's get a lot of flak (some deserved, some undeserved), but the biggest problem for me is that they all feel like reskinned versions of each other. Half Life has its own style, crosbows (along with other ranged weapons) work far differently to the rest of them for a reason.

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

You can't seriously believe that adding this one thing would change the entire game, can you?

It's actually a very reasonable assumption to make. By adding in the iron sights the game becomes far more combat focused, you're now in the eyes of a soldier, not just a scientist. It may seem like a simple addition, but it does change a lot of the perspective of the game, not just the gameplay. And, if you can't see how important perspective is games then you should take a step back and re-evaluate how you see games.

 

[SpAc3man]

The HEV Suit provides the crosshair as a part of the HUD. No need for ADS because there is already advanced artificial aiming aids.

 

[Amphoteric]

I really hope there isn't a sight in Episode 3. There is no need for it at all. Why change fundamental gameplay mechanics for the final part of the episode trilogy?

 

[Skorpyo]

Iron Sights are kind of gimmicky, which is something Valve isn't too big on.

*other users whisper in my ear*

What?

*whisper whisper*

Hats? OOOHHH.....

 

[Valenza]

I always love my guns taking up half of the entire screen!

Let's totally do that!

 

[Victory7]

No. The Half-Life series' combat is created to be fast-paced CINEMATIC (key-word) action. Running through city streets, climbing buildings, dodging gunships (all of it being central to the story) and all the while having to aim down the ironsights would be more of a hindrance than anything else. Beyond that, aiming down the side of the gun simply FEELS more movie-esque (Freedom Fighters, anyone?), as if you're looking through a camera and not exactly through the character's eyes. That's why you don't see yourself as a model in the game. You're not playing Gordon per-se, he's just the vehicle for YOUR actions. Aiming down the sights breaks this fragile illusion.

 

[Victory7]

I doubt it
it enhances the immage of him being not a super soldier but just a scientist in combat armor!

This, more or less. He's no space marine.

This!
All of you may ramble on, coming up with arguments one way or the other but it does not change the fact that he is not a trained soldier, he is a Theoretical Physicist. Yes he picked up a lot of experience with guns during his... "adventure" but he is still just a physicist with no prior experience with guns (at least this is the way I look at him).

And for the reason I saw that it doesn't take a genius to figure out that aiming with the ironsight increases the guns accuracy, BUT! Have you ever tried it yourself? It is also increasingly difficult to actually shoot if you are not trained in it.

Edit: *Plus the whole suit thingy he has going for him. It is the most badass piece of equipment ever.

This is also just a ramble but it just makes most sense. He is not a trained soldier even with the experience he has gotten, he knows how to handle guns but not that well. Some of you may not think it would be gamebreaking, and it might not be but it doesn't fit with the character and that will ruin the experience for many. Gamedesign is an art, and even if you change just one thing, the whole meaning can change like any art.

Gordon gets combat training in Half-Life 1. How does everyone overlook this?

 

[Victory7]

I doubt it
it enhances the immage of him being not a super soldier but just a scientist in combat armor!

This, more or less. He's no space marine.

This!
All of you may ramble on, coming up with arguments one way or the other but it does not change the fact that he is not a trained soldier, he is a Theoretical Physicist. Yes he picked up a lot of experience with guns during his... "adventure" but he is still just a physicist with no prior experience with guns (at least this is the way I look at him).

And for the reason I saw that it doesn't take a genius to figure out that aiming with the ironsight increases the guns accuracy, BUT! Have you ever tried it yourself? It is also increasingly difficult to actually shoot if you are not trained in it.

Edit: *Plus the whole suit thingy he has going for him. It is the most badass piece of equipment ever.

This is also just a ramble but it just makes most sense. He is not a trained soldier even with the experience he has gotten, he knows how to handle guns but not that well. Some of you may not think it would be gamebreaking, and it might not be but it doesn't fit with the character and that will ruin the experience for many. Gamedesign is an art, and even if you change just one thing, the whole meaning can change like any art.

Gordon gets combat training in Half-Life 1. How does everyone overlook this?

Also, the gun is always accurate, it's the shooter's skill that affects where the bullet hits. Also also, it's very easy to aim down the sights of a firearm. Go to a shooting range sometime.

 

[Nieroshai]

But with the new Source engine the could include a localized body damage mechanic, it seems a pretty lame excuse not to include an aim mechanic "because we dont want to be like CoD" well..do you want to be like every man on the planet? because you don't have to be..well..Gordon Freeman to know that looking along the top of your gun might just give you a more accurate shot.

i mean he has been fighting super soldiers, black ops agents, killer aliens and robots for a few years now. It's maybe time he applied his knowledge of science to the art of Shooty-cuffs.

Meh, id personally go for some good alien leg shots and then a head shot on a - now - crawling alien.

The suit does everything, there is no need to aim down sights. Iron sights are redundant, and unneeded.

Kinda like how Master Chief's crosshairs are projected based on where the gun is pointed, not where he's looking? I wonder though, how does Freeman see the hud if he doesn't have a helmet or other viewing device?

 

[Pyro Paul]

But with the new Source engine the could include a localized body damage mechanic, it seems a pretty lame excuse not to include an aim mechanic "because we dont want to be like CoD" well..do you want to be like every man on the planet? because you don't have to be..well..Gordon Freeman to know that looking along the top of your gun might just give you a more accurate shot.

i mean he has been fighting super soldiers, black ops agents, killer aliens and robots for a few years now. It's maybe time he applied his knowledge of science to the art of Shooty-cuffs.

Meh, id personally go for some good alien leg shots and then a head shot on a - now - crawling alien.

The suit does everything, there is no need to aim down sights. Iron sights are redundant, and unneeded.

Kinda like how Master Chief's crosshairs are projected based on where the gun is pointed, not where he's looking? I wonder though, how does Freeman see the hud if he doesn't have a helmet or other viewing device?

those thick frame glasses do more then just swoon the ladies.

 

[Pyro Paul]

Kicked enough Ass
Busted enough Can
Prodded enough Buttock

By the time HL3 is released to have learned how to aim down the sights?

he has a complex AI assisted power suit that can fix broken bones and internal bleeding by just staring intently at a wall mounted healing station...

It can zoom his vision with no real mechism or optical aid...

and project a cross hair off of a Gun with pin point accuracy that he isn't even holding (tau cannon on the buggy)

why would he need to look down the sites?
his suit does all that crap for him already.

 

[Troublesome Lagomorph]

No. I'm pretty sure the interface isn't going to change much.

And face it: it would be out of place in a game like half-life, where you have a percentage health bar, no regenerating health and can carry a small armory.

 

[Nieroshai]

But with the new Source engine the could include a localized body damage mechanic, it seems a pretty lame excuse not to include an aim mechanic "because we dont want to be like CoD" well..do you want to be like every man on the planet? because you don't have to be..well..Gordon Freeman to know that looking along the top of your gun might just give you a more accurate shot.

i mean he has been fighting super soldiers, black ops agents, killer aliens and robots for a few years now. It's maybe time he applied his knowledge of science to the art of Shooty-cuffs.

Meh, id personally go for some good alien leg shots and then a head shot on a - now - crawling alien.

The suit does everything, there is no need to aim down sights. Iron sights are redundant, and unneeded.

Kinda like how Master Chief's crosshairs are projected based on where the gun is pointed, not where he's looking? I wonder though, how does Freeman see the hud if he doesn't have a helmet or other viewing device?

those thick frame glasses do more then just swoon the ladies.

For the sake of arguing the point, he had the glasses before the suit and other wearers of the Black Mesa environment suits didn't have glasses of any kind. I would like to think the HUD is something Freeman sees, it bugs me though that there doesn't look like any way for him to see it.

 

[NerfedFalcon]

Gordon Freeman doesn't need iron sights. He's so badass that he has perfect accuracy from the hip, despite being a scientist instead of a gun enthusiast. (Actually, maybe he is a gun enthusiast...That's how Louis does it.) Serious Sam and Doomguy don't need to look down the sights to hit things from ten feet away, and everyone agrees they're badass, right?

 

[Pedro The Hutt]

I don't see why Half-Life ~needs~ iron sights. The guns are accurate enough, you don't get penalties in accuracy for moving, and you inversely wouldn't, and shouldn't get increased accuracy for ramming the gun against your cheek and peering down a scope or sights.

Heck, I would argue that Half-Life would be less fun with iron sights, just like how TF2 wouldn't benefit from it at all. You run, and gun, looking down iron sights interferes with the running.

So yeah, bottom line, we've got a crosshair and that's more than enough for us.

 

[Phoenix Arrow]

It doesn't really matter. It's a lot of extra coding for no real benefit. The normal crosshairs are accurate enough that it doesn't really matter so if you added the aim mechanic, would you get rid of those? That would be suicide.

One of the things I liked about Half Life was that the gun fights were very fast paced. I liked that you didn't have to hold the gun up to your face to shoot every time, you could dash from dash out from a door way and quickly gun down some combine then dash back to reload. They're the only company that I can think of off the top of my head that still make shooting happen like that and I enjoy it.

Half Life isn't and was never meant to be a tactical shooter and that's ok.

As for people saying "oh, he's a physicist, he doesn't understand aiming". Shut up. There are plenty of valid reasons why Valve haven't used aiming in Half Life games. That is not one of them.

Ugh. I just read some of the other justifications too. Love Half Life. Hate Valve fanboys.

 

[health-bar]

I want ironsights only on weapons that it would be impractical to ironsight aim with.

so: grenade launcher, (laser guided) rocket launcher, grenade, and yes....the crowbar!

 

[RA92]

Ironsights? Gah! Why the hell would I want my movement restricted while shooting? It's not like it adds greater accuracy, since the crosshair does that perfectly well. Not to mention sticking the whole gun up my nose.