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Right, so aiming is now something only marines do.TheDarkEricDraven said:
I play paintball and I know how to use the sights on my gun, am I a marine? You don't need to be a marine to use sights.
(Note: I don't think he needs it, but seriously, these are the arguments people come up with? What the hell?)
This...albiet more seriouslyis probably the issue that Valve would have with iron sights. Half of the appeal of HL2 (and 1) is that it is digressive; you are often not looking "where you are meant to be going", you are marveling at the world, peeking at combine torturing people in side streets, noticing LOST themed graffti here and there. Anything that narrows the players field of vision would likely be frowned on by Valve.Valenza said:
Gordan Freeman sucks. All he does is spectacularly fail to save humanity(Half Life 1), lead the Combine to multiple resistance bases(Throughout HL2 and episodes), and displace/kill millions of civilians(end of HL 2).
Also, he's probably one of the few protagonists in videogames that actually has LESS character then Master Chief.
Also, he's probably one of the few protagonists in videogames that actually has LESS character then Master Chief.
Good for you, I guess. Personally, I'm terrible at aiming on both platforms, and play as medic in TF2 because I can't hit anything (whereas with medic, I don't have to because of how the medgun works, heehee!). Personally, I like the idea of giving certain weapons iron sights or scopes - I mean, look at the SMG, it has a scope you for some reason can't use. Same goes for the rocket launcher.Treblaine said:
I don,t think HL will work with iron sights also WHY would you want them if every weapon already has crossairs.
Why doesn't Gordon use that sight? Well because the optic on the SMG is a "Reflex sight" which is designed to "Project a cross-hairs over where the bullets will hit with minimum obstruction" without any zoom or any other effect.OhJohnNo said:
Gordon's HEV suit does that already with the Heads up display painting an absolutely perfect Crosshairs in the middle of the screen. Modern military soldiers would trade their boots for a sight that good that so far is only sci-fi (though technically feasible, it would require micrometre precise motion tracking).
So the reflex sight on the SMG is superfluous for Gordon, probably on there for the measly Combine to aim with adequate accuracy.
Look into macros that "reduce mouse sensitivity" and bound that to right-click or shift for a replication of ADS as that's all it does: finer movements. Maybe mix walk-toggle into the macro as well.
But really man, you just have to practice and remember my unofficial totally-not-made-up-on-the-spot Golden Rules of aiming:
Rule #1 = if you are thinking about the aiming you will be too slow, you have to trust you subconscious, FEEL THE FORCE. You have to have that "Turn off your targeting computer" moment and just go for it try to make the headshot as a twitch motion, trust your reflexes and eventually you will get good.
Rule #2 = ease yourself in slowly with a challenge level you can learn from, play a game with a lot of intermittent enemies like Bioshock. When you collide with them be bold, use tonics and weapons that favour headshots like and go for the quick efficient kill.
Rule #3 = you'll never get better at aiming playing Medic, at least no the way most people play. Be an ACTIVE medic, you can be a lot more use at times laying down fire than healing (10 seconds after taking damage the heal is at the minimum 24hp/sec rate) and you should aim to heal and buff every team-mate in sight, even when healing a heavy if a friendly scout runs by heal that scout then go back to Heavy. One good medic with quick aim can buff almost his entire team at once. Your uber meter builds 2x as fast when healing injured teammates.
Rule #4 = disregard all the others, this should be rule #1, get a good mouse mat, a mat you can glide your mouse over smooothly and consistently. The free mouse-mats or just your table-top is usually not an adequate surface, you want a hard sturdy surface that is slick like graphite.
I can't speak for the other guy, but I've seem people use the term "aiming from the hip" for any time a gun is fired without looking through the sights. For example it is possible to have a weapon held with the buttstock well seated in the shoulder to absorb the recoil but with your head held high is about 8 inches higher and 4 inches to the left of ths sight line.Abandon4093 said:
In fact to fire most rifles from a standing position, one must hold the rifle with the stock so high up on the shoulder (so that the weapon is no longer recoiling directly into the body) and stooping the head down to be in line with the sights that are already raised high above the barrel line (leading to parallax problems).
Just look at this picture:
Notice the M4 Carbine's straight-line stock is negated by how only the lower part of the stock is actually held in the shoulder, and I detect a distinct "hunch" of the shoulders up and head stooped.
Of course, this is the best the Army can do with the realities of combat, we did not evolve to fire rifles from standing, and every soldier does not yet have a "heads-up-display" of cross-hairs shooting where their weapon is pointed. However, Gordon Freeman does. And look at the way he holds the weapons in game:
it's not like it is lolling around at waist height but up and shouldered but shouldered low and with head held high. I've held a metre-ruler like this against my low shoulder and the line of perspective is exactly in line with the perspective seen in HL2.
The stupid thing about CoD and other FPS is that when you fire "from the hip," the weapon is still held against your shoulder. The only difference is that your head is raised, yet somehow the bullets barely travel in straight lines, zooming off at odd angles. Move your head behind the sights, and the gun magically becomes laser-accurate (and games (besides Arma 2) never have bullets follow true parabolic paths even when they brag about realistic ballistics).
Guns should still put bullets in the same place when you're not sighted it, you just shouldn't know where they are pointing at that moment.
Guns should still put bullets in the same place when you're not sighted it, you just shouldn't know where they are pointing at that moment.
iron sights arent really important when the regular reticules are enough to snipe a ***** from half way across the map.
iron sights would just take up button space and be redundant since you have a scoped weapon on you nearly all times.
Halo doesnt let you look down iron sights and its fine.
iron sights would just take up button space and be redundant since you have a scoped weapon on you nearly all times.
Halo doesnt let you look down iron sights and its fine.
I don't think half life needs an iron sights. i mean, its already a point and shoot fps, it doesn't need the CoD "slowdown to aim" (and yes, its slower because you can only walk at best while aiming) it just doesn't fit half life's move on your toes combat.(and no im not crediting CoD with it, its just the most recent)
the freeman can run whilst capping a few combine and dodging headcrabs. why the hell would you want something that potentially limits that? besides, I usually ended up using the gravity gun more anyway. the guns that may have been aided by aiming were the pistol and machineguns, and they drop ammo religiously.
the freeman can run whilst capping a few combine and dodging headcrabs. why the hell would you want something that potentially limits that? besides, I usually ended up using the gravity gun more anyway. the guns that may have been aided by aiming were the pistol and machineguns, and they drop ammo religiously.
also i never liked the term "fire from the hip" i know what they mean but has anyone ever tried to shoot a gun like that? well lets say its a bad idea especially for shotguns. (part of my head STILL hurts from that)
It's not going to happen.
Half-Life is set pretty firmly in the old school tropes of shooters. Percentile health, armor on top of that, being a walking armory having an independant melee weapon (instead of a melee key) and being accurate without ADS.
And that's fine, because that's how HL rolls. It's the gameplay style.
Though, I do find the notion that Gordon doesn't ADS because he's a "Scientist" to be absolutely ludicrous.
Did you guys miss the entire first game by chance? The tutorial where it shows he's exceptionally physically fit and is skilled at handling firearms (As is required of all people of Gordon's job description - you see a number of HEV-suited, firearms totting bodies scattered around the Xen levels) and that's before the game even starts properly.
After that he not only kills tons and tons of horrible aliens, he massacres a fuckload of US Marines, and not only marines, but black-ops, wetworks team marines. Guys specifically picked for their ruthlessness and skill.
He survives multiple ambush attempt by them (including attempts with rocket launchers, bunkers, helicopters, and Browning .50 cals), kills even more, then goes on to invade an alien world, kill it's leader and some time later is brought back to murderlize the alien forces that took over the world is a measly seven hours. And he does it, too.
The man isn't some nerd who doesn't know the barrel from the sights. Gordon Freeman is more skilled a combatant than most soldiers. Hell, he's better than most teams of special forces soldiers.
Because in Killing floor ADS is the only way to aim. There is no crosshair, your options are:
- Oh god I hope I hit
and
- Aim down the sights you nonce.
Half-Life is set pretty firmly in the old school tropes of shooters. Percentile health, armor on top of that, being a walking armory having an independant melee weapon (instead of a melee key) and being accurate without ADS.
And that's fine, because that's how HL rolls. It's the gameplay style.
Though, I do find the notion that Gordon doesn't ADS because he's a "Scientist" to be absolutely ludicrous.
Did you guys miss the entire first game by chance? The tutorial where it shows he's exceptionally physically fit and is skilled at handling firearms (As is required of all people of Gordon's job description - you see a number of HEV-suited, firearms totting bodies scattered around the Xen levels) and that's before the game even starts properly.
After that he not only kills tons and tons of horrible aliens, he massacres a fuckload of US Marines, and not only marines, but black-ops, wetworks team marines. Guys specifically picked for their ruthlessness and skill.
He survives multiple ambush attempt by them (including attempts with rocket launchers, bunkers, helicopters, and Browning .50 cals), kills even more, then goes on to invade an alien world, kill it's leader and some time later is brought back to murderlize the alien forces that took over the world is a measly seven hours. And he does it, too.
The man isn't some nerd who doesn't know the barrel from the sights. Gordon Freeman is more skilled a combatant than most soldiers. Hell, he's better than most teams of special forces soldiers.
Treblaine said:
Whut. This is a mistake, right?
Because in Killing floor ADS is the only way to aim. There is no crosshair, your options are:
- Oh god I hope I hit
and
- Aim down the sights you nonce.
I would like to be able to shoot while zoomed. Maybe a 'squint real hard' option?
If you want accuracy use the pistol in HL2.
This particular mechanic will have no effect on whether or not I buy HL3. Because I'm buying HL3 no matter what. I need it for its engine. Though I might wait until its bundled with every other source engine game like Orange Box.
If you want accuracy use the pistol in HL2.
This particular mechanic will have no effect on whether or not I buy HL3. Because I'm buying HL3 no matter what. I need it for its engine. Though I might wait until its bundled with every other source engine game like Orange Box.