Windows Store Won't Sell Adult-Rated Games

GamingAwesome1

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I can think of no good reason for Microsoft to do this, I thought they wanted to compete, not make their competitors look good?

Just...what? Why are you providing more incentive for people to ignore Windows 8? Why are you not making any goddamn sense?
 

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GamingAwesome1 said:
I can think of no good reason for Microsoft to do this, I thought they wanted to compete, not make their competitors look good?
I'm afraid that maybe they DON'T want to compete.

If they add this store into Win8 as just a prototype that isn't expected to be very successful, but then release Win9 as a locked system with this as the only allowed content source, then every PC software sale will go through them, whether we like it or not.
 

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Entitled said:
GamingAwesome1 said:
I can think of no good reason for Microsoft to do this, I thought they wanted to compete, not make their competitors look good?
I'm afraid that maybe they DON'T want to compete.

If they add this store into Win8 as just a prototype that isn't expected to be very successful, but then release Win9 as a locked system with this as the only allowed content source, then every PC software sale will go through them, whether we like it or not.
But the only outcome of that would not be everyone moving to Windows 9 and Microsoft gains dominance, the outcome would be everyone fucking ignores Win 9 like the plague, a totally locked system would be something most people who develop on PC would be wary of (As they are with Win 8) and as such they wouldn't develop for those platforms.

They're already doing a pretty good job of getting people to ignore Win 8 by locking adult games. The only way I see this going is not market dominance but total failure.
 

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The amount of misleading press Windows 8 gets is absolutely fucking staggering... I know there's this tiny one-line acknowledgement in the second to last paragraph of how much this actually matters, but then why make an article about it???

I cannot believe how thoroughly confused everyone is by Windows RT...

I'll just say it once more in the hope a single person learns something:

[HEADING=2]Windows 8 does not force you to use the store; Windows RT does.

Windows RT is for tablets.

Example: Windows RT is to Windows 8 as iOS is to Mac OS X
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I was going to mention how at least one of these Windows 8-bashing articles finally pointed out "It should be noted that users of Windows 8 can still freely install and play these games on the operating system," but you've clearly beat me to it.

Don't like where things are going? The root cause of all this is the explosive success of the iPad. So, are you part of that problem? You don't want Microsoft to make your desktop environment a tablet? Well, would you ever buy a Windows tablet-only OS? Windows RT is as close as you'll get. As an added bonus, it even comes with Office 2013.

You don't want a Windows tablet OS? Microsoft basically knows this. They've been trying to make a tablet market for over a decade with no real success. They know the only way their tablet OS is going to work is if they integrate it with the traditional Windows.

Anyway, buy Windows 8 (not RT, Windows 8). I'm serious, buy it and use it in a way that works for you, because otherwise, you're not sending any sort of telemetry usage data to Microsoft and the only information they're going to get about how Windows 8 is used is going to come from the people who spend all day on Facebook and looking at their e-mail or camera photos and don't care about the desktop. If the bulk of Windows 8 users are normal people using Windows 8-style apps and who rarely or never use the desktop, then maybe Windows 9, whenever it comes, will be nothing but a tablet.

Sticking with Windows 7 or earlier because you don't like the idea of a mix of tablet and desktop or because Newell says Windows 8 is bad because Windows Marketplace will be a direct competitor is like not voting in the election because you think the choice between Obama or Romney is a hopeless lose/lose situation.
 

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GamingAwesome1 said:
But the only outcome of that would not be everyone moving to Windows 9 and Microsoft gains dominance, the outcome would be everyone fucking ignores Win 9 like the plague, a totally locked system would be something most people who develop on PC would be wary of (As they are with Win 8) and as such they wouldn't develop for those platforms.

They're already doing a pretty good job of getting people to ignore Win 8 by locking adult games. The only way I see this going is not market dominance but total failure.
Yeah, because someone like EA and Ubisoft would ignore it just out of principle. Or because random offices and households would refuse to buy it if they don't run shady unauthorised software.

Most gamers are already playing on locked-down systems anyways, most ordinary users are already used to selecting from a pre-assembled list of apps, and most publishers are used to dealing with a first-party distributor like Apple, Sony, or Nintendo. They WANT that shit, not having to deal with viruses, or compatibility, just have a nice set of icons for the basic programs that they bought from a catalog, the few that they will use anyways.

The ones this would screw over, would be the indie game developers, the modders, the pirates, the hackers, the artists, and generally the kind of skilled niche people who will know how to crack it, or learn to move to linux, so they won't mmake as much fuss as they should, either.
 

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Dinasis said:
Sticking with Windows 7 or earlier because you don't like the idea of a mix of tablet and desktop or because Newell says Windows 8 is bad because Windows Marketplace will be a direct competitor is like not voting in the election because you think the choice between Obama or Romney is a hopeless lose/lose situation.
Did you just compare Win8 with the presidential election?

This is just wrong. I don't see any reason to buy Windows 8 at all. I neither have a tablet PC nor do I want to use this crappy windows store. There is no advantage for me as a customer. So why should I buy? So I can show them that I'll even buy crappy operating systems?

If I buy I lose money if I don't buy safe money. That's not a lose/lose situation like your presidential elections. Oh and btw. don't you have any other parties or candidates you can vote for? I don't live in the US but it's hard to believe that there are no minor political parties you could vote for - you know the kind of people that give a shit about your rights? If someone told me either to vote for obomney or rombama or take a bullet to the head I'd say SHOOT!
 

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Well, half of those games are steamworks, so even if they allowed adult games, those games would not be on Windows store.
 

CrazyCapnMorgan

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Windows Store Won't Sell Adult-Rated Games = Windows Store Won't See Adult-Rated Cash.

Need we elaborate any further on this?
 

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Sounds like Microsoft has decided it is allergic to European money. That's a lot of top tier games right there, games that MS could have had a taste of. Now, they've basically guaranteed that people won't be using their marketplace for game purchases. Steam will remain dominant for the foreseeable future.
 

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Entitled said:
Most gamers are already playing on locked-down systems anyways, most ordinary users are already used to selecting from a pre-assembled list of apps, and most publishers are used to dealing with a first-party distributor like Apple, Sony, or Nintendo. They WANT that shit, not having to deal with viruses, or compatibility, just have a nice set of icons for the basic programs that they bought from a catalog, the few that they will use anyways.
Ugh... This.
I remember in the late 90s how we thought that in the future EVERYONE would be computer literate. Well that shit never happened and most people are still completely clueless. Thanks to Apple's success over the last few years, Microsoft have finally realised that regular consumers are perfectly fine with imposed limitations and restrictions.

The future sucks.
 

Xan Krieger

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CrazyCapnMorgan said:
Windows Store Won't Sell Adult-Rated Games = Windows Store Won't See Adult-Rated Cash.

Need we elaborate any further on this?
Pretty much this. Microsoft sees that it could make a large amount of cash easily but it's turning it down. So rare you see a company turn down a chance to make a huge profit.
 

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OK. So whoever made that decision probably didn't understand the difference between American and European ratings systems for games. A lot of people(i.e., non-American people who aren't children) won't use it, and they'll either continue to be a really shitty service, or they'll fix the stupid rule, which they will soon realize was a mistake.

In the meantime, who cares? Steam already exists, so this shouldn't actually be a problem for anyone who isn't in charge of the Windows Store.
 

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Mr.Tea said:
The amount of misleading press Windows 8 gets is absolutely fucking staggering... I know there's this tiny one-line acknowledgement in the second to last paragraph of how much this actually matters, but then why make an article about it???

I cannot believe how thoroughly confused everyone is by Windows RT...

I'll just say it once more in the hope a single person learns something:

[HEADING=2]Windows 8 does not force you to use the store; Windows RT does.

Windows RT is for tablets.

Example: Windows RT is to Windows 8 as iOS is to Mac OS X
[/HEADING]
Wrong. Windows RT is the ARM build of Windows 8.

Apart from the artificial limitation to TIKFAM (The Interface Formerly Known As Metro) apps there is technically no difference between Win 8 and Win RT. And while IOS is based on bits of OSX these days they have as much in common as Android and Slackware do.

MS would certainly prefer WinRT to be used on tablets, but there are x86-based tablets coming out that will run the full version of Win 8 and an OEM could slap WinRT on one of the various designs for ARM desktops that are floating about.
 

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nodlimax said:
Dinasis said:
Sticking with Windows 7 or earlier because you don't like the idea of a mix of tablet and desktop or because Newell says Windows 8 is bad because Windows Marketplace will be a direct competitor is like not voting in the election because you think the choice between Obama or Romney is a hopeless lose/lose situation.
Did you just compare Win8 with the presidential election?

This is just wrong. I don't see any reason to buy Windows 8 at all. I neither have a tablet PC nor do I want to use this crappy windows store. There is no advantage for me as a customer. So why should I buy? So I can show them that I'll even buy crappy operating systems?

If I buy I lose money if I don't buy safe money. That's not a lose/lose situation like your presidential elections. Oh and btw. don't you have any other parties or candidates you can vote for? I don't live in the US but it's hard to believe that there are no minor political parties you could vote for - you know the kind of people that give a shit about your rights? If someone told me either to vote for obomney or rombama or take a bullet to the head I'd say SHOOT!
Thank you.

Only a fool would vote for Romney or Obama, or someone that clearly does not give even an ounce of shit about civil liberties OR decreased spending OR decreasing our insane military presence throughout the rest of the world.

And, hell, to carry the analogy offered by the other guy, only a (relative) fool would buy Windows 8, or at least someone that doesn't give a damn about open platforms being combined with ease-of-use and blah blah blah, which, granted, isn't nearly as important as civil liberties, but yeah.

I'm not throwing more money at Microsoft for a shitty product.
 

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No small surprise they want to block it off. As another said, you can still use Steam on Windows 8. You MUST use the app store to get stuff on their tablets, which is why I won't be using one of their tablets. From my perspective, they are far far far behind the curve on this. My buddy bought a Windows phone, and while it's a nice piece of technology, there is nothing on it because no one will develop for MS's mobile platform. All the fans say it was just a test bed for an app store, but they lost customers by using them as guinea pigs. My buddy won't buy one anytime soon.

While I'm ranting, I'm just about done with tablet or phone games, they are mostly complete shit, a lot of them aren't even worth the dollar they cost. No one really makes legitimate gamer games for them, and while there are examples of them getting it graphically done, the games themselves are horrible. I found a fun FPS style game that is impossible on touch screen controls. I found another that was pretty sweet, until I had to spend real money to progress in the game. And ultimately, that game was shallow as fuck and had very few tricks up it's sleeve. I think about all my favorite games and they can never be represented on a phone. And yes, while it may take time to get something like controls right, in regards to what any other gaming platform does, they are moving at the slowest pace in respect to progressing positively.

/end rant

Back OT: No biggie, they will support Windows 7 for a few iterations more of Windows. And by the time they really start to restrict the system, Linux will be ready for gamers.