Wing Commander Creator Raises $6 Million For Star Citizen
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What?BloodRed Pixel said:
You back the project and you get a ship.
That ship gets destroyed, you get another ship of the same type.
How the hell did you get 'it's a subscription!' From that? Did you do any sort of research?
The ship insurance is in game insurance bought with in game credits.BloodRed Pixel said:
Ships acquired through pledging come with free lifetime insurance for the hull to make sure you never lose the hull.
Dexter111 said:
You do know that these "galactic credits" are the standard in game currency right?
And that this game has both singleplayer and private multiplayer?
The whole topic was unclear and the RSI forum was down at the time of my resaerch.Ed130 said:
Anyway, the whole pledging (real money) for ships with life time insurance or tiers with 1 to 4
months ensurance, gradually getting better more expensive? Pay2Win IMHO. Why would I need such a thing anyway. What's wrong with save and reload?
This is obviously not my type game anyway, though I enjoyed Wing Commander 1-4. So it doesn't matter to any one other than me and maybe Dexter111.
Still got my old joystick in a cupboard somewhere. When this comes out It'll be like a free game because i paid for it the year before. love that.just enjoying the years worth of anticipation is almost worth the money.
I love how people are complaining about the currency system (read, Galactic Credits purchasable with real money).
It's not like there's another MMO that does exactly that, gets away with it with no one complaining AND is certainly not considered to be Pay2Win by anyone sane.
It feels like Chris took quite a bit of influence from that game in terms of how to make the persistent world Multiplayer Server. That was one of the reasons I backed this project.
Anyway, congratulations to Chris and the whole crew over at RSI. I really hope you deliver and show that there is room for good Space-Sims out there.
It's not like there's another MMO that does exactly that, gets away with it with no one complaining AND is certainly not considered to be Pay2Win by anyone sane.
It feels like Chris took quite a bit of influence from that game in terms of how to make the persistent world Multiplayer Server. That was one of the reasons I backed this project.
Anyway, congratulations to Chris and the whole crew over at RSI. I really hope you deliver and show that there is room for good Space-Sims out there.
People seem to complain for the sake of complaining, Please do some research, learn what pay 2 play and free 2 play entails, learn what makes them different, and for gods sake learn to keep your mouth shut and your opinions to yourself when you haven't bothered to do 5 minutes worth of web browsing. Do it for the betterment of all mankind.
Considering the excellent and hard work the people that develop Freespace 2: Source Code Project and the related upgrading and support of the game by that community (and others that build off it), I think its safe to say the genre is very much alive and wanted, just been waiting for someone to offer the right game.Eleima said:
Indeed.NKRevan said:
I certainly hope so. If you look at genres like MMORPGs and FPS, it's obvious just how much games copy each other. Not always in a good way (goddamn knee-high walls), but usually it's a case of incorporating useful innovation. I'm always amazed at just how terrible the UIs and controls of many of my favourite old games actually are when compared with modern games. With space sims, there have basically only been two players - Eve and the X series. While the space sims of old were fun at the time, if a new one didn't take account of all the things those two have done, it would probably end up being a pretty poor game.It feels like Chris took quite a bit of influence from that game in terms of how to make the persistent world Multiplayer Server. That was one of the reasons I backed this project.
I'm amazed that everyone seems to be so amazed about this. Space sims were hugely popular, and then suddenly everyone stopped making them for no apparent reason. Maybe they weren't as profitable as some genres, but there weren't really any high-profile flops that put developers off and suggested the market had gone, they just stopped. So it's hardly surprising that a lot of people actually want one when someone decides they're going to make one.Eleima said:
What I do find quite odd is why they seem to be thought of as a PC exclusive genre. Console controls suck horribly for FPS, yet they've become the big player in consoles and much less of a player on PCs. Space sims and flying games are best with a joystick-type controller, and consoles usually already have two sticks on a controller, while PCs often won't have one at all unless it's a leftover from old games. So you have a very popular genre (see Star Wars, Star Trek, BSG, etc.) perfectly set up to be played on the most popular gaming systems, yet everyone completely ignores them and just makes the occasional PC exclusive every decade or so.
I see what you are saying, and I had a similar concern as well (not just with the pay model, but other details that were vague). However, I believe the reason it wasn't fully detailed is because the game is still very early in development and they wanted to leave some wiggle room for final balance and testing.Dexter111 said:
Also, if you're worried about the multiplayer being unfair, they are still promising an extensive single player campaign as well. And IMO, my $30 investment will be more than worth it if even the single player is fun...if the multiplayer ends up being good too, that's just a bonus.
Ultimately I looked at it more as a statement to the gaming industry about what gamers really want rather than only funding this single game. If a $6M up-front investment for a PC exclusive doesn't turn a few heads, I will be shocked.