winows 7 RC(release candidate)
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ooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh i get it. So a partition appears in the computer screen as a completely seperate device. interesting.mikecoulter said:Yes, that is a partition from the one hard drive.jonnopon3000 said:
Thanks for the help buddy. But problem. It is only 9 GB and 7 takes 16. Oh well...new partition here i come
No problemjonnopon3000 said:ooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh i get it. So a partition appears in the computer screen as a completely seperate device. interesting.mikecoulter said:Yes, that is a partition from the one hard drive.jonnopon3000 said:
Thanks for the help buddy. But problem. It is only 9 GB and 7 takes 16. Oh well...new partition here i come
Let us know how it goes. I for one am a fan of Windows 7, it doesn't seem to be buggy...
yeh. And have u seen the video on youtube? it demonstrates the new aero stuffmikecoulter said:No problemjonnopon3000 said:ooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh i get it. So a partition appears in the computer screen as a completely seperate device. interesting.mikecoulter said:Yes, that is a partition from the one hard drive.jonnopon3000 said:
Thanks for the help buddy. But problem. It is only 9 GB and 7 takes 16. Oh well...new partition here i come
Its like aero on steroids!!!
Will keep you all updated
Slow down there. From your previous posts, it sounds like this might be your first installation of an alternative OS, alternative meaning anything other than the Windows that came with your machine. I can tell you from experience that before you do any upgrade, no matter how "safe" it appears, you should verify a couple things.
First, make sure you have a backup of your OS for reinstalling, from scratch if necessary. Also be sure to backup any of your documents, save game files, media, that you just can't live without. I'd recommend picking up an external hard drive for the task if you don't already have one.
Second, realize that using your backup partition as a place to install Windows 7 could leave you SOL if you don't have any restore media. Some machine vendors (ie Dell) are sketchy on warranty and support, if you wipe it out you might be on your own.
Third, if you need a recommendation of partition sizes I'd go with 30GB - 40GB now-a-days for an OS partition. There is just too much bloat, and using Tools like Partition Magic to resize your existing partitions always introduces an element of risk, so you're better off padding it a bit. Just create another non-OS partition to put your games, media, etc... and the next time Windows goes down you can format the OS partition and reinstall like nothing happened. A word of warning on this is that some manufacturer's restore disks may enforce a specific setup, so if you don't have a proper Windows OS disk, this may not be an option. A second hard disk is always an option, assuming you set it as your primary disk.
Fourth, be ready for the unexpected. On a dual boot setup Windows 7 creates an additional partition for keeping track of boot records (typically 100MB in size). This partition isn't really dangerous, however it can be a real headache to get your other OS's working (read Linux). I'd recommend having another computer available at all times so you can do research if something goes wrong.
Finally, it is considered bad practice to upgrade or downgrade most OS's, especially Microsoft ones. Often not all of the files from the older OS are removed properly and cause strange behavior to occur. For stability reasons it is always better to do a fresh install, just to make sure you didn't have any strange hooks from previously installed programs. And if you didn't have any previously installed programs, doing a fresh install won't hurt anything anyways.
Good luck on the install and I wish you luck. I personally was impressed with Windows 7 64 bit until I found out that it has the same problems with my NVidia card as Vista 64 (when 3d mode is initialized some NVidia cards show garbage, no matter what drivers are installed). Everyone I know who hasn't encountered this issue says the RC is rock solid and is very pleased. Just be careful you are prepared for what you are getting yourself into.
First, make sure you have a backup of your OS for reinstalling, from scratch if necessary. Also be sure to backup any of your documents, save game files, media, that you just can't live without. I'd recommend picking up an external hard drive for the task if you don't already have one.
Second, realize that using your backup partition as a place to install Windows 7 could leave you SOL if you don't have any restore media. Some machine vendors (ie Dell) are sketchy on warranty and support, if you wipe it out you might be on your own.
Third, if you need a recommendation of partition sizes I'd go with 30GB - 40GB now-a-days for an OS partition. There is just too much bloat, and using Tools like Partition Magic to resize your existing partitions always introduces an element of risk, so you're better off padding it a bit. Just create another non-OS partition to put your games, media, etc... and the next time Windows goes down you can format the OS partition and reinstall like nothing happened. A word of warning on this is that some manufacturer's restore disks may enforce a specific setup, so if you don't have a proper Windows OS disk, this may not be an option. A second hard disk is always an option, assuming you set it as your primary disk.
Fourth, be ready for the unexpected. On a dual boot setup Windows 7 creates an additional partition for keeping track of boot records (typically 100MB in size). This partition isn't really dangerous, however it can be a real headache to get your other OS's working (read Linux). I'd recommend having another computer available at all times so you can do research if something goes wrong.
Finally, it is considered bad practice to upgrade or downgrade most OS's, especially Microsoft ones. Often not all of the files from the older OS are removed properly and cause strange behavior to occur. For stability reasons it is always better to do a fresh install, just to make sure you didn't have any strange hooks from previously installed programs. And if you didn't have any previously installed programs, doing a fresh install won't hurt anything anyways.
Good luck on the install and I wish you luck. I personally was impressed with Windows 7 64 bit until I found out that it has the same problems with my NVidia card as Vista 64 (when 3d mode is initialized some NVidia cards show garbage, no matter what drivers are installed). Everyone I know who hasn't encountered this issue says the RC is rock solid and is very pleased. Just be careful you are prepared for what you are getting yourself into.
Ok, all ur advice taken into account. I have already prepared my back-up and have my recovery disc ready. And i am not gonna install on my recovery partition, so don't worry there. I know there are risks and i have another computer ready with software that can help me out of a bad situation. And with 7 on a partition, there is no need to wipe my hard drive clean, so i will only need to uninstall 7 and remove the partition to restore my computer to how it used to be.cwalter5 said:
All sorted and in order, mainly cause of the help i have recieved on this forum. Thank you especially, for taking the time to write such a long list of advice and tips.
As i said, will keep people updated.
I am currently half-way through backing up ALL my files and programs
OK, my escapist buddies.
AN update on my situation
I have just finished backing up ALL my files, settings and programs...and i have a choice.
DO i install 7 now, and play with it for like an hour before having to retire to bed, or do i wait till after i have finished my coursework tomorrow and have like 5 hours to mess with it with a friend?
(Im quite excitied about using 7)
AN update on my situation
I have just finished backing up ALL my files, settings and programs...and i have a choice.
DO i install 7 now, and play with it for like an hour before having to retire to bed, or do i wait till after i have finished my coursework tomorrow and have like 5 hours to mess with it with a friend?
(Im quite excitied about using 7)
I highly recommend windows 7 RC. I admit i completely ignored it and installed it on my laptop (although i completely backed up all my files first - i'm not a complete idiot ).
Tbh i found the installation pretty idiot proof, stick a CD with the ISO burnt to it in, boot from CD, choose install, half an hour or so later job done. I upgraded from XP though, and it just overwrote it, and put all the old windows files in a folder (which i butchered a few things i forgot to backup from later before deleting).
But yeah, thus far it's been very nice. Speedy, reliable, there have been some compatability issues, but this is to be expected given it's not a full and supported OS yet. However when i say some compatability issues i do mean just a few, the compatability mode is very effective.
Again, i'd highly recommend it.
).Tbh i found the installation pretty idiot proof, stick a CD with the ISO burnt to it in, boot from CD, choose install, half an hour or so later job done. I upgraded from XP though, and it just overwrote it, and put all the old windows files in a folder (which i butchered a few things i forgot to backup from later before deleting).
But yeah, thus far it's been very nice. Speedy, reliable, there have been some compatability issues, but this is to be expected given it's not a full and supported OS yet. However when i say some compatability issues i do mean just a few, the compatability mode is very effective.
Again, i'd highly recommend it.
Sorry for double post. Erm unless you've another laptop/desktop or can borrow a family members or something, i'd advise finishing your coursework first. While i can't foresee it taking more than an hour or two to get yourself set up enough to finish your course at least, you'd frankly be an idiot to risk it when all it requires is a few hours patience.
Besides, at the end of the day it's an OS. While it is a very good OS, it's really quite dull. It works essentially the same as vista but quicker. Nice upgrade, but nothing you can play with and get excited over
Besides, at the end of the day it's an OS. While it is a very good OS, it's really quite dull. It works essentially the same as vista but quicker. Nice upgrade, but nothing you can play with and get excited over
kool thanks friend.Elivercury said:Sorry for double post. Erm unless you've another laptop/desktop or can borrow a family members or something, i'd advise finishing your coursework first. While i can't foresee it taking more than an hour or two to get yourself set up enough to finish your course at least, you'd frankly be an idiot to risk it when all it requires is a few hours patience.
Besides, at the end of the day it's an OS. While it is a very good OS, it's really quite dull. It works essentially the same as vista but quicker. Nice upgrade, but nothing you can play with and get excited over
ANd yeah, you say that about an operating system, but to be honest for me this is my first real advanced use of a computer in a software/prograaming kinda sense...so i guess i am mostly excited about the sense of achievemwnt it will bring me, as the biggest com wiz in the skl at 15
Ok then escapists!
I have partitioned(at last) my hard drive to create a 20GB space for windows 7 (or close to 20GB)
I will start the windows 7 install as soon as it's done formatting
Wish me luck...
I have partitioned(at last) my hard drive to create a 20GB space for windows 7 (or close to 20GB)
I will start the windows 7 install as soon as it's done formatting
Wish me luck...
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.124640
I have asked for help. Please find it within you to help me...I am so close to having the RC ready!
I have asked for help. Please find it within you to help me...I am so close to having the RC ready!
Will there honestly be any point to do double booting?? I ordered my copy of Windows 7 and I'd like to know if I'll have to bother. Does it seem stable enough to just install and forget about Vista?
Also, is there a way to conserve the programs I currently have? My games and other software? Or will I have to reinstall it all again? (I've never had the opportunity to install a new OS before so pardon my ignorance.)
Also, is there a way to conserve the programs I currently have? My games and other software? Or will I have to reinstall it all again? (I've never had the opportunity to install a new OS before so pardon my ignorance.)
All installed games will be scrapped, same for the software. I personally keep a folder with a large number of install .exe files in it. Containing the essentials: Quicktime, Adobe flash/reader/shockwave, AVG, Zonealarm (although this doesn't work on windows 7 yet), Puzzle Pirates etc.xxcloud417xx said:
But yeah make sure you've backed up all your data and certainly make sure you've any large install files you've downloaded alone with product keys and stuff saved.
I PERSONALLY would judge the W7 RC pretty much ready to go out of the box. I've only had a couple of compatability issues that i couldn't solve with a bit of tweaking, and it's much quicker than vista and much more powerful than XP. Of course it depends on how reliant you are on certain programs and such, for example Daemon tools doesn't work with windows 7, so while this isn't an issue with me as I've only played with the program a few times, i can see how this could be a big issue for some people.
Although if you upgrade straight to W7 without reformatting then it will keep all your files in a new folder it makes called "Windows old", this will contain program files and my documents, incase you forgot to backup anything (i know i did). But i'd backup anyway for safety.
Hope this helps.
Why revert to Vista? I've used 7 (for a month during summer session at college on a laptop) and it's a delight, a massive improvement on Vista in every conceivable way. People at school asked me "how's Windows 7" and my stock answer was "like Vista but minus all the suck."jonnopon3000 said:
yeah thanks. I think I may just throw all my games and software on my 1TB External and run them off of that... then again will it slow down the programs to have to run them off an external?Elivercury said:
Another question: Will W7 be 64-bit?
Vista's not that bad. Its just different. Not the good kind though. The guy that your daughter invited to the dinner party. You wanna try to like him, to help your daughter(M$), but he just doesn't fit in