I'm more pleased than ever I bought the Collector's Edition of TW2. This is a game studio that deserves my money. Keep it up, CDPR, I love you all!
Witcher Studio Chief Vows No More DRM
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Even before that, when CD Projekt/gog.com were made to raise a price higher than they wanted in any region they added in extra stuff with the purchase to make up the price difference (or there abouts).Jaeger_CDN said:
It's a pity other digital distributors stay with regional pricing schemes.
Translation: the UI didn't look like a spreadsheet, so Q_QHammeroj said:
Ontopic: CDProjekt still on the ball, nothing new to see here. I was going to delay my purchase of TW2 since my computer can't handle it, but when I saw they had patched out the DRM AND added the retailer DLC I had a knee-jerk reaction and bought the collector's edition. Something right, they must be doing.
I think the ironic thing is that DRM was invented to stop piracy, and pirates took is as a bit of a personal challenge to take down DRM games to show that it's just a waste of time and a fun thing for them to play around with.
If we take away DRM and just lower the prices, people might actually go out and rent or buy these things instead of trying to find ways to circumvent the awful DRM. Plus, for some people who don't like being connected to the internet 24/7, like people who play games on the laptop, this would be a great boon to them.
If we take away DRM and just lower the prices, people might actually go out and rent or buy these things instead of trying to find ways to circumvent the awful DRM. Plus, for some people who don't like being connected to the internet 24/7, like people who play games on the laptop, this would be a great boon to them.
Lolno.rolfwesselius said:
Neverwinter is a PC RPG. Fallout is a PC RPG. Baulder's Gate is a PC RPG. The Elder Scrolls 1-3 are PC RPGS. The Witcher 2 is a console action adventure/RPG.
I love how you can't just admit it was a shitty game. Milk in the fridge expired? Consoles. Rain during a parade? Consoles. North Korea stockpiling warheads? Consoles.Hammeroj said:
I hope I'm wrong, I really really do but I don't see this working...
Unfortunately, enough people are going to pirate it anyway and this company will eventually go down. Once this company goes down, Pro-DRMers will look upon this and use this as their text book example for why DRM is always needed. Pirates are just putting bullets in the chamber for Pro-DRMers by pirating games like this.
I've become so jaded toward the gaming community at this point that DRM or no DRM, pirates who think that they're 100% justified in stealing games are going to do it no matter what (see Humble Bundle for further examples).
Unfortunately, enough people are going to pirate it anyway and this company will eventually go down. Once this company goes down, Pro-DRMers will look upon this and use this as their text book example for why DRM is always needed. Pirates are just putting bullets in the chamber for Pro-DRMers by pirating games like this.
I've become so jaded toward the gaming community at this point that DRM or no DRM, pirates who think that they're 100% justified in stealing games are going to do it no matter what (see Humble Bundle for further examples).
Woah, woah, woah. Even with DRM, TW2 was on torrent trackers from day 1, it makes no difference except inconvenience for the players.tippy2k2 said:
And CDPR actually did a better job protecting their game from piracy than Ubisoft have - AC:Revelations was leaked and cracked a week early, TW2 was only cracked after the official launch date. Yet Ubisoft's customers still have to deal with always online, while on TW2 DRM is completely non-existant.
CDP met their sales goals just the same. Hell, they also sold 400k copies of the first Witcher last year. Even at 10$ a pop that's not a bad piece of cash for something you released 4 years ago. The PC market is a way more hospitable place for independent developers than people think, the Humble Bundle you mentioned is just yet another testament to that.
I'm telling you right now that CDPR, doing their thing, will survive a lot longer than BioWare will under EA's heel. Jesus, Pandemic which was acquisitioned together with them is already 2 years gone.
In answer to your first question: Noooope.Iszfury said:
In answer to your second question: Yep.
In answer to the third:
-Skyrim
-Radiant Historia (for the DS)
-Avadon: The Black Fortress
-Deus Ex: Human Revolution
-Pretty much any game that doesn't reward you with softcore porn like you're a drooling imbecile
Skyrim was a great game, and I got a fair amount of enjoyment out of it, but the story and characterization failed to engross me as much as other RPGs do. It was well-developed, well-made, and a solid experience, but coming out of it, I felt a kind of apathetic stagnancy that TES games have always given me.hooksashands said:
As for Avadon, I haven't checked it out; I'll be sure to.
Deus Ex was an outstanding game, but I feel more strongly for TW2. Both are untouchable objectively though.
Your last comment I'll just take as a bout of irrational pathos.
I can understand disliking it based on preference, but "shitty?"
These guys are pretty much the modern champions of this industry. I need to purchase a second copy of Witcher 2, just to show how much I approve of this business model. Sadly, I feel like they are very alone in this endeavour to rid the gaming world of the bullshit that is DRM locked games that serve only to screw over the paying customer.
And for even mentioning the prospect of them signing with Ubisoft, you have ruined my day. Nah just kidding, but seriously that would break my heart (the last bastion of decent gaming bureaucracy and customer respect!)
And for even mentioning the prospect of them signing with Ubisoft, you have ruined my day. Nah just kidding, but seriously that would break my heart (the last bastion of decent gaming bureaucracy and customer respect!)
I'm getting really tired and frustrated with seeing this sentiment. I can name so very many games that handle mature subject worse than The Witcher 2, indeed I'd say the vast majority are worse. Hell your very own example of Skyrim as a better rpg has 'relationship' so vapid, pointless, and obviously added as an afterthought that I find myself more offended by their existence than any of the 3D nipples Witcher 2 might throw the players way. Meanwhile games like Mass Effect, for all their strength, genuinely *do* treat sex as some sort of reward: Cure this characters problems or even just put up with them enough and BAM, PG-13 sex scene even if it makes no sense in the context of either the character or world. Dragon Age meanwhile treats it as a reward as well except then you don't even have to listen. Skip all the dialogue but give enough gifts and you can get all the terribly rendered puppet-sex you want! In Fable the key to a characters heart is silly charades and farting in their faces... seriously...hooksashands said:
THOSE are alright, but somehow the Witcher 2 where mature content is an established part of the setting going back to 1992 with the release of the first book, that's softcore porn just because this European company has the audacity to show a nipple? How dare these two consenting adults in Witcher 2 with an existing relationship that goes beyond the games enjoy each others company? Bastards! How dare Geralt flirt and have flings with other consenting adults as well? That man-slut!
Only James Bond is allowed to get away with that, but then he's a movie star and there are no nipples being shown, so it's all alright.
Games are only for kids.
CDProjekt, once again showing people how business is fucking done. Treating customers with respect, and not resorting to stupid underhanded draconian business practices. One of my favorite devs only getting better, and their integrity is so damn admirable.
Funny thing is, I didn't mind the DRM in the physical copy of W2, as it was pretty much just a CD key check. And even with this rather minor DRM, they still managed to handle it the right way by removing it 2 weeks post launch. See something like that, while still pretty sucky I guess, seems perfectly fine to me.
After the first initial week or two, a month tops, you've kind of already sold close to initial projections *hopefully*. Game launches are sort of like the box office in a lot of ways, so removing the DRM after that initial launch time is acceptable. Yea it doesn't really stop pirate and the lot, but this was probably the best way of handling it if forced to use DRM.
Oh well, glad they gave the finger to it, and look forward to their 2013-2014 games. I see a bright future for these guys....if people support them that is.
GO BUY 360 WITCHER 2 NAO!!!!
Thank you for articulating what I had trouble putting into words myself.
Funny thing is, I didn't mind the DRM in the physical copy of W2, as it was pretty much just a CD key check. And even with this rather minor DRM, they still managed to handle it the right way by removing it 2 weeks post launch. See something like that, while still pretty sucky I guess, seems perfectly fine to me.
After the first initial week or two, a month tops, you've kind of already sold close to initial projections *hopefully*. Game launches are sort of like the box office in a lot of ways, so removing the DRM after that initial launch time is acceptable. Yea it doesn't really stop pirate and the lot, but this was probably the best way of handling it if forced to use DRM.
Oh well, glad they gave the finger to it, and look forward to their 2013-2014 games. I see a bright future for these guys....if people support them that is.
GO BUY 360 WITCHER 2 NAO!!!!
Annnd saved that for later; god I couldn't agree more with this. I too get so fucking tired of people constantly using the stupid sexual content as a god damn crutch for their argument when they always misconstrued it. Then some of these people have the audacity to turn around and praise some pitiful example of romance or relationship from another game and going "that's how it's done". Yea we get it, the damn sex cards were dumb.The Madman said:
Thank you for articulating what I had trouble putting into words myself.
