World's Biggest Gamerscore Breaks 500,000
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Who cares? It's human nature to want to achieve things, no matter how arbitrary. I for example want to improve my skills on guitar, or cut down my time for a Rubik's cube solve, are they important? Hell no. But it's nice to have some kind of milestone of progress to work for.Exterminas said:
Interessting, because from my view thoese examples are quite different. Being able to play a guitar well is accidental, because you might have some higher motive for it (e.g. being able to make nice music). While the Rubik's cube is indeed pretty similar to a game achievement, because anyone would struggle to find some higher use for that ability. So it is really just a "I want to see if I can do it"-thing.Jory said:
Where I disagree with you is in the idea that humans tend to urge for arbitrary things. Most stuff we desire sereves some kind of higher goal, be it as trivial as "I want to achieve happiness". (Or Eudaimonia *cough*)
I assume you don't understand the point of why he's doing this.Exterminas said:
You say gamerscore is meaningless... true, in the real world it has no meaning or use.
However to the individual can the same be said?
Can we say that these numbers are meaningless to him? Cause he's got 500,000 of them... so they must mean something.
Maybe he's doing it to brag? Maybe he's doing it to look cool? Maybe he's doing it because it's what he wants to do.
Maybe he wants to achieve something... gamerscore is a wonderful little thing that keeps you playing by rewarding you for doing so. Simple behavioural therapy.
But he's taken it to the next step, he wants to achieve something that almost no one is ever going to achieve.
Compare it to climbing Everest... not many people have climbed Everest... nor will doing so really have that much meaning to anyone other than yourself. Is he being ripped off cause he's giving money to companies that sell hiking gear for a happy feeling?
Don't knock someone for doing something that makes them happy.
Is it any "less" real than top tier armour in WoW or the level 1 challenge for Final Fantasy 12, or hell for a real golden oldie, the old all White Mage Challenge in FF1? Or beating a megaman game without getting hit?
Gamers have been giving themselves arbitrary goals for as long as their have been games, right down to "I'm going to checkmate you without ever moving my Queen." This guy's thing is to hunt down achievement points, same way a toy collector hunts down rare stuff and then never opens it and plays with it. It might not make sense to us, but its no weirder than any little personal challenge and he doesn't deserve to be mocked.
Gamers have been giving themselves arbitrary goals for as long as their have been games, right down to "I'm going to checkmate you without ever moving my Queen." This guy's thing is to hunt down achievement points, same way a toy collector hunts down rare stuff and then never opens it and plays with it. It might not make sense to us, but its no weirder than any little personal challenge and he doesn't deserve to be mocked.
Coincidentally, just after I got to the bit in the article about the Wallace and Gromit game, an ad for "Wallace and Gromits World of Invention" came on the tv. Peculiar.
Anyway, 500,000 gamerscore, that's....impressive, I suppose. There are likely a lot of easy achievements making up that 500k points. For every one "A Monument to All Your Sins", there's probably about 20-odd "Cool File Bro"'s in there....
Anyway, 500,000 gamerscore, that's....impressive, I suppose. There are likely a lot of easy achievements making up that 500k points. For every one "A Monument to All Your Sins", there's probably about 20-odd "Cool File Bro"'s in there....
I'm tempted to write up a lengthy justification for my opinion, but it's just not worth it. As with politics or religion, the people who disagree with me have alternate perceptions of reality. No amount of healthy, civil debate will change their or my views, so I may as well just blurt it out, unqualified: gamerscores, achievements, and trophies are fucking stupid. They're the dumbest new feature of this console generation after DLC.
Gamefly subscription.FargoDog said:
OT: I don't use GS as a bragging rights tool (although it can be used as that), rather I use it as a baseline for some harder aspects of a game. Sometimes achieve's force me to play outside my normal box which adds to replay value for some games.
I didn't intent to knock on something. If anything I intended to make a not how strange achievements of any kind are, if you take one step backwards.GamesB2 said:
Also I think that you mix of two seperate points in you post. One begin "This is noteable, because noone has done it before" on which I agree to a certain degree, because the difference between any real achievement and a banality is questionable. Climbing the Mount Everest, even as the first one, is certainly not an Achievement to anyone. It offers no gain to anyone, consumes resources at best, people's lifes at worst. So why should this be an Achievement? So my intention was more to point out that what is an Achievement to you is dependend more on your believe and the one of those around you, than on anything else. Especially on a score.
On could even derive the point that achieving one achievement is as much an achievement as achieving a thousand one, as long as you find enough people who think that way.
And "It is notable, because it makes him happy.", which is kind of a strange point to me, when it comes to the discussion attached to a News Post. I ate a piece of cammombert this morning, which made me happy. But I don't expect the world to take notification of that.
It seems like a waste of time and money to me... think about all the games he's paid for that he didn't want just so he could get gamerscore... I would assume that he'd just get to the point where he doesn't even enjoy playing games anymore...
[This was posted in wrong thread - the profit of multiple tabs]
And just to make it fit the thread: I hope that this guy will try to complete Yahtzee's Duke Nukem Forever achievements.
And just to make it fit the thread: I hope that this guy will try to complete Yahtzee's Duke Nukem Forever achievements.