A protagonist is not 'the good guy', he is the main guy. In a game, he must be playable or he isn't the protagonist.LarenzoAOG said:I was playing Just Cause 2 with some buddies and we came to the conclusion that the game was about a man who is sent into a semi-developed country to destabalize its infrastructure and murder everybody, and we were meant to cheer for this guy.
Sure there is a bunch of expository bullshit, about how the government is corrupt and it opresses everybody, but we really only have the word of about 3 unimportant charecters and the leaders of several terrorist cells. Does that really justify murdering everybody and destroying their water towers and gas stations?
So who do you think is the worst protagonist ever in terms of how little good they do?
Kratos maybe? He's a dick.
Or maybe you stayed true to the title of inFAMOUS with evil Cole.
Discuss.
EDIT: The protagonist can be playable, non-playable, silent, whatever, as long as they are the "good guy" and are terrible at being the "good guy".
Not to mention the murders it's caused (John Lennon's being the big one).Murais said:Thank you. First thing that popped into my head the exact moment I saw this thread. Salinger needs to be resurrected and killed again for that monstrosity of a book. Classic my ass.triggrhappy94 said:Holden Caufeild.
That annoying little ***** needs to shut up and just go home.
I think you can customizing him...but it makes you wonder for such an awsome game the default is the most generic lookig blandest tough guy as the face of the seriesTrezu said:Shepard why? HE LOOKS LIKE A PINEAPPLE with Short Hair
Also hes got like One Hairstyle i wanna have a Male Shepard with a Afro
I disagree with Starkiller being worse than Kratos. I have beaten both games of TFU, but I played the first level of God of War 3 and got tired of it. Kratos was an evil prick, purposely doing harm to those he supposedly loved, then, when he realized what he had done, killed the only other people that acknowledged his existence.Ben Agar said:Kratos, sociopathic prick, just not at all likable.
So many people say master chief and I agree he's really just the most forgettable game protagonist ever.
But the worst even worse than Kratos? Fucking Galen Starkiller, or as I like to call him fuckingfanboypanderingrgary-stu esquire.
Pokemon trainers. Animal fighting, parent neglect, child abuse/slavery. Theft, murder, just about all the big things.jawakiller said:No, Link wins (ocarina of time). This little punk ass kid runs around vandalizing private property, breaking and entering, trespassing, theft, larceny, first and second degree homicide (and I think there is some resisting arrest), substance abuse and commits treason... Wow, even Kratos can't claim all of those charges.emeraldrafael said:Mario.
Genocidal freak who just leaves the one girl in the dust to save the one that wants nothing to do with him.
Totally. Then again, everything about the framing narrative in those games just sucks. It's like they created these cool semi-historical thrillers and then decided to junk them up with a bunch of bland nonsense. Maybe if Desmond had a personality it would have been better, or hell, even have the "bleeding effect" from the Animus force him to take on the personality traits of his ancestors after prolonged revisiting of their memories. Even the elusive Subject 16 has more personality than Desmond.minispike47 said:Desmond Miles. He is so bland and has no personality
Oh my goodness, thank you. I loved that game, but Van was incredibly irritating, especially when put in comparison with the other main characters. *coughbalthiercough*SnootyEnglishman said:Vaan from FFXII. He had NOTHING to do with the main story at all. All he did was say "I wanna be a sky pirate" every 5 minutes.
Yeah, I guess Oblivion would be a better example of all the things I complained about in Dragon Age: the main character can do anything they please and has no characterization, and they have no connection to the events of the story other than just being a really trust worthy person who the Septims rely on. Plus they usually only say just Yes or No, like in Fable.Vault101 said:its been a while since I played but I remember there being ALOT of dialouge options (as oposed to say fallout 3 or Mass effect, (although thats helped by being voiced, unless your playing male default shepard compared to the rest of the cast he's blander than plain white rice and yet hes also the face of the series...*sigh*)Ridley the Violator said:Drummie666-I was going to respond to your post, but then I stopped in the middle of typing, froze up, and began to cry.
Then I talked to myself for ten minutes.
For me, worst protagonist is the Warden from Dragon Age. No matter who you play as the lines you're given are almost always incredibly bland and personality-less, at least when you're trying to do the serious role playing. The subplot resolutions for the origins are laughably executed and you can barely keep track of how you've decided to act because the companion approval system is utterly useless. And of course, worst of all, the Warden is completely irrelevant to all the story. If you took him/her out you could easily have Alistair take their place and it would be exactly the same story.
I supose the blandess of the warden is subjective but I liked my characher (Elf who goes around and massecres an enitre caslte in her wedding dress, on her wedding day, now thats badass)
anyway Dragon age is a million times better for role playing than Oblivion (in fact Id say its a million times better than oblivion...there I said it) there are NO dialogue options, you are empty space at least in DA your a charachter, In Oblivion your a walking camera, it really killed the game for me
Have you played God of War 3? If not, I'll put it in a spoiler bubble.James Raynor said:He's just not a good hero, there's a difference.Blueruler182 said:Kratos is a dick? Kratos murdered EVERYTHING. For vengeance. I'm sorry, there is little doubt as to who's the worst protagonist.