Worst BioWare companions

[murrayb67]

I want to say Haer'Dalis, but I sort of like him. He's kind of the character you'd get from That Guy in your tabletop group who makes a character that clearly doesn't fit.

To be fair he is a teifling from the planes and a Doomgaurd (the guys who believe total entropy is inevitable and a good thing) which is in lore so it makes sense for him to be weird and not fit. It's kinda dickish that he knows Yoshimo is lying and doesn't like him but doesn't mention this to you at all though I guess that dose make sense aswell since he seems to be in it for the ride and doesn't care if everyone dies.
Fuck him for being able to break the class rules (2 points in short swords) when my character can't though! Companions should not be outclassing the PC.

Good point, and in that spirit fuck Edwin for the same reasons. That amulet of his was pure cheese.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

more against how the romance system works in that game. It gets super awkward when you're simply just trying to get your companions' approval

That's the writers lack of understanding of basic human interactions.

OT; Kaiden in ME1, Carth in Knights of the Old Republic; Same voice actor, he just doesn't draw me in.

Jacob (Mass Effect) Let's say you romance him in 2. In 3 he has hooked up with someone else (gets her pregnant too) and he get's his panties in a wad if you are involved with someone else.

Doc (The Old Republic) Jedi Knight healer companion. He has one tool in his toolbox, and it's a douche. He tries to play bravado, but he comes off as annoying.

Alistair (Dragon Age Origins) Hollier than thou and full of himself.

 

[Nomanslander]

That one muscle bond Hispanic dude from Mass Effect's 3rd game. I can't even remember his name and don't feel curious enough to google it.

If that isn't a sign of a bad character, i don't know what is.

As for why I feel that way? Well... what can I say, I know Bioware isn't afraid to make "unlikable" characters in their games, all for the sake of being real with them, to show real human traits and emotions for the better or worse all in the name of artistic license. Javik being so blatantly shrewd and condescending toward other species is a prime example. Going so far as to even shock Liara in how he can be so blatantly so ("they ate flies," don't tell me that line didn't piss off a lot of Mordon fans). But as for the character whose name escapes me, I think they went too far in making him unlikable, and oh so bland. A big burly jock like character, that's as cocky as he is thick headed, that shows hardly any redeeming qualities.

I mean... I don't want criticize Bioware in their 3rd game, considering how they cut down the number of team makes from the 2nd game, and gave us too many questionable characters that made us uncertain how to feel about them. But one or two "likable" new characters would have been somewhat welcoming in ME3.

:/

 

[woodsymoments]

Carth from Knights of the Old Republic. For everyone who found Kaiden to be a bit whiny, I give you Carth - moaning his way across the galaxy and dragging everyone down by complaining about all of his problems. Nobody cares, Carth.

This a hundred times this. I actually got the game on pc just to get the mod to be able to kill Carth at Malachor V.

 

[Netrigan]

Miranda - Although pretty legit in terms of changing over to the good side, she's Miss Perfect with an attitude. Although pretty, useful, and capable of owning anyone, she's pretty standard and not exactly interesting to the point of making her memorable. All she's really known for in my book is being cold, beautiful, and caring on the inside if she's close enough to you. Only good part about her was the backstory in Mass Effect 2 during her loyalty mission giving us more insight on her character. Outside of that, she's got nothing going unless you romance her... which isn't even romantic since it's a one night stand vibe to it. In Mass Effect 3, it literally becomes that with her lol. Nothing else romantic unless you engage with her in the DLC Citedal.

I found she got more interesting over time, as being genetically engineered to be perfect had left her with a bit of a complex... and that ultimately spun into a reasonably good loyalty mission. She's no where near as interesting a character as the game wants her to be, but she (like Vega) have more going on beneath the surface to slightly over-come the initial meh reaction.

 

[Breakdown]

In my current playthrough of DA Origins Alistair has stopped speaking to me after I murdered that kid. It has led to an unpleasant atmosphere at the campsite, which is only going to get worse once I get my hands on the Urn of Andraste.

 

[J Tyran]

Sten from Dragon Age Origins. Early in the game, I decided to take him along on a trip to Denerim, and get ambushed on the way. The first fight he's in, and Sten goes down pretty much immediately. When I finally get to Denerim, he starts going on about how I'm a rubbish Grey Warden. I wish I'd left him in the cage for the Darkspawn.

Gotta admit this made me laugh, Sten does get better though if you argue with him and get his approval up.

My answer to the OP is Atton, they took the slightly aggravating Carth and made him a whiny self pitying fool.

 

[Knight Captain Kerr]

Velanna in Dragon Age: Awakening is my most hated. I heard they were originally thinking of having her instead of Anders in Dragon Age 2, thank god that didn't happen. Mind you Anders is very different in 2, in Awakening he even says the Circle going independent is a terrible idea, changing as a person is fine but they should have had that character development in the game and not just have it all as merging with Justice off-screen, have him in Act 1 be more like his Awakening self. Anyway, back to Velanna. She murders innocents without remorse just because they're human, is horribly racist towards humans, hates city elves, really anyone who isn't Dalish. People have compared her to Morrigan but that's not really true, for one thing Morrigan's funny but also when you get to know Morrigan you find she isn't as heartless as she originally comes across, she actually has some depth to her and grows as a character, Velanna on the other hand just hates anyone who isn't Dalish.

 

[laggyteabag]

Sten from Dragon Age Origins. Early in the game, I decided to take him along on a trip to Denerim, and get ambushed on the way. The first fight he's in, and Sten goes down pretty much immediately. When I finally get to Denerim, he starts going on about how I'm a rubbish Grey Warden. I wish I'd left him in the cage for the Darkspawn.

This is pretty much exactly the same kind of thing that happens when I decide that I want to gear up my 3 main companions (Alistair, Wynne and Leliana) and then completely ignore the rest of them. In my 3 or 4 playthroughs of Origins, I don't think that I have ever put Sten, Zevran, Oghren, or the Dog in my active party by choice. As a result, when it came to the "DEFEND DENERIM FROM THE DARKSPAWN!" quest, and you were forced to play as the characters that you had left behind, they were super low leveled, and had very little in the form of good gear. Oh the look on my face must've been astounding.

 

[The Random Critic]

Sten from Dragon Age Origins. Early in the game, I decided to take him along on a trip to Denerim, and get ambushed on the way. The first fight he's in, and Sten goes down pretty much immediately. When I finally get to Denerim, he starts going on about how I'm a rubbish Grey Warden. I wish I'd left him in the cage for the Darkspawn.

This is pretty much exactly the same kind of thing that happens when I decide that I want to gear up my 3 main companions (Alistair, Wynne and Leliana) and then completely ignore the rest of them. In my 3 or 4 playthroughs of Origins, I don't think that I have ever put Sten, Zevran, Oghren, or the Dog in my active party by choice. As a result, when it came to the "DEFEND DENERIM FROM THE DARKSPAWN!" quest, and you were forced to play as the characters that you had left behind, they were super low leveled, and had very little in the form of good gear. Oh the look on my face must've been astounding.

The level of the companion is scaled to your character level, one level below your character level I believe.

Do note that I haven't beaten DA:O even till now, I went though all the story and side stuff up until the recruitment of Logan. (and I did it three times, I may add) I can only tell this by look at my party equip when I try to equip some of the companion I don't use often with left over junk loots I picked up.

Anyway back on topic, while I do find the concept of Ander to be a fantastic idea. The character arc itself is rushed, mostly due to the fact that the game is rushed.

Zevran was pretty boring too in terms of concept, BG did it much better. There is also your siblings in Dragon age 2, since the interest of them scale proportionally to the interest of the main character. While Bioware can write side character very well, it still remains that the main character itself, unless role-played, isn't all that particularly interesting on paper. Which in truth is something Bioware itself attempt to remedy though Dragon Age 2.

Spoiler

But I hate EA.

 

[laggyteabag]

Sten from Dragon Age Origins. Early in the game, I decided to take him along on a trip to Denerim, and get ambushed on the way. The first fight he's in, and Sten goes down pretty much immediately. When I finally get to Denerim, he starts going on about how I'm a rubbish Grey Warden. I wish I'd left him in the cage for the Darkspawn.

This is pretty much exactly the same kind of thing that happens when I decide that I want to gear up my 3 main companions (Alistair, Wynne and Leliana) and then completely ignore the rest of them. In my 3 or 4 playthroughs of Origins, I don't think that I have ever put Sten, Zevran, Oghren, or the Dog in my active party by choice. As a result, when it came to the "DEFEND DENERIM FROM THE DARKSPAWN!" quest, and you were forced to play as the characters that you had left behind, they were super low leveled, and had very little in the form of good gear. Oh the look on my face must've been astounding.

The level of the companion is scaled to your character level, one level below your character level I believe.

Do note that I haven't beaten DA:O even till now, I went though all the story and side stuff up until the recruitment of Logan. (and I did it three times, I may add) I can only tell this by look at my party equip when I try to equip some of the companion I don't use often with left over junk loots I picked up.

Yeah, I think I ended up spending more time in the menu spending skill points than I did actually fighting. Next time around though, everybody got the hand me down gear.

 

[Ticklefist]

Corso Riggs from SWTOR. He hit on me and I tortured him for it. Kissing every dude that would let me.

 

[pearcinator]

Carth

Quit whining you little *****. I don't care about your tragic history and why you have trust issues, just shut up already! I can't even kill you, you just run off like the little wuss you are!

Kaiden

Well, you have the same voice actor as Carth, you started off already bad. Add to that you were just plain boring. Nobody liked talking to you Kaiden so that's why you were disintegrated with the nuke on Virmire.

Jacob

You were boring and sounded dumb.

Zevran

I don't trust this dude. You talk all polite but it comes off like an act and you'll backstab me any chance you get. Add to the fact that you always flirt with me even though I don't bend that way. Should have killed you on the battlefield.


I've only played Jade Empire once and I pretty much kept the same party members throughout. Didn't really talk to them much. I haven't played Dragon Age 2 or Bulders Gate so I can't comment on them. I didn't have any issues with ME3 or most of ME2 party members though so I say Mass Effect has the best companions.

 

[MrFalconfly]

I even hated Alistair. I've got the feeling he was supposed to be the funny one, but I don't know on what planet he would be considered funny. Smarmy git.

Alistair is not supposed to be funny: he's supposed to be a very insecure lad who hides his crippling anxieties behind a facade of cheap jokes.

But he doesn't give off the demeanour of an insecure lad.

He just gives off the demeanour of some non-committed arse, reciting a manuscript.

 

[Fdzzaigl]

Agreed with the OP's post. Except I hate Kaidan more, at least I can kill him off in the first game though.

Samara just leaves me more or less impartial, as did Vega and Jacob.

In KOTOR I didn't really dislike any of the characters to be honest. It just took a while to get into the story of some of them, like Jolee Bindo.

In Jade Empire most of the characters left me more of less impartial, except the girl with the demon (don't remember the name), liked her.

..

Overall, I don't really *hate* any of their characters because I could usually just leave them out of my party if they didn't interest me much.

The only one I really disliked was Anders in DA2. Because I needed him through much of my playthrough and because he was just such a boring drab compared to his appearance in Awakening.

 

[Auron225]

I almost never use Kaidan or Ashley when I play. Kaidan just seems really....dull and Ashely kind of annoys me. The low grade racism is only part of it, frankly. (which is why I usually let her die when given the choice). I usually use Liara, Wrex or Tali for the missons and let the humans babysit the Normandy.

I'd be the same. Kaidan never has anything interesting to say or contribute, and Ashley seems to just be there to second-guess every decision I make so long as it involves trusting any non-human even slightly. When it came to Virmire, it was a difficult choice but not for the intended reason; "Aww, I can only get rid of one of them?"

OT: I didn't know Jack was so unpopular - I thought she was hilarious (seriously, bring her on Mirandas loyalty mission), and she has an good backstory.

I'm personally not a fan of James Vega in the least. He's just annoying - he never seems to have much banter with any of the rest of the crew, except him trying to out-cool Garrus once which was a plan doomed to fail. It's hard to tell whether I'd take Kaidan over him - I mean, Kaidan has all the charisma of a cardboard cutout of himself but I dont actively dislike him.

 

[spartandude]

OT: I didn't know Jack was so unpopular

Me neither, she was one of my favorite characters in Mass Effect and really the only reason i would consider putting up with male sheps voice acting.

 

[G00N3R7883]

Sten.

Out of 3 playthroughs, I've left him to die in Lothering twice, but my other playthrough was designed so that my main party would consist of the companions I'd mostly ignored first time around. I like talking to companions between missions, but every time I asked Sten a question, his response would be either "yes", or "no". He is just so boring.

I don't like him, and I don't hate him either. Its actually far worse than that - I simply don't care about him at all.

Also, dishonourable mentions for the ME2 versions (they are less annoying in ME3) of
- Jack. Didn't like her "outfit", and her attitude basically screamed "leave me alone", so I did.
- Grunt. Telling everyone you meet that you are pure Krogan does not make you a badass like Wrex.

 

[Cyberstrike_v1legacy]

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic HK-47

Jade Empire Henpecked Hou and Sky

 

[Joseph Harrison]

I think BioWare writes some of the best characters in Western RPG's and some of the reasons people are giving for certain characters to be the "WORST CHARS EVAR" is basically just, "I don't like them for reasons and therefore they're bad". There are plenty of characters that I dislike but I wouldn't call them the worst characters ever. I guess it's to be expected, there's always so much negativity in threads about Bioware games.

KOTOR: I was very very young when I first played KOTOR so my opinions are a bit muddy. I guess I never really clicked with T3-M4 or Jolee Bindo because you recruited him so late in game. I also found Juhani straight up ugly so I never liked her.

Mass Effect: Usually, I rarely dislike a character, just oftentimes a character really won't click with me. For example, Kaidan, Thane, Jack (at first), Legion. Sometimes I would play and I would find myself really liking one of them for a playthrough only to play again and not care about them anymore. For some reason though, I've always disliked EDI as a squad member, maybe it's cuz I dislike robot characters hence me not giving a single fuck when Legion died but damn I just really think EDI is a waste of a squad slot, they definitely should have chosen someone else.

Dragon Age: Same goes for Dragon Age where I rarely straight up dislike characters, but I can't say I've cared much for Wynne or Oghren although I used Oghren more on my most recent playthrough and instead of being a boisterous dumb drunk he seems to also be a tortured character, and that's a depth I'd never seen before,, and I appreciate. I've never liked Fenris because he's just so Final Fantasy and I don't wanna sound like an MRA but he REEEEALLY seemed to be blatantly pandering to the female fans of DA and he just seems so out of place in the game, I dunno, call me crazy.