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I didn't like Merril or Fenris from Dragon Age 2, which is odd because Merril is that adorable, secret pervert character type that I just can't help but like. Fenris, I just didn't like. He wasn't a pleasant character and his attempts at humanisation (read: him being not so above the party's snark and bumbling stupidity, which were... kind of the whole points of the games: to show how regular people from different walks of life break down when faced with the task of heroism) were just as annoying and unfunny.

Everyone else was fine, even if they were a little boring.

I also didn't like Morrigan from Origins very much. I get the whole Darwinism angle that was intended the give the player an alien perspective on the moral situations, but she was just such an irredeemable bastard that I couldn't sympathise with her. I didn't think she was boring or just a bad character, but just one that was clumsily written and unlikable. From the point where you criticises you for saving the mages, I'd always refer to her as "harpic shrew" in my head to metaphorically one-up her constant complaints.

I did start to like her a bit more as the game went on and her character went from "snarky swamp monster wearing two scarves and a miniskirt" to "well written Stepford Snarker who is actually pretty funny", but by then I'd stopped bringing her to missions and advancing her story for fear of driving the rest of the party off or losing Approval from them, or God forbid forcing an inconvenient story death.
 

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I can't think of many Bioware companions that I straight up hated; most had some redeeming quality at some point in the story. Even controversial characters like Anders had some interesting themes in emphasizing the deterioration that good intentions can lead to.

I had my issues with Morrigan I suppose. Mainly because I wanted to appreciate the pragmatism of the character, but thought her moral ambiguity was ruined by her constant need to show spite and disapproval just for the sake of it.
 

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Quinn from TOR sith warrior story. hes an ass and an imperial todie and not even the good kind.

other then him though no one else really annoys me as merril being really stupid is kinda counter balanced by the fact that shes voiced by Eve Myles and that makes me always romance her:)
 

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Liara is a goddamn Joss Whedon character that Bioware ejaculated onto their typewriters and I hate her, because her entire character arc involves her being a Shepard fangirl and a whiny ***** when she isn't the first person to figure something out.

Mission Vao is a pain in the ass 14 year old "hacker" stereotype played by one of my most hated voice actors, Catherine Taber.

Anders is just plain insane.

Jacob manages to be both boring and a bit racist. Yeah, the only Black guy in the game is also the only one who cheats on his Shepard and knocks up another woman. And then wants to name his baby after her. Way to go, Bioware.
 

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Only Bioware games I've actually played are DA: Origins and the Mass Effect trilogy.
Gotta say, I pretty much hated every companion in Dragon Age Origins that wasn't Allistair. Can't really say I hated any of the Mass Effect companions though, 'cept for maybe James Vega at the very beginning, but eventually he grew on me.
 

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/everyone/ in dragon age 2 sans Aveline

and Jacob from Mass Effect(s), even Kaiden is slightly more interesting than Jacob
Aw, you don't like Varric? D=

... But yeah. Aveline and Varrick are the only two actually good characters in the bunch. The others range from passable to annoying. What's sad about DA2 to me is that the seeds of a great game are there, it just needed more Dev time. Also, Varrick needed to do more story trolling. If you didn't laugh during his fantasy version of the Bartrand encounter, you have no soul :p

From Origins: ... er... not gonna get a lot of fans with this one... Sten. What ticks me off about Sten is that he's almost impossible to talk to without getting disapproval, unless you've specifically looked it up. Also, he doesn't seem to get that getting an army is NECESSARY to kill the archdemon.

Not the worst character Bioware's ever produced, mind, just the worst companion in Origins. Imo. The worst Bioware's given us though...

From TOR: Lieutenant Pierce. The only reason he exists is to give the Sith Warrior a Ranged Tank companion. If bioware has created a more boring, lifeless companion I have never seen them.
 

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Liara
If she had merely been one companion among the rest, but nope: they had to push very hard the notion that she was Shep's true wooove, which made interacting with her very creepy. You basically get an intellectually precocious, emotionally stunted teenagers who go all schoolgirl crush on your protagonist despite clearly lacking the maturity for an intimate relationship who follows you like a puppy and throw very unsubtle come-ons at Shep, and... Ewww
Just...
Ewww...

Ashley
To make things short, her behavior during ME1 convinced me that letting Shep mercy-fuck Kaidan was preferable to allowing her self-centered, bigoted, racist, chip-shouldering self to survive Virmire

Carver
Here I'm mostly annoyed by how underused this character is: you lose him after Act 1 and he comes back only in short burst during the DLCs and each act finale which doesn't give him the room to develop as a character, which is too bad because I sympathized quite a lot with the Hawke black sheep.
Also, I would have loved to see his career in the Wardens: considering his crushing inferiority complex, meeting my overpowered, world-saving, Arl-ruling battlemage Warden would have been quite a sight: " So you've been feeling trapped in your magic-wielding elder sibling's shadow for all your life heh, boy? Well, you're in luck: Meet your new boss [http://i.imgur.com/I9naElG.png]" (I mean, by the end of Awakening, Origins' protagonist Suefication is so thorough that comedy is pretty much the only way to use the character anymore)

special mention; Fenris
It's a minor thing, but his max rivalry quote says "Fenris has agreed to disagree" yet it's much easier for a pro-mage Hawke to increase friendship than rivalry because rivalry often demands acting like a huge jerk toward him: respectfully disagreeing with him, showing that yes, you understand where he comes from and why he distrusts mages so much but you decided nonetheless to follow a different path and drag him along with it despite his numerous misgivings? It barely increases his rivalry bar leading to a situation where you may end up being forced to kill him during the finale while treating like shit through the game will max his rivalry and allow him to survive. Rival-Fenris relationship with Hawke is not one of mutually earned respect between ideological oponnants: it's just the story of a poor sod who went from one abusive relationship with his Tevinter owner to another one with his Kirkwaller patron. Way to screw up your writting Bioware.
 

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Gotta say, I pretty much hated every companion in Dragon Age Origins that wasn't Allistair.
Oh yeah, I absolutely hated everyone in Dragon Age: Origins. I even hated Alistair. I've got the feeling he was supposed to be the funny one, but I don't know on what planet he would be considered funny. Smarmy git.

Looking back, I don't know how I ever finished DA:O. Later, I tried to get into it again, but I just couldn't...
 

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Regarding Samera
People have been confusing "likable" characterization with good characterization since the first shallow douchebag found out they could steal other people's quotes.

Samera is not a charming personality, nor is she meant to be an entirely sympathetic figure. The unquestioning devotion that she pays her cause in spite of it's extremist philosophy and her reasons for doing so are what maker her interesting and tragic. Samera has surrendered her humanity, anything she may hold precious for herself, on the alter of duty because she believes herself to have failed her children; she is escaping from her guilt.

The mistrust she places in her emotions is compounded by the fact she can't help but feel some pride in Morinth's boundless intelligence and tenacity. The fact that they look exactly alike is about more than plot convenience; Morinth is what Sameria is afraid she would be without her code.

The great irony is that motherhood does what all the villains in the galaxy could never do; it leaves the mighty warrior defeated and pathetic; so dependent and beholden to a draconian ideal that she is prepared to take her own life to reconcile the internal conflict it creates.

Samera, perhaps without realizing it, has failed her children once again.

Regarding Anders
I agree, but I never found Anders interesting. In Awakening, Anders was basically just Alistair lite. Nothing about Anders ever surprised me and he was so fucking preoccupied with comedic relief that he refused to ever take a stand on anything; I couldn't decide if he was a sociopath or just a high functioning autistic.

In 2, he's a straw man on a soap box, not much else to say. His grievance with the Templars is never used to make him stand out, he just reacts the same way you would expect any mage to reacts, with the exception to when he commits an act of terrorism, which might have afforded him some individuality had it not taken place at the end of the fucking game.

Regarding Fenris
I consider Fenris to be among the better DA:2 party members. He's by no means up to Bioware's usual standard, but he at least demonstrates a basic understanding of characterization on the part of his creators. Fenris at least HAS a character, which is more than I can say for some of the other party members.

Who do I think are the worst Bioware companions? Well...

Jacob
Let me be clear; I do not hate Jacob, because there is nothing to hate. The only thing of significance about him is that he is basically a nice guy. Never once did he display any real imperfections or insecurities, and his sheer decency is almost cartoonish.

How is it, that in a world populated by so many morally ambiguous situations, that Jacob has managed to have the most clean and heroic career in the world? For a while, I thought maybe he would turn out to be an actor hired by Cerberus to give them a good image... oh wait.

Zaed (I don't care enough to google his name)
I'm struggling to find something interesting to say here, because bad characters are one of the hardest things to write about; you're describing the lack of something rather than the presence of something. Zaed is essentially just the mirror image of Jacob; kind of an all around violent prick for no reason. Weird because Bioware have previously displayed a great ability for giving pricks good reasons to be violent (See: Subject Zero).

Bethany
Consider this an honorary position for a bunch of characters, because boy did the DA:2 roster suck shit. It's only for the sake of elegance that I've limited myself to one DA:2 character for this list, that and because I suspect that the writing for DA:2's characters was left in the hands of the erotic fan-fiction community.

So, Bethany; I would have put Carver on this list just as easily were it not for the fact that he was kind of a prick, and thus had better characterization than his sister. Bethany is basically a nice person and she is your sister. You love her because we say you do.

Once again, basic decency is our only character trait; we have no great strength's, no great weaknesses, we don't even have those stupid little "charming (i.e: agonizing) quirks" that Bioware thought could pass for characterization with the rest of the companions.

The entire Hawke family encapsulate the game's ineptitude with characterization; "Here are a bunch of people you know nothing about, but they're you're family, so you love them". The sharp contrast between how Hawke feels about his/her family and how the player feels creates a disconnect from the character right off the bat, which is only further compounded by the fact that players of Origins will already have a character they identify as themselves.

EDIT: Quick question; Varric is apparently a very popular companion among the fans, but I've never found him to be particularly appealing. Anyone feel like explaining why he's so great?
 

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Alistair from DA:O

His voice actor just sounds so non-committed that I wouldn't be surprised that he literally phoned it in.
 

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Cyberstrike said:
Mass Effect Kaiden and Tali
Mass Effect 2 Jacob and Thane
Basically this, I haven't played enough of Mass Effect 3 to decide who I hate.
I never found Kaiden to be interesting at all so he was the sacrifice on virmire. Tali, sorry but I'm siding with the geth, they bring more to the table and Legion was more interesting anyway. I don't get what people have against Ashley, she's only racist towards aliens, not people.
 

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I even hated Alistair. I've got the feeling he was supposed to be the funny one, but I don't know on what planet he would be considered funny. Smarmy git.

Alistair is not supposed to be funny: he's supposed to be a very insecure lad who hides his crippling anxieties behind a facade of cheap jokes.
 

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My most hated Bioware companion is Mission Vao, you know. As you probably know shes just so naive and incompetent, you know. It also doesn't help, you know, that she is also so god damn arrogant about her hacking skills, you know. But what i hate about her most is her speech, you know. There are only so many times a person can say "you know" in one conversation before i want to throw them out of the airlock, into the sun while force lightening them to death.... you know.
 

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I had to think about this; if a companion in BW bugs me, I just don't take them with me as squaddies, so they don't leave much of an impact. Also, even though some of them I may not like as characters, I admire their writing, or what the creators were trying to do. 'Great character, just not my cup of tea'. Leliana is a prime example of this. Good attempt at making a religious, sweet, feminine character who could fight tooth and nail for what she believed in. Just not my thing. Same for ME1's Ashley.

This habit of leaving character that don't click with me back at base explains why I don't particularly dislike ME2's Jacob. I admired the attempt at making an ordinary soldier character, but he just didn't grab me, so I always left him behind. From the sound of it, I'm glad this is the one character in all of BW games I played whose romance I never bothered to complete.

I'd have liked them to tone ME2's Jack way the hell down, but ME3 Jack makes up for it...

The point where it all breaks down is DA2, IMO. I actually love that game and played it through a stupid number of times, but I love it for what I felt they were trying to achieve, not for what their insane deadlines forced them to shit out. I thought it was a great idea to have a hero who's not saving the world, just trying to get ahead in it. But then they used it as an excuse to copy paste the entire game's locations twenty times. Gah, I can run those dungeons blindfold by now. I loved what they were obviously trying to do with the characters, but too many of their storylines were nothing but a hot mess. Prize goes to Merril. She's a great character in concept, a great VA, a great squaddie to take along once you mod her skill line so she's actually useful in a fight, not just to drop lovely little one liners. But her 'story' (I use quotes in utter contempt here) feels like an EA exec greenstamped a few preliminary paragraphs dribbled out by a harried writer and passed it to the devs without once engaging his or her brain. It's nonsense from start to finish, stuffed with plotholes, contrivances, 180s in characterisation, and nonsensical decisions.

Aveline and Varric show that the writers and the game was initially committed to great, diverse, original, strong characters and story arcs. You can feel it during Chapter 1 for every character - even Anders and Fenris have moments where they show different facets to their character. But either the writers don't bother to even the tone in the following chapters, or they just throw a storyline out and run away before the fridge moment sets in. Anders is a prime example. I would have preferred if they'd kept Awakening's Anders, honestly, but I give them props for taking big chances with the character and -



- turning him into a terrorist. That character arc makes sense - I don't like it, but it makes sense, especially if you rival him, and you get a better feel for how his conflict between healer and no-holds-barred-freedom-bent-possessed-lunatic is tearing him apart. However, the target for his piss-and-dragonspit bomb is THE CHANTRY? Why not an orphanage, or a retirement home, or a kitten refuge??

"Don't you see this will make it worse for all mages?" my Hawke very reasonably points out against a backdrop of smoking ruins (while Meredith stands around like a ninny for no conceivable reason).

"We were all dead anyway, now or later, what does it matter," answers Anders.

"Well then why didn't you put the bomb beneath the Gallows, in the tunnels that you know so well? You'd have attacked the templars directly, possibly taken out their loony-tunes Knight Commander as a huge fat bonus, and any mage who survived would have been pitied rather than lynched, or at least would have had a better chance of making it out of Kirkwall since the templars were destroyed. Woudln't that have been a more logical target? Since mages survival and freedom has suddenly dropped to the bottom of your to-do list anyway."

"Oh, damn, you're right!" exclaims Anders. "Why didn't you say anything back when you saw me plant the mysterious payload in the chantry, rather than accept my evasive and ominous explanations?"

"I tried to," growls Hawke, "but I didn't have that conversation option. I went twenty times around the Chantry trying to find what any first-grade chemistry student would know is a bomb, but it must have been behind one of the painted-on doors. Even telling Cullen about it can't get it found for some daft reason. At least if you'd planted the bomb beneath the Gallows, I would have assumed you were aiming something at the templars and not asked as many questions. In addition, you'd have had a better story reason not to tell me, even if I'm totally pro-mage and anti-chantry, since it would have possibly endangered my sibling as well. That attack is something I could potentially forgive you for, not for blowing up a whole churchful of people whose only crime was to try to make peace instead of stabbing templars in the throat."

"Damn you, writers!" exclaims Anders, and then Sebastian mans up and plugs him with an arrow instead of whining at Hawke to do it or stamping off in a huff.

No wait, that didn't actually happen, did it...


 

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I couldn't stand James Vega in Mass Effect 3. He was just another meathead marine with no personality.
 

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spartandude said:
My most hated Bioware companion is Mission Vao, you know. As you probably know shes just so naive and incompetent, you know. It also doesn't help, you know, that she is also so god damn arrogant about her hacking skills, you know. But what i hate about her most is her speech, you know. There are only so many times a person can say "you know" in one conversation before i want to throw them out of the airlock, into the sun while force lightening them to death.... you know.
I think you have her confused with Kaidan, you know. Compare the number of times Mission says you know, you know, to the number of times Kaidan says it. And the thing is I'm not even sure if it was in his script. If you look up an interview with Rafael Sbarge you will find him being just as annoying as the characters he is portraying. You know. :p

About Mission, yeah I suppose she is a bit immature but I don't really hate her. When I played KOTOR the first time I was her age and maybe for that reason liked her.
 

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sumanoskae said:
EDIT: Quick question; Varric is apparently a very popular companion among the fans, but I've never found him to be particularly appealing. Anyone feel like explaining why he's so great?
Primarily it's because he's the only consistently funny character in DA:2. By which i mean not only are the jokes funny, but they're different jokes. He calls his brother a son of a ***** and then apologizes to his mother, he compares a business to a puppy because "take your eye off of it for one second, and it'll shit all over your floor". In addition, since he's the storyteller, he gets more characterization than, say, Merrill.

I prompted a friend for her opinion, and she thinks it's because he bucks stereotypes about both bards and dwarves. Also, he uses a repeating crossbow (said to be the only repeating crossbow) in a world that primarily uses bows for ranged weaponry.

And, this scene. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbdlIKGH2yc]

EDIT: One other thing: He's the only party member who's with you no matter what you do or what happens. And this is communicated to the player very early: he's the storyteller, so he had to be there the whole time.
 

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ME1 - I guess the prize of the weakest squad member at that point in the story arch goes to Kaiden, he wasn't particularly interesting enough for me to care as much and the conversations were bland. He was almost a generic NPC if you think about it, slightly more than say XO Pressley, and playable in missions.

The rest seemed to fit the narrative. Its extreemly hard not to get into spoilers but the confrontation that builds between Liara and Ashley gave it an extra boost...but either choice becomes irrelevant as to how ME2 was set up.


ME2 - I am also going to have to vote for Jacob. He was very much the weakest link of the group, less of a character, and out right card-board cutout. I didn't use Miranda for much either or Samara but at the point where I got Samara, there was already too many characters to choose from and stuck with a combination of Garrus and Zaheed or Garrus/Grunt. I am more of a soilder/fighter style in the ME games so I go weapons hot. I don't think I ever used Tali and the rest for the exception of loyalty missions and story.

ME3 - Dianne Allers ( Why the @#$#@$ was she even there?), I suppose you are stuck with whom you can use for the most part since the rest of a good characters are mere cameos. I think I will stop right there before I revive an ME3 dead horse. Vega was ok... I mean Marine grunt. Not much there but your average alliance add-on. I'm afraid Miss Ashley... didn't quite make it... and neither does Kaiden in my story so...


DA1 - You know, I think I liked all of the characters in DA1. Loved the writing, personalities, and the roles they played.

DA2 - Going with Merril, Sebastion, Fenris, and Anderson. Isabella too. All of these characters didn't sit well with me but then I wasn't too much of a fan of DA2 though I did a few play throughs. The action scenes weren't too bad.

I think the bard Varrick is everyone's favorite because he was the best written. You can tell the quality of his character vs the others, it had lore, humor, witty speech, and a well rounded chaotic/neutral aura around him.

Anders and Fenris were spoilled by their mage zelotry just as Sebastion was spoiled by his Chantry zealotry.
 

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My, there is so much cynicism, mean-spiritedness, name-calling here and many of the justifications are ill-founded. How unfortunate. We should not be so bitter and filled with hatred. Hatred is such a worthless emotion.

I did try coming with an answer to this thread. The closest answer I could reach is the SW:TOR Trooper companion Tanno Vik. He fills his archetype well enough but he does not receive much character development and I feel his personality contrasts that of the other Trooper companions. Perhaps the only ways for him to fit into that story without causing such dissonance were if the player role-played their Trooper to have at least a few similar character traits.
 
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The one that came to mind for me was Skadge, the Bounty Hunter's melee tank from SW:TOR. I played my hunter on the light side, more an honorable Mandalorian Warrior than a simple hired gun and Skadge was pretty much my complete opposite. The guy was a brutal, remorseless, psycho even before getting shipped the the toughest prison in the galaxy. I just stuck with Blizz (a Jawa with a rocket launcher!!) as my go to tank with Torian and Mako as my other main companions.