I fail to see where only a happy ending can be a good ending. It doesn't need to be sunshine and daisies to be satisfactory. It was a gritty ending grounded in reality. It was never trying to make you feel good. Try telling a fan of Oldboy that the ending sucked, see what kind of look you'll get.
Not to mention it was pretty much the same ending as a the book.
I didn't say happy. I said satisfactory. You can have a sad ending that still satisfies the audience. You can have a happy ending that leaves the audience feeling unsatisfied.
I never saw Oldboy. I'm talking about this movie, not once did I mention Oldboy.
Now, following the book, that's fine, whatever. Maybe the book presented it better. I don't know. But I'm not talking about that either, so that also doesn't matter.
fuck that game for ripping out my heart and stomping on while sadistically yelling at me and telling my all my hopes and dreams are doomed to fail while punhing me in the face and making me cry
Was a decent action/thriller movie until the very end when it wraps up the plot in about 3 minutes then puts in some philosophical bullshit in order to justify it.
In the book, the "philosophical bullshit" is much more closely woven into the narrative than it was in the movie. In the film it's mostly thrown in as an afterthought, but in the book it's really the focus of the whole thing (rather than the focus being on the action).
I fail to see where only a happy ending can be a good ending. It doesn't need to be sunshine and daisies to be satisfactory. It was a gritty ending grounded in reality. It was never trying to make you feel good. Try telling a fan of Oldboy that the ending sucked, see what kind of look you'll get.
Not to mention it was pretty much the same ending as a the book.
I didn't say happy. I said satisfactory. You can have a sad ending that still satisfies the audience. You can have a happy ending that leaves the audience feeling unsatisfied.
I never saw Oldboy. I'm talking about this movie, not once did I mention Oldboy.
Now, following the book, that's fine, whatever. Maybe the book presented it better. I don't know. But I'm not talking about that either, so that also doesn't matter.
What has been the most dissapointing ending toa game/book/film to you? For me:
Game: Final Fantasy X-
I like FF games for the story. Everything else is a bonus. Say what you like about it I do not care but I loved X until the end. I like cleché happy endings. Luckly X-2 fixed it. Just a shame the rest of it was shit.
Movie: The Matrix Revolutions.
Neo is Jesus. They should have just ended the movie with Keanu Reeves giving the screen the middle finger and him shouting Fuck you at the viewers.
Book: I cannot think of a book I read that had a bad ending but I hated the ending to the last Codex Alera book, First Lord's Fury for one reason. It was the last in the series. And it was soooo good that I wanted more.
Edit: Fixed spoilers so people will not ***** about me revealing the ending to a 12 year old game and a 10 year old movie.
I actually really liked FFX's ending. Showed SE really had some balls to have such a depressing ending. Of course they pussyed out with X-2 and brought Tidus back.
I fail to see where only a happy ending can be a good ending. It doesn't need to be sunshine and daisies to be satisfactory. It was a gritty ending grounded in reality. It was never trying to make you feel good. Try telling a fan of Oldboy that the ending sucked, see what kind of look you'll get.
Not to mention it was pretty much the same ending as a the book.
I didn't say happy. I said satisfactory. You can have a sad ending that still satisfies the audience. You can have a happy ending that leaves the audience feeling unsatisfied.
I never saw Oldboy. I'm talking about this movie, not once did I mention Oldboy.
Now, following the book, that's fine, whatever. Maybe the book presented it better. I don't know. But I'm not talking about that either, so that also doesn't matter.
Than I'm confused as to why it seems unappealing to you. I guess if you were bummed out about it's presentation, that's understandable, but the way it did present the ending was why it was so haunting to me. The cinematography, the closing dialogue, the way they left the wife's death a cliffhanger. It was all so straightforward with no restrictions. It was vicious. It was evil. It was unsettling. Hell, it even explained the title in the closing monologue.
By the way you're leading it on, I can only see a "satisfying" ending to you as being the good guys win. It would have been acceptable, but without the main character dying, there wouldn't have been that message and overall theme of the darkness of man to close it out. In a way, the story would have meant nothing without it. Just another action movie.
And I'm aware you never mentioned Oldboy. I was merely using that as an example, as they are sort of related here.
Did anyone say Final Fantasy VII, yet? Cause if not, you've got to be joking as it's arguably even worse than the depressingly unsatisfying ending of Final Fantasy X because it -
doesn't even HAVE a fucking ending. "Oh no, here comes Meteor, will Holy save us? Oh no, Holy is attacking Humanity, what will happen? *400 Years Later* Hey look, Nanaki/Red XIII is running along with his kids, awww... wait what? WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?!"
And all because the two guys who made the game either can't finish a story to save their lives or they ALWAYS had intended to go back and financially milk the cow ala Star Wars and LucasArts. What happened to the days when we had epic endings like Final Fantasy VI, that were like half an hour long? THAT was a satisfying ending. Mind you, there's a lot of things about FFVII (and the guys who made it) that tend to piss me off for a number of reasons, but that's unrelated to the topic at hand.
Next up..
While not the worst ending ever, I'd also say that the ending of Spirited Away was entirely unexpected for a Miyazaki film and extremely brief. It was like they'd run out of ideas or time to make a better ending.
And the idea that the girl and the boy had known each other previously and the one encounter is why he was so bent on helping her and... and what? Where were they going with this? It didn't even really pan out besides helping him remember who he was, at which point he seemed to vanish from the rest of the movie.
And finally...
Ocarina of Time, oh my gods, what the HELL is this? How can anyone actually justify the way this game ended, especially seeing how much better they handled Majora's Mask's ending, the ending of every Zelda game afterwards, even the ending of Link's Awakening, the Oracle games, and Link to the Past had a more satisfying ending.
Okay so we beat Ganondorf, Zelda sends Link back, that's fine.. they agree to do something to stop Ganondorf cause... they suddenly have proof that he's plotting something? Despite the fact her father didn't listen to her previously? That they're children and Ganondorf seemed fully capable of taking everyone there out BEFORE he had the Triforce, so what good is it going to do to alert the king since there's really nothing he'd be able to do.
Oh yeah, and dancing. Gods.. why the dancing?! I'm sorry, but even if the ending hadn't been a mishmash of unexplained crap, WHY did they have EVERYONE dancing on the field? Zora King, Forest Sprites, everyone you'd ever met that was remotely important.. all dancing.. stupidly.
I don't have any idea why they thought that'd be acceptable. Even Mario 64 and Starfox 64 had more competent endings. Certainly nothing character breaking or that raised a ton of questions.
EDIT: Cause someone brought it up... I prefer happy endings cause I have enough to be depressed about just reading the news, paying the bills, etc. I don't need downer endings, Gainax endings, and "we'll have to wait for a sequel that never comes" endings. The later two are just signs of bad writing, but the downer ending.. depending on the ending itself and why it's somewhat sad, it can be a good or a bad downer ending.
The end of Hellboy 2 was rather sad, but it still managed to be a good ending. Pity it also hinted at a sequel we would never get, but it was still a bit of a downer On the other hand you have the Fatal Fury movie, which followed an almost identical plot, also ended in a much more depressing way. That was a bad downer ending.
Then again, I think any movie where they play you along and then "oops, killed the cutie" at the end is a crap movie and not worth my time. I guess it's cause the added depression just tends to piss me off. I don't mind somewhat ambiguous endings that make you think, but when there's nothing to fill in the gaps with it is a lot less appealing. Like what I said about FF7 and OoT.
You spend the entire campaign travelling to this vault that's supposed to have all this amazing treasure inside it.
And what do you find when you finally get there?
Nothing.
Yup. Pissed off me and a friend of mine to no end. We both enjoyed everything up to that point, but we both haven't touched the game since due to the ending. I felt so cheated.
It seems those that adhere to this statement have never played Knights of the Old Republic 2. Fallout 3's slightly weak ending looks like award-winning writing of the highest calibre compared to KotOR 2's drivel.
KotOR 2's ending was bad.
But that was because they ran out of time and had to literally skimp out on the actual ending.
It's not even considered canonical.
Still better than Fallout 3's ending.
I mean, seriously?
A super mutant and a ghoul, both not only able to survive the radiation, they even get healthier by it, and they just arbitrarily refuses, forcing you to die for no good reason. Which is even more of a kick in the balls because there's no warning when you cross the point of no return, so if you save past it, you're going to have to start over from the beginning if you want to keep playing the game.
Bethesda even retconned the ending with DLC later on.
TheKruzdawg said:
Jezzascmezza said:
Borderlands.
You spend the entire campaign travelling to this vault that's supposed to have all this amazing treasure inside it.
And what do you find when you finally get there?
Nothing.
Yup. Pissed off me and a friend of mine to no end. We both enjoyed everything up to that point, but we both haven't touched the game since due to the ending. I felt so cheated.
Well, it contains a monster that gives a metric fuckton of XP and has a fairly high droprate of loot.
Still, nothing compares to Crawmerax.
Holy shit that thing drops loot.
Nikopol, from the Be Mine Bundle, worst adventure game ever.
Seriously, after having to scour through 5 different guides to solve these fucking overly complicated puzzles and stopping an ancient egiptian god from conquering a dystopian, futuristic Paris (of all places in the wide world), all they could think about as a "proper ending" is a fucking monologue about "rotten flesh" and worms!??, WTF!??
I only payed $1 for the whole bundle and I still feel ripped off by this godawful piece of shit. I need to replay Broken Sword to take out this bad taste out of my mouth.
As for other media, Evangelion is the first thing that comes up to mind. Seriously, W T F. Saint Seiya's Hades saga takes an honorable mention, seriously, one single episode to fight against the god of the fucking underworld!??
For movies, I think I can certainly agree with The Departed, although a great movie, it's ending was... meh.
Huh, looks like I'm one of the few people who absolutely loved the ending to FFX...mostly because I wanted to see Tidus die in hellfire, but thats besides the point, anyways...
I know the OP says film/book/game but I feel it deserves to be said, the last 2 episodes of Seinfeld, such a disappointing ending to such a great show. It wasn't very funny, and it was kind of depressing too
First, books. I was incredibly disappointed by the Cirque du Freak series. The author tried to tie every loose plot hole in all thirteen books in the last one hundred pages. "They're secretly brothers! And this guy's their father! Why? Because I'm the author and fuck you." I had the same problem with the Hunger Games books. The twilight books (I read them so I could accurately insult the people that also read them) were very anticlimactic as well. Not to mention everything else was shit.
Next, movies. No Country for Old Men felt like the ending was supposed to be meaningful, but it was too vague and uninteresting to piece together. Gran Torino's ending just felt insulting to Clint Eastwood. He's motherfucking Clint Eastwood! He can't die! What the hell?
Games? I finish every RPG game I play (no matter how shitty it is), and so if the game is crap I don't expect much from the ending. Non-RPG's I don't expect to have good stories, so it's not surprising if the end is poorly done as well.
fuck that game for ripping out my heart and stomping on while sadistically yelling at me and telling my all my hopes and dreams are doomed to fail while punhing me in the face and making me cry
Than I'm confused as to why it seems unappealing to you. I guess if you were bummed out about it's presentation, that's understandable, but the way it did present the ending was why it was so haunting to me. The cinematography, the closing dialogue, the way they left the wife's death a cliffhanger. It was all so straightforward with no restrictions. It was vicious. It was evil. It was unsettling. Hell, it even explained the title in the closing monologue.
By the way you're leading it on, I can only see a "satisfying" ending to you as being the good guys win. It would have been acceptable, but without the main character dying, there wouldn't have been that message and overall theme of the darkness of man to close it out. In a way, the story would have meant nothing without it. Just another action movie.
And I'm aware you never mentioned Oldboy. I was merely using that as an example, as they are sort of related here.
Yes, someone does not agree with your view on a movie ending. They must be close-minded or possibly stupid. Maybe they were too busy with something else to pay attention . They're probably unhappy when any film ends in any way that isn't the standard gingerbread and butterflies ending that is spoonfed to us by the film industry for all these years.
So, you thought it'd be a good idea to read twilight...while in a mental hospital? Because you obviously didn't have enough issues at the time.
In all seriousness? for movies it's gotta be the french film "High Tension" had a pretty bad ending.
we find out the is the murderer, and that she's actually just crazy
Seriously, what the hell?
Books? I hear twilight isn't any better in novel form
Games? Modern warfare 2.
Oh look at that, the guy we've been hunting the entire game got away, but our ally who betrayed us because he wants to be known as the guy who took down the bad guy by himself. Oh, and so, even though he murdered special operation allied forces, and spent million on a PMC to kill them, is somehow still honored as a war hero. Just another reason call of duty is utter shit; in my opinion.
fuck that game for ripping out my heart and stomping on while sadistically yelling at me and telling my all my hopes and dreams are doomed to fail while punhing me in the face and making me cry
[spoiler/] playing as Jack marston after the finale? in regards to that I'll repost what I said before
ahh but thats the even MORE depressing part of it
SPOILERS
Jack marston became just like his father...a lost soul riding aorund gunslinging..its exactally what Jhon and Abagail DIDN'T want
essentially his fathers past..that asshole FBI guy defined who Jack became, John faild in every way possible, and Im pretty sure Jack isnt happy or living up to what could have been [/spoiler]
Seriously, though, likely Crysis. Cliffhanger... FFFFUUUUUUUU. Sequel Comes out, has nothing to do with original game except nanosuits and some aliens that don't even resemble the earlier ones, FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!
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