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IamSofaKingRaw

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Arqus_Zed said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Arqus_Zed said:
Off the top of my head...

- Shadow Hearts: From The New World

- Devil May Cry 2

- Final Fantasy X-2
1) YES
2) HELL YES
3) SO CLOSE... BUT NO.

FFX-2 was a good GAME... just not a good Final Fantasy, and was a sequal to a game that didn't need one.

OT: Metroid Other M. I lost what little respect I had for Team Ninja that day.
I beg to differ, I want to accept that Final Fantasy X-2 had good gameplay (re-imagening of the job-system), but NOT that it was a good game. Why?

- Major rehash of graphics: copy/pasting characters, enemies, areas, etc.
- A terrible, terrible, TERRIBLE story! And this includes the story itself, character development (if any), lame new characters, needlessly screwing around with elements set up in Final Fntasy X and having a wrong Charlie's Angels kind of atmosphere.
- Forgettable music (although many FF-titles seem to suffer from that nowadays...)
- Lame mini-games (they ruined blitzball and that game with the coins wasn't on par with the card games of Final Fantasy VIII or IX).
- No summons. (Okay, this is really subjective, but dammit, I wanted to see new aeons!)

And I'm probably forgetting some other stuff. On the other hand... It's really all just opinions, isn't it? But hey, just wanted to throw that out there.
THe reason I defend it is because

1) It had the best combat of any game in the series. THIS is what 13's combat should have been like.

2) Most importantly, it had a sense of humor as you went through. Too many games at the time, and to this day, are slogs through groups of people seriously trying to destroy some mindless evil, and the most humor we get is a cheap one-liner from the token black guy (FF13, Gears of War). The plot was kind of dumb, but until you got down to the main story, it was funny.

3) 1000 Words and the opening are two of the better entries in the FF music library. The overworld music was terrible, and the combat music forgettable, but those two songs were great.

4) Paine's character development was good. Especially on her final side quest. Yuna and Rikku... not so much.

It was a good game, just not a good FF game.
I've always thought that FFXII had the best combat system. The ATB system but *gasp* you can MOVE!
 

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I think Bisohock 2 was un-needed. It didn't feel new at all, it was just a incredibly long DLC. Oddly, I quite enjoyed DA2 and I'm not entirely sure why people hate it.
 

StrappingYoungLad

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Gears Of War 2-Online is still barely playable this long after release
Bioshock 2-The game itself isnt bad but it isnt anywhere near as good as the first and it didnt need a sequel
 

Arqus_Zed

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Arqus_Zed said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Arqus_Zed said:
Off the top of my head...

- Shadow Hearts: From The New World

- Devil May Cry 2

- Final Fantasy X-2
1) YES
2) HELL YES
3) SO CLOSE... BUT NO.

FFX-2 was a good GAME... just not a good Final Fantasy, and was a sequal to a game that didn't need one.

OT: Metroid Other M. I lost what little respect I had for Team Ninja that day.
I beg to differ, I want to accept that Final Fantasy X-2 had good gameplay (re-imagening of the job-system), but NOT that it was a good game. Why?

- Major rehash of graphics: copy/pasting characters, enemies, areas, etc.
- A terrible, terrible, TERRIBLE story! And this includes the story itself, character development (if any), lame new characters, needlessly screwing around with elements set up in Final Fntasy X and having a wrong Charlie's Angels kind of atmosphere.
- Forgettable music (although many FF-titles seem to suffer from that nowadays...)
- Lame mini-games (they ruined blitzball and that game with the coins wasn't on par with the card games of Final Fantasy VIII or IX).
- No summons. (Okay, this is really subjective, but dammit, I wanted to see new aeons!)

And I'm probably forgetting some other stuff. On the other hand... It's really all just opinions, isn't it? But hey, just wanted to throw that out there.
THe reason I defend it is because

1) It had the best combat of any game in the series. THIS is what 13's combat should have been like.

2) Most importantly, it had a sense of humor as you went through. Too many games at the time, and to this day, are slogs through groups of people seriously trying to destroy some mindless evil, and the most humor we get is a cheap one-liner from the token black guy (FF13, Gears of War). The plot was kind of dumb, but until you got down to the main story, it was funny.

3) 1000 Words and the opening are two of the better entries in the FF music library. The overworld music was terrible, and the combat music forgettable, but those two songs were great.

4) Paine's character development was good. Especially on her final side quest. Yuna and Rikku... not so much.

It was a good game, just not a good FF game.
1) This is what I've always liked about Final Fantasy: they dare to change. Pretty much every FF has its own unique battle system, contrary to so many others who just recycle mechanics throughout an entire series. Sure, sometimes it has flaws (tedious 'drawing' in FF VIII, more watching than playing in FF XIII), but at least they've got the balls to make some change. The FF X-2 battle mechanic? It was good, sometimes a bit unbalanced, but still enjoyable. But the BEST of them all? Well, each his own I suppose...

2) Well, I guess my sense of humor just isn't up to scratch any more. I can't recall a single bit of dialogue that put a smile on my face... If I want to play an RPG that delivers an intriguing plot AND manages to put a grin on my face, I just pop in Shadow Hearts or Shadow Hearts: Covenant.

3) Yeahhhh... Uhm. Not really my kind of music, sorry. Again, each his own, but personally, I'd take 'Hymn of the Fayth' and 'Otherworld' over 1000 Words any day.

4) Hmmm, never really felt Pain (or any of the characters), she seemed like a foreboding of what the Lightening character of FF XIII would bring us. The '***** with a heart of gold'-cliché combined with the 'warrior with a mysterious past'-persona. Generic typecasting, really. Not to mention the whole Den of Woe thing and the fact that she and all leaders of the new factions knew each other. A bit forced if you ask me.

So yeah, I guess it all just boils down to personal taste.
 

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I think there is one most people are forgetting and the game should be forgotten because it ruined the series: Pacman World and the subsequent games after that