Would the industry be better off without Nintendo?

[RadicalDreamer90]

Other then the fact gaming kinda needed Nintendo back in the dark ages to pull them out of a rut, my stance on Nintendo is the same then as it is now. Nintendo may rehash games from each generation, but they help move alot of new ideas that committee driven triple A companies would never even dare try, and a chunk of the time, that shit works. The thing is, with all these leaps of faith that Nintendo does with it's console, aka the Gamecube not using DVD's, the Wii focusing on motion control versus the standard internal upgrades, Nintendo gives alot to the imagination. People thought motion controls were a gimmick, and as if to take up upon themselves as a challenge, not only did they prove it could make entertaining games, they based an entire generation of their work around the principle. If that weren't enough, they got their two competitors to blindly follow 4 years in their footsteps while they took a preemptive lead in the industry.

Nintendo may not go the distance with it's games as far as new IP's, but they surely bring new consoles, and new ways of play to the table more often any company within the industry. Nintendo is like the crazy nutty kid in your group. People outside may tell you to drop him because of how he looks and dumb shit he does occasionally, but inside, he's what keeps the monotony at bay, and you'll certainly regret the time spent without him.

 

[Ranorak]

Funny how nintendo keeps making the same Zelda game over and over, according to most people that never actually play them.
But when sony and Microsoft release the same brown shooter over and over it's alright?

Nintendo might not be shooting out A-titles like some other companies, but I still love me some metroid.
I still want me some Mario. And I'd kill for a openworld, massive 3D pokemon game.

 

[ronald1840]

Hell no!

After these titles I don't see how ANYONE would benefit from Nintendo dying. No more DS, 3DS, Wii, GameCube, or SNES? Kirby, Samus, Luigi, Mario, Zelda, Link, and Pokemon just to name a few?! No ones seriously thinking that this could be positive? As far as Sony and Microsoft are concerned we'd have nothing but shooters/action RPG's/indie games.

I mean come on!...

- Super Mario Galaxy 2

- Super Smash Bros 3

You definately won't find worlds this bright and vibrantly imaginative from Sony/Microsoft who crave 'realism and cinematic quality' so much would you? These seem to be the only guys left who put gameplay and fun > everything else.

 

[veloper]

A Nintendo console is the first introduction into gaming for many kiddies.
Losing Nintendo would harm the future of gaming.

 

[ten.to.ten]

I wouldn't go so far as to want a world without Nintendo, but I'd rather they stuck to handhelds, they've always made amazing handhelds and handheld games whereas their console output has been "mixed" since the N64.

 

[Gibboniser]

Well with café coming out next year, they'll be stepping into the more hardcore gamer arena, with much better hardware to boot.

 

[Maxtro]

Nintendo should just stop making hardware and focus on making games.

As long as the game quality doesn't drop, nobody would miss not having a Wii 3.

 

[Zhukov]

Eh.

I'm going to have to say no.

I only got into games fairly recently, so they have no nostalgia value for me. Plus, I'm really not into their games.

However, I can't deny that they are good at what they do. And a whole lot of people love them for it. So I really don't see the harm in them sticking around.

 

[Azmar]

So I read everything that was on here and I'm very happy to see how much love there is for Nintendo. I believe that competition is needed for great products to be made, so all three of them should stay in the market.
I like my X360 for the arcade games, the shooters, adventure and horror games.
I liked my PS3 but couldn't afford more games on it so I sold it. But still, it's a great console.
I like my Wii too. There are some really awesome games on it.
I love my DS. The library of games on it is amazing.
I also have a potent PC for gaming.

Calling myself a fanboy of Nintendo would be weird because I just love everything that video games have to offer and in the industry itself. If anything, I'm an ATLUS fanboy. Yes I admit it but it still doesn't prevent me from admiring other game companies like Valve, Rare, Nintendo, Capcom, Konami.

There is nothing more stupid than siding with one console and saying the others are shit. Console wars is the most stupidest thing ever, and clearly proves a lack of knowledge from the person.

I can't wait to hear more of Project Cafe
I can't wait to see what Sony and Microsoft does afterwards.
Also, the idea of SEGA coming back is fascinating, even if it might never happen. (Who knows?)

 

[mjc0961]

sega could come back...

Eh. The only reason I would welcome that is because Sonic would go back to being exclusive and I wouldn't have to see ads for his games and poorly "upgraded" Dreamcast games plastered all over my 360 and PS3 user interfaces (Hey SEGA. Don't tell me you updated Crazy Taxi to have widescreen when all you did is just add an option to stretch the video out. That's not 16:9 widescreen, that's just stretched 4:3 and it looks like shit). But beyond that, SEGA failed multiple times in the hardware department for a reason, and them coming back wouldn't be any better than what we have now. It'd probably be a lot worse though.

Of course, I'm running on the belief that there's nothing wrong with Nintendo right now. I still like them just fine, and as far as what I've played, they themselves can still make a good game. Sure, it might be "another Mario" or "another Zelda" but when the games are that good, I don't see why it should matter. I'd rather take a solid "another Mario" than a buggy mess like New Vegas or some new IP that is so flawed in its idea that you wonder why anyone bothered like Mirror's Edge (HINT: first person platforming has never worked in the past, it didn't work in Mirror's Edge, and it never WILL work in the future. Stop trying).

As for shovelware, that's Nintendo's fault how exactly? There's shovelware on every platform. The companies who make shovelware tend to make the most for the most popular platforms, and which platforms are "winning" this generation? Why, the Wii and DS! So of course companies like Ubisoft are going to pump out piles and piles of cheap crap to try and make a quick buck for those platforms more than others because those platforms have a larger number of owners which means more people who might possibly pick up a copy of their latest piece of shit. And look at last gen; all the shovelware was totally on the GameCube and the PS2 had absolutely none whatsoever, right? Wrong. And speaking of shovelware on popular things, there certainly isn't a slew of shit games on the various app stores (suck it Apple) for smart phones.

Get rid of Nintendo, and the shovelware just goes somewhere else. It doesn't disappear. It will never disappear.

So how is releasing the latest Zelda/Mario/DK/Metroid game any different from the latest CoD/Final Fantasy/Tales of ____/Madden/Guitar Hero/Sonic/etc.? Could some one explain why it's Nintendo that is getting all the hate for it?

Because unlike Final Fantasy (do I need to say anything about 13 and 14?), Call of Duty (cheaters), Guitar Hero/Rock Band (too much milking, too many expensive controllers), Sonic (another one I don't feel I need to say anything about), and more, Nintendo's latest _____ is always of high quality and provides a pretty great experience from start to finish. Except maybe Other M since people are kind of hating on that all over again today, and I don't want them to feel left out.

...Oh, wait. Shit. Now I'm even more confused.

 

[Serving UpSmiles]

Wasn't the gaming industry practicaly i don't know..umm SAVED?! by nintendo in 1983? or did i miss something.

 

[Chelsea O'shea]

my answer to yes on this matter is...shovel-ware,there would be less of it without Nintendo.
that is all.

 

[yanipheonu]

>_> Yeah because all gamers are united in their hatred of the Nintendo. You really shouldn't take Yahtzee that seriously. A lot of the games he hates are loved by many.

NO. The industry is all the better for having Nintendo. They're like that extra element to the industry, trying new and wacky things, and providing new iterations of classic games people love.

OVerall, that first post sounds pretty confused though. XD

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Howevr, there's really no doubt that they've hampered creativity,

Assuming everyone agrees with you, which we don't. Where did you even come to this conclusion though? How does one company making iterations of the same series over and over again, with well reviewed and best-selling games of those series coming out, affect an entire industry?

and now with the rise of shovelware,

Shovelware has been around for ages. Just look at all the crap we got on the PS2 or the NES, if it's popular, there will be crap.

just about every two-bit crap developer has been able to make a quick buck on Nintendo's systems

Well, small, crappy game developers need to make games too. It sucks to have to wade through crap, but they're ALLOWED. If there are good games, there will be crap. And Nintendo has nothing to do with another dev's choice to make crappy game.

- this hurting the base principles of our industry: make good games, or die trying.

??? HOW? I doubt Ninjabread Man is selling as well as Halo 3. if a dev makes a good game people will buy it. What does this even have to do with Nintendo?

With Nintendo out of the industry, suddenly game devs will HAVE to try, or perish. That seems to be what Yahtzee wants.

At this point, I just gave up. Listen, I don't know what you think Nintendo is (some sort of evil game dev corrupting monster??) But they're just a company that makes games and consoles. If people make shovelware for the Wii, Nintendo has nothing to do with it. THey don't have anything to do with making devs less creative, I have no idea how you reached such a conclusion.

 

[drosalion]

nintendo consoles are the only ones that have any sort of innovation and moving gaming as a whole forward, and first party nintendo games are amazing, so i would say the world would be worse off without nintendo.

 

[lord.jeff]

Nintendo should just stop making hardware and focus on making games.

As long as the game quality doesn't drop, nobody would miss not having a Wii 3.

I would miss my Wii, I happen to like playing it a lot.

OT:No we would not be better off and I really don't get this Nintendo is losing it's innovation, they just released two games that I think are very unique "Super Mario Bros. Wii" and "Kirby's Epic Yarn"

 

[Azmar]

thanks for the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt4KG9ib8S4&feature=player_embedded

Everyone interested in Nintendo or has fond memories of the NES should watch it!

 

[Awexsome]

Please... I'd rather see PC gaming wither and die before Nintendo. But that's like saying I'd rather see a nuclear holocaust over a catastrophic meteor hit.

Nintendo may not be the super juggernaut at making THE best games anymore but its consoles have all been very good steps forward for the industry. If not always intended for a lot of people that frequent this website.

With their new rumored console I'm going in with some cautious optimism. I give the touchscreen integration with a controller a good shot at being something Sony and Microsoft pick up on. Think of any game that requires an inventory system... bam. Touchscreen access. I think it sounds awesome.