Would the industry be better off without Nintendo?

Sean951

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I wouldn't call the Kinect innovating so much as renovating, but having never had the opportunity to try it out I can't say much. But from what I have seen, it reminds me more of the Eye Toy on PS2 than anything else.
 

Jared Berg

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gaming is nintendo most of us are nintendo fanboys, even if we may not want to admit it. Gaming would not be better off without nintendo
 

Sean951

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I REALLY don't get how people can look at Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, and Twilight Princess and call them the same game. 3 games had 3 animation styles, 2 faster world travel systems, 5 or so weapons that were exclusive to the game they appeared in, and 3 different, clearly evolving combat systems. Not to mention the back story and what is going on in Hyrule.

I'm not going to go into the others, as I really don't play most of them, nor do I care nearly as much about them.
 

Rudigher

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TIL Nintendo was founded in 1887. A video game industry without Nintendo would be... strange. They literally have always been there.
 

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Nintendo are the ones who change everything.

You wouldn't have an analog stick if it weren't for Nintendo, you wouldn't have rumble, if it weren't for Nintendo. You wouldn't have handhelds, if it weren't for Nintendo.

They are the face of the industry, and are about..six years ahead of the game on everything they make.

So, no, the industry would be nothing but FPS's and sequels, and same old boring everything, it weren't for Nintendo.

and no, I am not a fanboy. I have all three consoles, and a killer computer..in fact I play my Xbox 360, and PS3 WAY more than I play my Wii.

Seems contradictory, I know, but I will say this. Nintendo SCREWED their hardcore players with the Wii.

Doesn't mean they aren't inventive, and vital to the industries survival.
It doesnt occour to anyone what if the guys at Nintendo didnt think of this stuff somone else might have? I mean it wouldnt be exactally the same but yeah....

anyway Im not trying to downplay their contribution tot he industry..they pretty much saved it

I mean its impossible to speculate how things could have been anyway

but I mean industry collapse? ehhhh I dont know

Im not trying to be PC elitist....but I mean PC gaming back at its height was doing pretty well (and might I say head of the pack) without nintendos involvment

I mean console gaming is awsome now, even if PC has taken a backseat (I dont even own a console)

I mean the only real "recent" inovaton on Nintendo was just tapping into the casual market which then encouraged the other big players in the industry to follow suit
 

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Depends if they keep up their current trend of releasing the same game every year and adding annoying gimmicks.
 

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Ever seen the movie Fight Club? There's this quote: "On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone will drop to zero."

Same for companies cuz in the end nothing lasts forever. Nintendo can live on for another 10, 20, 50, maybe even a 100 years....but I bet they won't live on for a 1000, 10.000, 100.000 years. Same with Sony...same with Microsoft. They haven't been around forever...and they won't be around forever.

Hell...in a 1000 years time we'll prolly have a holodeck/ the Matrix or something completely different.
 

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No Nintendo equals no new legend of zelda games or for that matter no new paper mario games(super looking forward to 3DS game) and that makes me a sad panda
 

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Without Nintendo eh?

Yeh. I think it would be. Wii was too much and it repeats the same games with same characters far too often for me. I'd understand if Mario carried on because he's like their diety or something a gaming mascot in a way but we have everrrything else trying to tah along aswell and it's embarrissing and messy now.
Nintendo WAS good. and brought us years of Gaming magic. But now.... Pft! I have no love for its repeats and bad ideas.
 

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QuickKick89 said:
Many of Yahtzee's recent reviews (including his one about the 3DS) seem to have one clear message - Nintendo, we gamers no longer like you, and the industry would be better off without you. But would it?

Nintendo brings in tons of revenue for the industry, and has been one of the most influential game companies of all time, if not the most influential. Howevr, there's really no doubt that they've hampered creativity, and now with the rise of shovelware, just about every two-bit crap developer has been able to make a quick buck on Nintendo's systems - this hurting the base principles of our industry: make good games, or die trying.

With Nintendo out of the industry, suddenly game devs will HAVE to try, or perish. That seems to be what Yahtzee wants.
no, nintendo is keeping the industry alive. they are like a stepping stone to get younger generations into video games. say youre a 3rd grade kid. whats going to appeal to you more and whats going to just scare you off, mario or master chief? i dont think his message is for nintendo to go away. i think his message is for nintendo to step their game up. they have gotten lazy and sloppy and need to make changes
 

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But WoW made MMORPGs actually popular without completely losing difficulty! True it also caters to pretty much everyone else, but I think a lot of companies would benefit from the strategy of, "appeal to the common denominator, but offer a higher difficulty in the form of changed mechanics to entice the "hardcore" fans."
 

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No Nintendo? No Metroid? No Zelda? No Mario? Such a world would be a tragic place indeed. Yahtzee doesn't speak for all of us, his opinions are exaggerated for comedic purposes and anyway isn't he a Mario and Zelda fan? Nintendo is a fantastic company and one of very few who make light-hearted fun games rather than grim and gritty nonsense.

jackpipsam said:
No, the only thing I think needs to go for the better of the gaming industry is wow
As a Blizzard fanboy I disagree. As a Starcraft fanboy I agree if only so they'll work harder and faster on Heart of the Swarm. ;)
 

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Nintendo are a big powerful successful games company. The fact that they've outlived most of the older generations of game companies is a testament to that success.
They're successful because they're good at what they do, and by being good they keep the market competitive, and without competition you get stagnation, which no gamer surely wants as it would just lead to (even more) mediocre games.

I'd consider myself a big fan of Nintendo, but I wouldn't want any of their competitors to disappear (at least without being replaced by another competitor) Whatever major games company you prefer, be it Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo, you should always want them to have "enemies", because its makes them better at what they do
 

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QuickKick89 said:
Many of Yahtzee's recent reviews (including his one about the 3DS) seem to have one clear message - Nintendo, we gamers no longer like you, and the industry would be better off without you. But would it?
I hate to break it to you but Yahtzee isn't an all-knowing god, he's just some guy who makes funny video reviews. Hell, how many positive reviews has he actually done? I can only think of 3 or so, this guy rags of everything, the more popular it is, the more likely his opinion is to be negative.

Nintendo is for some, and isn't for others. Whether you personally like it or not though, it is a core part of the gaming industry and for us consumers it definitely is a boon, as more competetion between console makers means that they have to work had to keep us as consumers! It will truly be a sad day for consumers if one day there ends up being only one console left on the market.
 

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What would we do when our 360's red ring and our ps3's stop reading discs? Say what you want about Nintendo, they at least make a product that outlasts its own warranty by a matter of years and not days.
like dell pc's those also never die. but it doesnt mean the hardware is worth it.
rocks also outlive their waranty. but you cant play good games with then unless you called ug and live 65 milion years ago.
the reason the 360 keeps frying itsself is because it just gets to hot, causing internal resistances, making the the rip itsself apart from the inside. admittingly, this happens less with the new 360's, but it still happens, yes.
Acutally I always have considered durability an important part of any electronic product I buy. Speed and power have their place, but if the speedy and powerful machine lasts a tenth of the product life of the slightly slower one, I'll go with the slower product. But my like of Nintendo durability goes to the fact that I have owned every single platform they have released. And the first one I bought of each Nintendo generation still works. With the exception of my still working Dreamcast (props to Sega) no other consoles can claim that. I've had to buy multiple ps's, ps2's, xbox's, 360's, genesis', and so on. But, 22 years in to buying Nintendo products and the first is the only one needed of each gen. Everything else, (except Dreamcast) shoddy trash.