Would the industry be better off without Nintendo?

[Pearwood]

No Nintendo? No Metroid? No Zelda? No Mario? Such a world would be a tragic place indeed. Yahtzee doesn't speak for all of us, his opinions are exaggerated for comedic purposes and anyway isn't he a Mario and Zelda fan? Nintendo is a fantastic company and one of very few who make light-hearted fun games rather than grim and gritty nonsense.

No, the only thing I think needs to go for the better of the gaming industry is wow

As a Blizzard fanboy I disagree. As a Starcraft fanboy I agree if only so they'll work harder and faster on Heart of the Swarm.

 

[Hawkmoon269]

Nintendo are a big powerful successful games company. The fact that they've outlived most of the older generations of game companies is a testament to that success.
They're successful because they're good at what they do, and by being good they keep the market competitive, and without competition you get stagnation, which no gamer surely wants as it would just lead to (even more) mediocre games.

I'd consider myself a big fan of Nintendo, but I wouldn't want any of their competitors to disappear (at least without being replaced by another competitor) Whatever major games company you prefer, be it Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo, you should always want them to have "enemies", because its makes them better at what they do

 

[JoJo]

Many of Yahtzee's recent reviews (including his one about the 3DS) seem to have one clear message - Nintendo, we gamers no longer like you, and the industry would be better off without you. But would it?

I hate to break it to you but Yahtzee isn't an all-knowing god, he's just some guy who makes funny video reviews. Hell, how many positive reviews has he actually done? I can only think of 3 or so, this guy rags of everything, the more popular it is, the more likely his opinion is to be negative.

Nintendo is for some, and isn't for others. Whether you personally like it or not though, it is a core part of the gaming industry and for us consumers it definitely is a boon, as more competetion between console makers means that they have to work had to keep us as consumers! It will truly be a sad day for consumers if one day there ends up being only one console left on the market.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

I haven't been a fan in years, but how would the industry be better off?

 

[Kyrian007]

What would we do when our 360's red ring and our ps3's stop reading discs? Say what you want about Nintendo, they at least make a product that outlasts its own warranty by a matter of years and not days.

like dell pc's those also never die. but it doesnt mean the hardware is worth it.
rocks also outlive their waranty. but you cant play good games with then unless you called ug and live 65 milion years ago.
the reason the 360 keeps frying itsself is because it just gets to hot, causing internal resistances, making the the rip itsself apart from the inside. admittingly, this happens less with the new 360's, but it still happens, yes.

Acutally I always have considered durability an important part of any electronic product I buy. Speed and power have their place, but if the speedy and powerful machine lasts a tenth of the product life of the slightly slower one, I'll go with the slower product. But my like of Nintendo durability goes to the fact that I have owned every single platform they have released. And the first one I bought of each Nintendo generation still works. With the exception of my still working Dreamcast (props to Sega) no other consoles can claim that. I've had to buy multiple ps's, ps2's, xbox's, 360's, genesis', and so on. But, 22 years in to buying Nintendo products and the first is the only one needed of each gen. Everything else, (except Dreamcast) shoddy trash.

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

The company that is still making unique games in a sea of brown shooters?
The company that still values gameplay and fun in most of their games over photorealism, 100 cutscenes and "deep stories"?
The company that didn't jump on the "Achievement" and "DLC" bandwagon and has actual things to "achieve" in their games?
The company that still tries to innovate technologically (even if it fails at times)?
The company that lets about anyone develop for their platform without acting like a controlling regime? (which might also lead to shovelware...)

No...

Listen to this Man! He speaks the "truth"!

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(This took a LOT of effort to make so please: be mad, bro?)

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

The company that is still making unique games in a sea of brown shooters?
The company that still values gameplay and fun in most of their games over photorealism, 100 cutscenes and "deep stories"?
The company that didn't jump on the "Achievement" and "DLC" bandwagon and has actual things to "achieve" in their games?
The company that still tries to innovate technologically (even if it fails at times)?
The company that lets about anyone develop for their platform without acting like a controlling regime? (which might also lead to shovelware...)

No...

Listen to this Man! He speaks the "truth"!

Nintendo is the ONLY company [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_Corporation] on Earth making anything [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_%28video_game%29] other [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_%28video_game%29] than Brown [http://gamerlimit.com/files/2010/06/Enslaved-Odyssey-to-the-West.jpg] Shooters [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rez]!
Nintendo is the Only company that hasn't gotten lost in this Silly fad called "Deep stories" [http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/Princess%20is%20in%20another%20castle.jpg].
Instead it chooses to make unique [http://www.destructoid.com/ocarina-of-time-3ds-much-closer-to-original-vision-198643.phtml] gameplay with every [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_mario] game!
Nintendo is the Only company that develops innovative [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/109144-Man-Uses-Kinect-to-Play-Minecraft-in-Minecraft], Groundbreaking [http://static.emulator-zone.com/gallery/emulators/virtualboy/virtualboy.jpg] technologies!
Nintendo Let's Anyone [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/108581-Nintendo-Praises-Independents-Devalues-Garage-Developers] Develop games for their platform and that is something that no [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comics/critical-miss/8766-Critical-Miss-Nintendo-vs-Rovio] other [http://www.newgrounds.com/] platform [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_Live_Arcade] supports!

Nintendo FOREVER!! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1zZAyLemrI]

(This took a LOT of effort to make so please: be mad, bro?)

I would have used this: on the last part. Other than that, good post. You had a plethora of links to all kinds of games.

 

[Vault101]

The company that is still making unique games in a sea of brown shooters?
The company that still values gameplay and fun in most of their games over photorealism, 100 cutscenes and "deep stories"?
The company that didn't jump on the "Achievement" and "DLC" bandwagon and has actual things to "achieve" in their games?
The company that still tries to innovate technologically (even if it fails at times)?
The company that lets about anyone develop for their platform without acting like a controlling regime? (which might also lead to shovelware...)

No...

Listen to this Man! He speaks the "truth"!

Nintendo is the ONLY company [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_Corporation] on Earth making anything [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_%28video_game%29] other [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_%28video_game%29] than Brown [http://gamerlimit.com/files/2010/06/Enslaved-Odyssey-to-the-West.jpg] Shooters [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rez]!
Nintendo is the Only company that hasn't gotten lost in this Silly fad called "Deep stories" [http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/Princess%20is%20in%20another%20castle.jpg].
Instead it chooses to make unique [http://www.destructoid.com/ocarina-of-time-3ds-much-closer-to-original-vision-198643.phtml] gameplay with every [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_mario] game!
Nintendo is the Only company that develops innovative [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/109144-Man-Uses-Kinect-to-Play-Minecraft-in-Minecraft], Groundbreaking [http://static.emulator-zone.com/gallery/emulators/virtualboy/virtualboy.jpg] technologies!
Nintendo Let's Anyone [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/108581-Nintendo-Praises-Independents-Devalues-Garage-Developers] Develop games for their platform and that is something that no [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comics/critical-miss/8766-Critical-Miss-Nintendo-vs-Rovio] other [http://www.newgrounds.com/] platform [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_Live_Arcade] supports!

Nintendo FOREVER!! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1zZAyLemrI]

(This took a LOT of effort to make so please: be mad, bro?)

you deserve a round of applause for your hard work *appluse*

I mean It completley baffles me this Idea that if its not nintendo its Brown shooters...

also mabye (as I said here before) I find a brown shooter is more interesting than Marios dysfunctional relationship with peach...just saying

 

[Hyper-space]

Nintendo has hampered creativity...

WTF is this nonsense?

Most of the new games for the 3DS are ports, and well, lots of the newer nintendo games are just rehashes and ports of older games. Funny thing is, gamers continue to worship them and buy their rehashes.

And people are surprised that the industry churns out sequels like crazy....

 

[zxvcasdfqwerzxcv]

I would love Nintendo to go the way of Sega; stop making consoles, stick to making games. I think if Nintendo were only making games on Xbox360 and PS3 on their non 3d non motion control areas, it would bring back the amazing creative side of the company.

RIght now I think their formats are holding them back more than anything else.

 

[Fawcks]

I don't really give a crap about Nintendo anymore... But they need to start appealing to their original base again.

Seriously, look at the 3DS lineup... Every single good game there is a port. We need something new, Nintendo. You're not satisfying the hardcore base that brought you here with maybe 1 hardcore title a year.

The last game I bought for my Wii was freaking Super Smash Brothers Brawl. WHAT ELSE IS THERE, NINTENDO?

 

[Chased]

The company that is still making unique games in a sea of brown shooters?
The company that still values gameplay and fun in most of their games over photorealism, 100 cutscenes and "deep stories"?
The company that didn't jump on the "Achievement" and "DLC" bandwagon and has actual things to "achieve" in their games?
The company that still tries to innovate technologically (even if it fails at times)?
The company that lets about anyone develop for their platform without acting like a controlling regime? (which might also lead to shovelware...)

No...

Sir, I love your post. I'm gonna print it out and keep it in my pocket.


I did get fed up with Nintendo for a while, but I've been looking on them more favorably lately. The DS has a great library. The Wii does too, it's just weak in the shooter department. And weak in the ugly brown and grey games department. And I could not care less about either of those types of games.

Agreed, I have much more respect for a company that tries to do something differently and fails as opposed to just churning out the same game over and over again with more polish.

Don't get me wrong, Nintendo does reprint games like nobodies business (Mario, Zelda), but they at least try to switch it up every once in a while like the motion controls in the Wii, the 3DS and now the supposed touch screen controllers in Project Cafe.

 

[CAPTCHA]

The company that is still making unique games in a sea of brown shooters?
The company that still values gameplay and fun in most of their games over photorealism, 100 cutscenes and "deep stories"?
The company that didn't jump on the "Achievement" and "DLC" bandwagon and has actual things to "achieve" in their games?
The company that still tries to innovate technologically (even if it fails at times)?
The company that lets about anyone develop for their platform without acting like a controlling regime? (which might also lead to shovelware...)

No...

1: True their games were unique in their time and a Nintendo game does have a special sort of quality to it, but now they just recycle those ideas over and over.

2&3: Their games are very replayable because of this, but that's not always a good thing. Sometimes you want the story and cinematics, so I wouldn't put this as a point in their favor.

4: Their innovation has always been in the interest of market control though. They create devices that require developers to go through Nintendo if they want to release. Think carts, then special Nintendo only sized disks, motion controls and 3D (speculation here, but I would imagine that any company developing for Nintendo upon the release of the Wii would have had to licence a Nintendo developers kit from the company and is probably tue for the 3D as well).

5: This couldn't be less true. Take a look at a nintendo product. Every one has a Nintendo gold stamp on it because the company has the final say in who gets to develop for their consoles.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

The are pretty much the best innovators in the industry I think we would have a lot less fun without them.

I'm mostly a PC gamer but I still own a DS. <3 My nephew has my Wii atm, sneaky thief child.

There was a complete power cut in my neighborhood the other night, completely pitch black. So I calmly reached forward flipped open my DS and started playing Dragon Quest 9. Pro.

 

[Veldt Falsetto]

Unless we had another company to jump in and try and do things to revolutionise gaming then no, if Nintendo went, we'd just be getting more and more expensive games each gen and they'd all be exactly the same, we wouldn't have anyone trying anything different or new.

Hardware-wise Nintendo are the ONLY company still making hardware that actually try new and risky things.

 

[Plurralbles]

Nintendo has hampered creativity...

WTF is this nonsense?

Most of the new games for the 3DS are ports, and well, lots of the newer nintendo games are just rehashes and ports of older games. Funny thing is, gamers continue to worship them and buy their rehashes.

And people are surprised that the industry churns out sequels like crazy....

Seems like it's an industry wide phenomena then so one could get their head out of their ass and yell at the entire industry- or at least all hte major publishers and scream a similar thing.

 

[Hyper-space]

Nintendo has hampered creativity...

WTF is this nonsense?

Most of the new games for the 3DS are ports, and well, lots of the newer nintendo games are just rehashes and ports of older games. Funny thing is, gamers continue to worship them and buy their rehashes.

And people are surprised that the industry churns out sequels like crazy....

Seems like it's an industry wide phenomena then so one could get their head out of their ass and yell at the entire industry- or at least all hte major publishers and scream a similar thing.

I seriously think if Nintendo were to stop with the rehashes and endless of ports, the phenomena would loose steam (maybe not go away complete, but still), because remember: Nintendo is the one making butt-loads of money right now, so naturally publishers try to imitate them.

 

[Noctrine]

I can't imagine the benefit of removing any major competitor that actively contributes to the industry.

As far as the "They keep reusing concepts" issue, consider this. Maybe the games aren't intended for you any more? Mario, Zelda, etc, etc were more than likely some of the first games you played. Why shouldn't future generations get a chance at playing those games, as graphics progress it will become increasingly hard to get kids to play older games, but the characters and concepts are as attractive to young kids as they were to you at one time.

Releasing new games using their existing IP allows them to be the gateway game for future generations of gamers.

(I for one know that when I played A Link to the Past when I was 4 or 5 I wasn't thinking about the previous Zelda games or how overdone the storyline was. Just that I was having fun. I don't imagine kids have changed that much since then. I know my little cousin and I enjoyed the co-op on New Super Mario Bros Wii)

 

[SilverVirage]

No, not at all. My only problem with them is their 3rd party support, but if they change that, and start making more things that aren't only for children, then I'd have no problem at all. But my problems with them now aren't great enough to say to get rid of them.

 

[Sean951]

So how is releasing the latest Zelda/Mario/DK/Metroid game any different from the latest CoD/Final Fantasy/Tales of ____/Madden/Guitar Hero/Sonic/etc.? Could some one explain why it's Nintendo that is getting all the hate for it?