Would you like the next Elder Scrolls game to focus on Elsewyr or Black Marsh?

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SajuukKhar

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Kyber said:
I actually wasn't, I genuinely remember reading that, before Skyrim was even announced, when I was getting into the whole lore thing and was reading about all the parts of Tamriel and all the continents and what not, but I do believe your lore knowledge is greater than mine, so thanks for correcting me. Also, no offense, but in my opinion, Elsweyr has a pretty large lore importance, due to the whole ancient civilization, and hundreds of buried cities in the sand.
You were probably confusing northern Skyrim for all of Skyrim then, because even back before Morrowind, Skyrim was described has having "temperate" weather, not Antarctica like.

As for elswyer, what exactly of importance is in those cities? how do they connect to modern events? how does it tie into prophecy? short answer, it doesn't, not saying it couldn't, but as for now, its just ruins that every other province has.
 

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Anyways, if they do contiue on with the "tower" theme, then the only places left are high rock/ Hammerfell, since the Adamantium tower sits on an island between them, and Valenwood.

But since we have already been to high Rock/Hammerfell, and the thalmor's capitol is in Valenwood, I suspect that will be the location of the nex game.

Black Marsh and elswyer have no real........... importance as far as a game setting.
We haven't had a "proper" High Rock/Hammerfell game since Daggerfall wasn't hand-crafted like TES3 4 and 5.

Valenwood game would be good though, and also a Summerset Isles game since they also have a tower (albeit destroyed). But High Rock/Hammerfell means we could finally see Orsinium which would be awesome.
 

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I'd be happy with Black March, Elsewyr, Alinor or Valenwood or even some kind of combination of those regions personally. From what I've read of them they all offer some really interesting visuals and stories to tell. Plus after experiencing two human dominated regions in a row in Skyrim and Obilvion, experiencing first hand some completely alien region again will shake things up nicely.
 

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Stab those dirty Elves! Think they're better than everyone else, the ugly, pointy faced sons of...

Seriously, I'd go out of my way just to piss off Thalmor patrols and instigate them into fighting me, just so I could kill them without getting a bounty put on my head...
damn staight stab them in the face repeatedly!!!
 

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SajuukKhar said:
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I want Akavir...
You most likely wont see Akavir for the same reason you wont see the Aldmeris, Atmora, Cathnoquey, Esroniet, Pyandonea, Roscrea, Thras, Yneslea, or Yokuda. Because it simply isn't important.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mysterious_Akavir
"All Men and Mer know Tamriel is the nexus of creation, where the Last War will happen, where the Gods unmade Lorkhan and left their Adamantine Tower of secrets. Who knows what the Akaviri think of Tamriel, but ask yourself: why have they tried to invade it three times or more?"

All places outside Tamriel are unimportant, and the natives of those lands seek to invade Tamriel because they know Tamriel is the only place that matters.
All true, and yet... the Nerevarine departs Tamriel for Akavir. Why? We don't know but something must be going on there. The dragons have returned, which were once from Akavir but driven out, which is something that can pique the interest of their old foes a continent away. And of course they have invade multiple times, have been invaded by the Empire, and even ruled the Empire at one point. The Akavir might be dormant but to consider it unimportant would be a huge mistake. The Thalmor were not important... until they were. Realistically, I don't think we'll see Akavir anytime soon, I expect one of the Dominion territories will be next. But once the Empire-Thalmor Conflict is settled who knows... would be really neat to see it and the new races it would include.
 

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Dosvidonya said:
SajuukKhar said:
Dosvidonya said:
I want Akavir...
You most likely wont see Akavir for the same reason you wont see the Aldmeris, Atmora, Cathnoquey, Esroniet, Pyandonea, Roscrea, Thras, Yneslea, or Yokuda. Because it simply isn't important.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mysterious_Akavir
"All Men and Mer know Tamriel is the nexus of creation, where the Last War will happen, where the Gods unmade Lorkhan and left their Adamantine Tower of secrets. Who knows what the Akaviri think of Tamriel, but ask yourself: why have they tried to invade it three times or more?"

All places outside Tamriel are unimportant, and the natives of those lands seek to invade Tamriel because they know Tamriel is the only place that matters.
All true, and yet... the Nerevarine departs Tamriel for Akavir. Why? We don't know but something must be going on there. The dragons have returned, which were once from Akavir but driven out, which is something that can pique the interest of their old foes a continent away. And of course they have invade multiple times, have been invaded by the Empire, and even ruled the Empire at one point. The Akavir might be dormant but to consider it unimportant would be a huge mistake. The Thalmor were not important... until they were. Realistically, I don't think we'll see Akavir anytime soon, I expect one of the Dominion territories will be next. But once the Empire-Thalmor Conflict is settled who knows... would be really neat to see it and the new races it would include.
The Nerevarine departed Tamriel so that we wouldn't have him around for lore reasons messing things up ie. walking around in Oblivion and stuff, same reason the Champion becomes Sheogorath really.
 

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endtherapture said:
The Nerevarine departed Tamriel so that we wouldn't have him around for lore reasons messing things up ie. walking around in Oblivion and stuff, same reason the Champion becomes Sheogorath really.
I don't really buy that. It could be true, and I guess I wouldn't be that surprised, but I don't really see how either of those would create issues with the lore. The Nerevarine was in a totally different country and thus it would be totally possible for him/her and the Champion to never interact or cross paths. And the Champion existed hundreds of years before the events of Skyrim so if he/she didn't become Sheogorath he/she would have probably been dead. I actually see his/her becoming Sheogorath as more problematic because the rules for becoming the ruler of the Shivering Isles, or more accurately what happens to said ruler, weren't really that clearly defined. Regardless, I just think it would be neat for them to have a game in Akavir because that would be a truly alien environment.
 

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Dosvidonya said:
endtherapture said:
The Nerevarine departed Tamriel so that we wouldn't have him around for lore reasons messing things up ie. walking around in Oblivion and stuff, same reason the Champion becomes Sheogorath really.
I don't really buy that. It could be true, and I guess I wouldn't be that surprised, but I don't really see how either of those would create issues with the lore. The Nerevarine was in a totally different country and thus it would be totally possible for him/her and the Champion to never interact or cross paths. And the Champion existed hundreds of years before the events of Skyrim so if he/she didn't become Sheogorath he/she would have probably been dead. I actually see his/her becoming Sheogorath as more problematic because the rules for becoming the ruler of the Shivering Isles, or more accurately what happens to said ruler, weren't really that clearly defined. Regardless, I just think it would be neat for them to have a game in Akavir because that would be a truly alien environment.
Well the Nerevarine could essentially be immortal due to his immunity to the Corprus disease...better to just not have him around since he could be any race essentially could cause a lot of problems.

Same with the Champion - he could be a long lived Mer in many cases which would present lots of problems in the lore - why didn't he stand asa player in the interregnum and become the new Emperor - he certainly had the support to do it.

It's literally just to get them out of the way I think. There'll be a similar case for the Dragonborn after Skyrim probably.
 

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I'd like to see the next one all across the Aldmeri Dominion, Summerset Isles, Valenwood and Elsweyr. Mainly because I'd like a chance to bring the fight to the home of the Thalmor.
 

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original_funk said:
I'd like to see the next one all across the Aldmeri Dominion, Summerset Isles, Valenwood and Elsweyr. Mainly because I'd like a chance to bring the fight to the home of the Thalmor.
That would be cool.
However I think that would be far too much work to be reasonably done by Bethesda. My bet is that it will take place in either the most controversial spot, or the place that has the most interesting civil conflict.
Which concludes by the installment after where you see how it all ends in a book somewhere.
 

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Is anyone else afraid Bethesda will have to model any new provinces after the way they are designed in TESO? Sure, landscapes change in a couple of thousand years, but not that much.

Anyway, I don't know if I want any of the remaining provinces, the native species of the game setting being a beast race just feels wrong to me. They should be slaves. Bloody n'wah...
 

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I'm fairly new to the Elder Scrolls, having played Skyrim and just a little bit of Oblivion, so I'm not as familiar with the lore as you guys. But between the two, I'd say Elsewyr. The Argonians were alright, but the traveling/smuggling culture of the Khajit I thought was pretty interesting. Wouldn't mind seeing more of that, getting down and dirty with the smuggling rings, or joining up with a caravan to travel the lands as honest merchants.
 

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roushutsu said:
I'm fairly new to the Elder Scrolls, having played Skyrim and just a little bit of Oblivion, so I'm not as familiar with the lore as you guys. But between the two, I'd say Elsewyr. The Argonians were alright, but the traveling/smuggling culture of the Khajit I thought was pretty interesting. Wouldn't mind seeing more of that, getting down and dirty with the smuggling rings, or joining up with a caravan to travel the lands as honest merchants.
The lore is definitely something to get into, for it makes an expansive world even more huge than it already is. Some of them even do a recap for you of what happened after the previous game installment. (like slavery of the Khajiits and Argonians being abolished shortly after the time in Oblivion

Just...you know...watch out for the classics like Lusty Argonian Maid.
 

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Dosvidonya said:
All true, and yet... the Nerevarine departs Tamriel for Akavir. Why? We don't know but something must be going on there. The dragons have returned, which were once from Akavir but driven out, which is something that can pique the interest of their old foes a continent away. And of course they have invade multiple times, have been invaded by the Empire, and even ruled the Empire at one point. The Akavir might be dormant but to consider it unimportant would be a huge mistake. The Thalmor were not important... until they were. Realistically, I don't think we'll see Akavir anytime soon, I expect one of the Dominion territories will be next. But once the Empire-Thalmor Conflict is settled who knows... would be really neat to see it and the new races it would include.
Does he really though?

See, this is the thing people dont get about TES, what people tell you in conversations is not meant to be taken as truth. The Nerevarine going to Akavir is a RUMOR, just like the RUMOR that Vivec was taken by Daedra. Did the Nerevarine REALLY go to Akavir? The only answer is maybe, if you believe baseless rumors. He is just as likely to have achieved CHIM, and left the mortal realm forever.

Also, The Thalmor didn't even exist until Skyrim, so its hard to be important before one is created.

endtherapture said:
The Nerevarine departed Tamriel so that we wouldn't have him around for lore reasons messing things up ie. walking around in Oblivion and stuff, same reason the Champion becomes Sheogorath really.
Dosvidonya said:
I don't really buy that. It could be true, and I guess I wouldn't be that surprised, but I don't really see how either of those would create issues with the lore.
endtherapture said:
It's literally just to get them out of the way I think. There'll be a similar case for the Dragonborn after Skyrim probably.
Endtherapture is actually right. All the main characters have some BS excuse made for why they vanished so that Bethesda doesn't have to set-in-stone anything about the player-characters, so that every possible character someone makes can be considered to be true.

Dragonbums said:
That would be cool.
However I think that would be far too much work to be reasonably done by Bethesda. My bet is that it will take place in either the most controversial spot, or the place that has the most interesting civil conflict.
Which concludes by the installment after where you see how it all ends in a book somewhere.
Given that the Aldmeri Dominion's capitol is in Valenwood, all they really have to do is make a Valenwood game where you capture Elden Root.